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Guru3D Rig of the Month - December 2019
Cryorig releases Full Copper C7 Cu Heatsink
After nearly a year from first announcing the Cu line of full copper coolers PC cooling innovator CRYORIG is now releasing the C7 Cu copper enhanced SFF ITX cooler. The C7 Cu is built from the C7 architecture with one obvious upgrade, the extravagant use of copper for the whole heatsink body.
By exchanging for a full copper build from aluminum has allowed the C7 Cu see improvements of up to 15% in thermal performance. The increased thermal performance without increased size is a key advantage of the C7 Cu especially in ultra-compact SFF/ITX builds where space is limited.
Aimed at solving the space limits of Small Form Factor ITX systems, the C7 Cu was set with the task of further improving performance but without increasing size or fan speed. Utilizing higher thermal conductive materials was the only answer for the C7 Cu. Copper is nearly twice as thermal conductive as aluminum but nearly three times as expensive. That’s why copper is normally only used on the most thermal critical components such as heatpipes and heatsink base plates. With the C7 Cu, CRYORIG has swapped out the aluminum elements of the C7 with pure copper. Thermal performance gains are close to 15% when compared to the original C7.
Built on the original C7 architecture, users can except to get the same features such as Zero Interference design on both Intel and AMD boards, included installation tool, and pre-installed 92 mm PWM fan with integrated anti-vibration pads aimed for SFF/ITX systems. The 92mm fan features CRYORIG’s Quad Air Intake system, with additional intakes are placed at the four corners of the fan. This allows the fan to pull air from the sides not just from the top, because in most SFF/ITX systems there’s limited space for air intake between the top of the heatsink and the case side panel.
The C7 Cu is set to release in mid to late April in Asia and late May to early June in the USA and Europe. Pricing is set at MSRP 49,95 USD (-tax) in the USA and 49,95 (vat incl.) in Europe.
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C7 Cu Specification |
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Dimensions with Fan |
L97 x W97 x H47 mm |
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Weight (with Fan) |
675 g |
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Weight (without Fan) |
613 g |
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Heatpipes |
4 units 6 mm Copper Heatpipes |
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Fin |
T = 0,4 mm; Gap = 1,2 mm |
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Fin Pcs |
57 pcs |
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Base & Fins |
Pure Copper |
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RAM Height Limit |
Limitless |
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TDP: |
115 W |
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Fan Specification |
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Dimensions (L x W x H) |
92 x 92 x 15 mm |
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Weight |
62 g |
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Rated Speed |
600 ~ 2500 RPM ±10 % |
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Noise Level |
30 dBA |
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Air Flow |
40,5 CFM |
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Air Pressure |
2,8 mmH2O |
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Ampere |
0,2 A |
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#5538740 Posted on: 04/18/2018 02:20 PM
50euro for this piece of crap? Just as badly priced as that poc of a cooler MASTERAIR G100M.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/8bipn5/quick-hands-on-the-cryorig-hu-c7/
Testing a hot chip with an overclock on a cooler meant for an ITX build? It didn't do to bad really considering it's size...
50euro for this piece of crap? Just as badly priced as that poc of a cooler MASTERAIR G100M.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/8bipn5/quick-hands-on-the-cryorig-hu-c7/
Testing a hot chip with an overclock on a cooler meant for an ITX build? It didn't do to bad really considering it's size...
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#5538742 Posted on: 04/18/2018 02:26 PM
The testing was done at 4.3GHz@1.13v. With a delidded 8700K+Conductonaut and graphene coating which supposedly improves temps even if slightly.
Unless I had a brain fart and read/understood that entirely thread over there wrongly. :p
Funny note: I have a stock Intel cooler on my 8700K atm running at 4.2GHz@1.16v with 4GHz cache and 4000C18 ram. I will try and replicate his tests. brb
Edit: 1-2mins in RB 2.44/2.56, my cpu saw 100c for the first(and last) time. lol
Testing a hot chip with an overclock on a cooler meant for an ITX build? It didn't do to bad really considering it's size...
