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Core i9-9900K 8-core Will have Soldered Heatspreader
You know that Intel eight-core Core i9-9900K that is coming. Word out on the street is that Intel has been shipping some samples to overclockers. And as they found out, the 8-core parts do not use thermal paste, however, have the heat spreader directly soldered towards the die, much like Ryzen has.
If you think about it, the reason behind this could be twofold.
- Intel has been listening to the cries of all of us requesting a soldered SKUs for better thermal performance.
- Just that, they need it for thermal performance.
Of course, the answer is the last one, the extra cores based on the very same Coffee Lake architecture that well pretty much is Skylake when you think about it, will produce more heat and that is a challenge to deal with. But yeah, in the end, it is good news. It should be possible to reach 5 GHz overclocked (not on all cores), but that is the word on the floor. According to a well-informed user in the Coolaler forum, the Core i9-9900K runs at 4.7 GHz on all cores and at 5 GHz on two cores. The Core i7-9700K also has eight cores, but has to do without hyperthreading. And let me reiterate, several Intel-related sources have independently confirmed that Intel connects the metal lids to the processor via solder. This is only the case with the two Octacores, the Core i9-9900K and the Core i9-9700K. For the smaller models with six cores like the Core i5-9600K, the manufacturer still seems to use the classic thermal compound.
From what we hear, the release date is expected in September 2018.
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#5568256 Posted on: 07/26/2018 06:33 AM
Hey, well this is good news - much needed for 8 cores! In my own experience (& others) delidding with liquid metal reduces temperatures by about 15 degC - the solder on these 8 core CPUs would have the same effect, so it's possible these 8 core CPUs will run cooler than the toothpaste 6 core / 12 thread CPUs, my prediction anyway!
Hey, well this is good news - much needed for 8 cores! In my own experience (& others) delidding with liquid metal reduces temperatures by about 15 degC - the solder on these 8 core CPUs would have the same effect, so it's possible these 8 core CPUs will run cooler than the toothpaste 6 core / 12 thread CPUs, my prediction anyway!
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#5568260 Posted on: 07/26/2018 06:56 AM
8c/16t soldered and up to 5.5Ghz with overclock(If the rumors are true). A true beast.
8c/16t soldered and up to 5.5Ghz with overclock(If the rumors are true). A true beast.
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#5568261 Posted on: 07/26/2018 07:03 AM
Plot Twist: review Samples have Solder.
Tooth Paste for masses.
j/k
Plot Twist: review Samples have Solder.
Tooth Paste for masses.
j/k
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#5568263 Posted on: 07/26/2018 07:20 AM
Can 8700K users can test power usage on 4.7GHZ all cores? so we can assume the 9900K power usage?
Edit: tomshardware 8700K review:
Under our stress test, the overclocked processor gets uncomfortably hot, even under our compressor cooler.
While we're only measuring an average of 170W, thermal throttling keeps the 180W+ peaks from becoming our average power consumption result. At that point, even the most powerful coolers have to throw in the towel.
To be sure, it's surprising just how much power such a tiny processor can consume once it’s pushed to its limits. Nevertheless, Intel’s Core i7-8700K is relatively easy to cool, even on air. You'll just want to stay away from taxing rendering sessions and AVX-optimized workloads. At that point, you're best off with an all-in-one closed-loop liquid cooler.
So with 2 more cores with 4.7Ghz Over clock vs 8700K- We can seee why Intel was forced to solder the 9900K, same tactic as their 5Ghz 28 Core "new CPU"!.
no real new products are ready so Intel just overclocking their existing CPU's and releasing then under new SKU's -LOL.
P.S- how many corrent Z370 boards can handle those ~200W OC'ed 9900K?
Can 8700K users can test power usage on 4.7GHZ all cores? so we can assume the 9900K power usage?
Edit: tomshardware 8700K review:
Under our stress test, the overclocked processor gets uncomfortably hot, even under our compressor cooler.
While we're only measuring an average of 170W, thermal throttling keeps the 180W+ peaks from becoming our average power consumption result. At that point, even the most powerful coolers have to throw in the towel.
To be sure, it's surprising just how much power such a tiny processor can consume once it’s pushed to its limits. Nevertheless, Intel’s Core i7-8700K is relatively easy to cool, even on air. You'll just want to stay away from taxing rendering sessions and AVX-optimized workloads. At that point, you're best off with an all-in-one closed-loop liquid cooler.
So with 2 more cores with 4.7Ghz Over clock vs 8700K- We can seee why Intel was forced to solder the 9900K, same tactic as their 5Ghz 28 Core "new CPU"!.
no real new products are ready so Intel just overclocking their existing CPU's and releasing then under new SKU's -LOL.
P.S- how many corrent Z370 boards can handle those ~200W OC'ed 9900K?
