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Cryptocurrency CHIO can destroy an SSD in 40 days
Chia is positioned as an ecological alternative to Bitcoin relative to energy consumption. It's not mining, but farming on your storage solution. Its greener credentials seem questionable. Not only are we starting to see signs of HDD and SSD shortages, but it also greatly shortens the lifespan of these drives.
Chia has the peculiarity that it is not mined using the power of the GPU but rather utilizing the storage device used, where obviously the faster the better performance is obtained. This has already caused a shortage of SSDs and hard drives in Asia, but now other symptoms of their use are beginning to be seen: the durability of SSDs is depleted in just weeks.
While manufacturers are already seeing an increase in sales, some, including Galax, are warning buyers that using their products to grow Chia will void warranties. According to the Chinese site Fast Technology (via Hardware Times ), constantly growing Chia on a 512GB SSD, which typically lasts for five to ten years, can see it lifespan being reduced to just 40 days.
Drives with more storage space last longer, but wear and tear still significantly reduce their lifespan - a 1TB SSD lasts around 80 days, while growing Chia will kill a 2TB SSD in 160 days. Unfortunately, we don't know what NAND writing type is applied though, but assume TLC-based SSDs, as these are the norm.
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#5912828 Posted on: 05/17/2021 02:49 PM
So is the entire economic system that runs the world, though.
All of those coins are a massive financial pyramid with little to no actual values.
So is the entire economic system that runs the world, though.
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#5912834 Posted on: 05/17/2021 03:10 PM
No. der8auer has tested Chia farming and he found that to create a single 100GB plot, the farming program did over 1.3TB of writes (he mentions this at the 6:30 mark in the video below). And he was creating multiple plots per day. Regular consumer SSDs don't have a TBW high enough to deal with that since even 50GB of writes per day is considered high in consumer use cases.
so, the advertised TBW is false? I mean, if some manufacturer advertises 1000 TBW and it dies sooner, the TBW is not true. Or how to understand this.
No. der8auer has tested Chia farming and he found that to create a single 100GB plot, the farming program did over 1.3TB of writes (he mentions this at the 6:30 mark in the video below). And he was creating multiple plots per day. Regular consumer SSDs don't have a TBW high enough to deal with that since even 50GB of writes per day is considered high in consumer use cases.
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#5912840 Posted on: 05/17/2021 03:16 PM
So is the entire economic system that runs the world, though.
No.
No. der8auer has tested Chia farming and he found that to create a single 100GB plot, the farming program did over 1.3TB of writes (he mentions this at the 6:30 mark in the video below). And he was creating multiple plots per day. Regular consumer SSDs don't have a TBW high enough to deal with that since even 50GB of writes per day is considered high in consumer use cases.
What are you talking about? When you buy new SSD, in 1st few days/weeks, you are going to write much more as you bought it with intent to use it. You can't run 800GB of games from SSD unless you write them there 1st. And then those games have updates. Especially if you have newer or actively developed games.
Steam here just downloaded Dreadnought patch (370MB), then it was reading/modifying/writing data for 5 minutes where average write speed was around 150MB/s.
Smart patching makes sense. Reduces patch size, makes games ready faster. Imagine if such patch required raw 40GB+ download. You would be waiting instead of playing.
Today's total DL from steam is just 1.5GB, but actual writes could easily be 60GB. But writes much more here.
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While I/O includes network writes, steam is still by far top at writing data. You can check yours when it is idle. (No active window open = no need to cache web data/game videos/screenshots/...) "I/O write bytes" almost do not change.
So is the entire economic system that runs the world, though.
No.
No. der8auer has tested Chia farming and he found that to create a single 100GB plot, the farming program did over 1.3TB of writes (he mentions this at the 6:30 mark in the video below). And he was creating multiple plots per day. Regular consumer SSDs don't have a TBW high enough to deal with that since even 50GB of writes per day is considered high in consumer use cases.
What are you talking about? When you buy new SSD, in 1st few days/weeks, you are going to write much more as you bought it with intent to use it. You can't run 800GB of games from SSD unless you write them there 1st. And then those games have updates. Especially if you have newer or actively developed games.
Steam here just downloaded Dreadnought patch (370MB), then it was reading/modifying/writing data for 5 minutes where average write speed was around 150MB/s.
Smart patching makes sense. Reduces patch size, makes games ready faster. Imagine if such patch required raw 40GB+ download. You would be waiting instead of playing.
Today's total DL from steam is just 1.5GB, but actual writes could easily be 60GB. But writes much more here.
5407
While I/O includes network writes, steam is still by far top at writing data. You can check yours when it is idle. (No active window open = no need to cache web data/game videos/screenshots/...) "I/O write bytes" almost do not change.
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#5912841 Posted on: 05/17/2021 03:19 PM
Those figures are likely based on predicted single user daily patterns and the drive going through normal internal maintenance routine. THere is nothing normal about Chia farming.
so, the advertised TBW is false? I mean, if some manufacturer advertises 1000 TBW and it dies sooner, the TBW is not true. Or how to understand this.
Those figures are likely based on predicted single user daily patterns and the drive going through normal internal maintenance routine. THere is nothing normal about Chia farming.
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Good. Now hopefully it won't become economically sustainable.