The testing was done at 4.3GHz@1.13v. With a delidded 8700K+Conductonaut and graphene coating which supposedly improves temps even if slightly.
Unless I had a brain fart and read/understood that entirely thread over there wrongly. :p
Funny note: I have a stock Intel cooler on my 8700K atm running at 4.2GHz@1.16v with 4GHz cache and 4000C18 ram. I will try and replicate his tests. brb
Edit: 1-2mins in RB 2.44/2.56, my cpu saw 100c for the first(and last) time. lol
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#5538749 Posted on: 04/18/2018 02:57 PM
TEST Results---->https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html So add 15% to the results and it's still bad. Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
TEST Results---->https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html So add 15% to the results and it's still bad. Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
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#5538752 Posted on: 04/18/2018 03:01 PM
Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
Again it's not a cooler for overclocking with, it's only got a TDP rating of 115W barely enough for a stock 8700k, a little overclock will definitely exceed that.
It's just a cooler for small builds and additionally, just paying for the name more than anything else.
Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
Again it's not a cooler for overclocking with, it's only got a TDP rating of 115W barely enough for a stock 8700k, a little overclock will definitely exceed that.
It's just a cooler for small builds and additionally, just paying for the name more than anything else.
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#5538762 Posted on: 04/18/2018 03:21 PM
Again it's not a cooler for overclocking with, it's only got a TDP rating of 115W barely enough for a stock 8700k, a little overclock will definitely exceed that.
It's just a cooler for small builds and additionally, just paying for the name more than anything else.
Technically a delidded+Conductonaut 8700K running 4.3GHz@1.13v could be considered an underclock. :p
Again it's not a cooler for overclocking with, it's only got a TDP rating of 115W barely enough for a stock 8700k, a little overclock will definitely exceed that.
It's just a cooler for small builds and additionally, just paying for the name more than anything else.
Technically a delidded+Conductonaut 8700K running 4.3GHz@1.13v could be considered an underclock. :p
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#5538781 Posted on: 04/18/2018 04:13 PM
They switched to all copper heatshink, but the heatsink was not problem at first place with original setup- the FAN, that shitty fan. High pitching noise and no air movement.
Utter crap was the original and this one will be no better!
They switched to all copper heatshink, but the heatsink was not problem at first place with original setup- the FAN, that shitty fan. High pitching noise and no air movement.
Utter crap was the original and this one will be no better!
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#5538797 Posted on: 04/18/2018 05:20 PM
methinks its nowhere that simple because:
While due to its better thermal conductivity Copper /gets rid of/soaks/ (works both ways) the heat faster than Aluminum,
Aluminum has higher heat capacity meaning that at the same temperature, it can store more heat than the Copper <-- 3x more
Basically if you are designing a CPU heatsink and you are constrained with its mass, and you are because it has to fit inside the PC case, the ideal design would proly be something like:
a copper contact base, and copper heatpipes to transfer the heat ASAP from the CPU (copper conducts the heat faster than the Al),
aluminum heatsink, so that the excess heat which is not dissipated can sit comfortably inside the heatsink, and at lower temp than if it was Copper heatsink (Al can store more than the Cu)
and what do you know:
Manufacturer: Noctua
Model No.: NH-D15
Material: Copper (base and heat-pipes), aluminium (cooling fins), soldered joints & nickel plating
https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/specification
Aimed at solving the space limits of Small Form Factor ITX systems, the C7 Cu was set with the task of further improving performance but without increasing size or fan speed. Utilizing higher thermal conductive materials was the only answer for the C7 Cu. Copper is nearly twice as thermal conductive as aluminum but nearly three times as expensive. That’s why copper is normally only used on the most thermal critical components such as heatpipes and heatsink base plates.