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#5568268 Posted on: 07/26/2018 07:33 AM
Even 9700k seems to be soldered. I'm in. That will be an absolute gaming cpu. 8/8 nothing more needed before next Gen consoles.
Even 9700k seems to be soldered. I'm in. That will be an absolute gaming cpu. 8/8 nothing more needed before next Gen consoles.
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#5568270 Posted on: 07/26/2018 07:49 AM
about time too!
about time too!
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#5568274 Posted on: 07/26/2018 07:56 AM
Well here's hoping it will be just a bios update for z370 boards.
Well here's hoping it will be just a bios update for z370 boards.
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#5568278 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:09 AM
This is because of Ryzen, without it they would treat consumers a bit like crap because at the top you can do that.
This is because of Ryzen, without it they would treat consumers a bit like crap because at the top you can do that.
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#5568282 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:18 AM
If this ends up being true, then I'll most likely build a system around an i9-9900k. My 4770k can't go past 4.4GHz and my trusty old Z97 and DDR3 2400CL10 are just itching to be replaced Seeing as DDR5 is a ways out, I'm thinking 9900k on a Z390 with 16GB of DDR4 3600MHz and the new 1180. Playing emulators dependent on single core frequency is something I do often, so Intel has my money (if they solder for the retail chips) until 7nm Zen 2 arrives and can compete with a ~5.2GHz 9900k under an NH-D15S.
Three cheers for AMD bringing an end to the toothpaste era!
If this ends up being true, then I'll most likely build a system around an i9-9900k. My 4770k can't go past 4.4GHz and my trusty old Z97 and DDR3 2400CL10 are just itching to be replaced
Seeing as DDR5 is a ways out, I'm thinking 9900k on a Z390 with 16GB of DDR4 3600MHz and the new 1180. Playing emulators dependent on single core frequency is something I do often, so Intel has my money (if they solder for the retail chips) until 7nm Zen 2 arrives and can compete with a ~5.2GHz 9900k under an NH-D15S.Three cheers for AMD bringing an end to the toothpaste era!
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#5568283 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:19 AM
Yes!, this is why you got from " Best Gaming 4C CPU 7700K" last year to 8C 4.7Ghz 9900K this year!
Look how huge Impact Competition has! so keep spreading the word out that your friends/family can consider AMD CPU's too relative to their needs, big example would be 2200G/2400G vs cheap i3 Intel PC's that common customers don't know that 200G/2400G APU is better alternative to Intel's i3 with iGPU.
This is because of Ryzen, without it they would treat consumers a bit like crap because at the top you can do that.
Yes!, this is why you got from " Best Gaming 4C CPU 7700K" last year to 8C 4.7Ghz 9900K this year!
Look how huge Impact Competition has! so keep spreading the word out that your friends/family can consider AMD CPU's too relative to their needs, big example would be 2200G/2400G vs cheap i3 Intel PC's that common customers don't know that 200G/2400G APU is better alternative to Intel's i3 with iGPU.
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#5568287 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:33 AM
They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were using as thermal compound during earlier development.
Amazing how not being 100% pieces of shit is now something that's seen as a positive rather than expected. Good job Intel, there can now be theoretically greater scum than you.
They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were using as thermal compound during earlier development.
Amazing how not being 100% pieces of shit is now something that's seen as a positive rather than expected. Good job Intel, there can now be theoretically greater scum than you.
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#5568291 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:42 AM
Thank you, that gave me a good laugh!
They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were used as thermal compound during earlier development.
Thank you, that gave me a good laugh!
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#5568292 Posted on: 07/26/2018 08:46 AM
They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were using as thermal compound during earlier development.
Amazing how not being 100% pieces of crap is now something that's seen as a positive rather than expected. Good job Intel, there can now be theoretically greater scum than you.
Theories often happen to be false.
They probably had too many fires with the dried jizz they were using as thermal compound during earlier development.
Amazing how not being 100% pieces of crap is now something that's seen as a positive rather than expected. Good job Intel, there can now be theoretically greater scum than you.
Theories often happen to be false.
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#5568301 Posted on: 07/26/2018 09:15 AM
How can people who had Intel system over the years in the past and cheering as well as thanking AMD to bringing out the competition also upping the game in core count as well as the thermal solution when they don't intend to switch to AMD at all in future?!
I do not understand mentality of customers, on one side people thank AMD to bringing out competition & then they buy Intel. how the hell AMD would come back when you do not buy their products at all or not intend to buy the products from them in future at all?
How can people who had Intel system over the years in the past and cheering as well as thanking AMD to bringing out the competition also upping the game in core count as well as the thermal solution when they don't intend to switch to AMD at all in future?!
I do not understand mentality of customers, on one side people thank AMD to bringing out competition & then they buy Intel. how the hell AMD would come back when you do not buy their products at all or not intend to buy the products from them in future at all?
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