methinks its nowhere that simple because:
While due to its better thermal conductivity Copper /gets rid of/soaks/ (works both ways) the heat faster than Aluminum,
Aluminum has higher heat capacity meaning that at the same temperature, it can store more heat than the Copper <-- 3x more
Basically if you are designing a CPU heatsink and you are constrained with its mass, and you are because it has to fit inside the PC case, the ideal design would proly be something like:
a copper contact base, and copper heatpipes to transfer the heat ASAP from the CPU (copper conducts the heat faster than the Al),
aluminum heatsink, so that the excess heat which is not dissipated can sit comfortably inside the heatsink, and at lower temp than if it was Copper heatsink (Al can store more than the Cu)
and what do you know:
Manufacturer: Noctua
Model No.: NH-D15
Material: Copper (base and heat-pipes), aluminium (cooling fins), soldered joints & nickel plating
https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/specification
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#5538813 Posted on: 04/18/2018 06:43 PM
The testing was done at 4.3GHz@1.13v. With a delidded 8700K+Conductonaut and graphene coating which supposedly improves temps even if slightly.
Unless I had a brain fart and read/understood that entirely thread over there wrongly. :p
Funny note: I have a stock Intel cooler on my 8700K atm running at 4.2GHz@1.16v with 4GHz cache and 4000C18 ram. I will try and replicate his tests. brb
Edit: 1-2mins in RB 2.44/2.56, my cpu saw 100c for the first(and last) time. lol
The 8700k as with all K models, does not come with "a stock intel cooler" therefore putting a stock cooler on is pointless. Why you would even bother is beyond me. There's a reason they don't sell them with the stock cooler, lmao
Proof in the pudding with your temps, which are 15 beyond that of the Cu C7. Which btw, people seem to not notice, is a very low profile cooler not meant for TDP as high as an 8700. Also to note, again people seem to have selective reading, the tested temps were pretty ok considering his ambient temp compared to his previous tests.
Would I buy it? No, I'm happy with my H7. Not a fan of water cooling and don't see the need, but for a low profile cooler it seems to be just fine.
TEST Results---->https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html So add 15% to the results and it's still bad. Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
Test results look fine to me. Not sure what you're complaining about. Are you being forced to buy one?
The testing was done at 4.3GHz@1.13v. With a delidded 8700K+Conductonaut and graphene coating which supposedly improves temps even if slightly.
Unless I had a brain fart and read/understood that entirely thread over there wrongly. :p
Funny note: I have a stock Intel cooler on my 8700K atm running at 4.2GHz@1.16v with 4GHz cache and 4000C18 ram. I will try and replicate his tests. brb
Edit: 1-2mins in RB 2.44/2.56, my cpu saw 100c for the first(and last) time. lol
The 8700k as with all K models, does not come with "a stock intel cooler" therefore putting a stock cooler on is pointless. Why you would even bother is beyond me. There's a reason they don't sell them with the stock cooler, lmao
Proof in the pudding with your temps, which are 15 beyond that of the Cu C7. Which btw, people seem to not notice, is a very low profile cooler not meant for TDP as high as an 8700. Also to note, again people seem to have selective reading, the tested temps were pretty ok considering his ambient temp compared to his previous tests.
Would I buy it? No, I'm happy with my H7. Not a fan of water cooling and don't see the need, but for a low profile cooler it seems to be just fine.
TEST Results---->https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html So add 15% to the results and it's still bad. Save your money and buy an aio liquid cooler. Stay away from this ineffective and curious fan impersonating a cooler. 40CFM?
Might as well cool your cpu fanning it with a folded up piece of paper.
Test results look fine to me. Not sure what you're complaining about. Are you being forced to buy one?
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#5538820 Posted on: 04/18/2018 07:11 PM
The 8700k as with all K models, does not come with "a stock intel cooler" therefore putting a stock cooler on is pointless.
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Why you would even bother is beyond me. There's a reason they don't sell them with the stock cooler, lmao
Proof in the pudding with your temps, which are 15 beyond that of the Cu C7. Which btw, people seem to not notice, is a very low profile cooler not meant for TDP as high as an 8700. Also to note, again people seem to have selective reading, the tested temps were pretty ok considering his ambient temp compared to his previous tests.
Would I buy it? No, I'm happy with my H7. Not a fan of water cooling and don't see the need, but for a low profile cooler it seems to be just fine.
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Maybe, just maybe... wait for it.. because I drained my wc loop so I can finally transfer everything to a new case/ongoing project? Just saying... I could be lying tho and just love the stock Intel cooler more than the Cryorig one's..
And since ppl obviously jumping into conclusions as usual, the main point was the price, not the cooler. You can look at it in any way you wish, but if you justify that it's worth $/€50, good for you.
P.S: Keep laughing. It's good for the health. Not so much for the @** tho.
The 8700k as with all K models, does not come with "a stock intel cooler" therefore putting a stock cooler on is pointless.
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Why you would even bother is beyond me. There's a reason they don't sell them with the stock cooler, lmao
Proof in the pudding with your temps, which are 15 beyond that of the Cu C7. Which btw, people seem to not notice, is a very low profile cooler not meant for TDP as high as an 8700. Also to note, again people seem to have selective reading, the tested temps were pretty ok considering his ambient temp compared to his previous tests.
Would I buy it? No, I'm happy with my H7. Not a fan of water cooling and don't see the need, but for a low profile cooler it seems to be just fine.
......
Maybe, just maybe... wait for it.. because I drained my wc loop so I can finally transfer everything to a new case/ongoing project? Just saying... I could be lying tho and just love the stock Intel cooler more than the Cryorig one's..
And since ppl obviously jumping into conclusions as usual, the main point was the price, not the cooler. You can look at it in any way you wish, but if you justify that it's worth $/€50, good for you.
P.S: Keep laughing. It's good for the health. Not so much for the @** tho.
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#5538864 Posted on: 04/18/2018 11:04 PM
I read that Silver is 15% better than copper, so why not make solid silver version and charge £100 for it.
I read that Silver is 15% better than copper, so why not make solid silver version and charge £100 for it.
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#5538869 Posted on: 04/18/2018 11:26 PM
You are mixing temperature with thermal output. Deliding only decrease temperature by faster moving heat from cpu core to cooler, but cooler still needs dissipate same ammount of heat.
Technically a delidded+Conductonaut 8700K running 4.3GHz@1.13v could be considered an underclock. :p
You are mixing temperature with thermal output. Deliding only decrease temperature by faster moving heat from cpu core to cooler, but cooler still needs dissipate same ammount of heat.
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#5538969 Posted on: 04/19/2018 12:20 PM
Test results look fine to me. Not sure what you're complaining about. Are you being forced to buy one?
<---------If this is fine for you let me sell you a bridge I own going into New York City 
Test results look fine to me. Not sure what you're complaining about. Are you being forced to buy one?
<---------If this is fine for you let me sell you a bridge I own going into New York City
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#5539083 Posted on: 04/19/2018 04:34 PM
tbh, i modded the c7 with a gentle typhoon with tin snips and a square of sheet metal.
it kicked ass in one of those Silverstone Milo-style cases.
ass = a cramped space with convenient air intakes.
fuggitabouddit in most other super sff cases.
tbh, i modded the c7 with a gentle typhoon with tin snips and a square of sheet metal.
it kicked ass in one of those Silverstone Milo-style cases.
ass = a cramped space with convenient air intakes.
fuggitabouddit in most other super sff cases.
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#5539085 Posted on: 04/19/2018 04:41 PM
tbh, i modded the c7 with a gentle typhoon with tin snips and a square of sheet metal.
it kicked ass in one of those Silverstone Milo-style cases.
ass = a cramped space with convenient air intakes.
fuggitabouddit in most other super sff cases.
oh yeah ass also = i3 and cheap itx mobo stock
tbh, i modded the c7 with a gentle typhoon with tin snips and a square of sheet metal.
it kicked ass in one of those Silverstone Milo-style cases.
ass = a cramped space with convenient air intakes.
fuggitabouddit in most other super sff cases.
oh yeah ass also = i3 and cheap itx mobo stock
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50euro for this piece of crap? Just as badly priced as that poc of a cooler MASTERAIR G100M.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/8bipn5/quick-hands-on-the-cryorig-hu-c7/