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Core i9 10990XE processor spotted, has 22 cores and 44 threads.
You've probably read our Core i9 10980XE review right? The most versatile (in cores) HEDT processor for the consumer market from Intel, a $979 product that sits as the flagship processor in the new Cascade lake line of processors with 18-cores. Well, Intel might be brewing something more.
Over in Asia the Chiphell forums shows two screenshots that will stir up some hype, a 22-core part on the X299 platform has been spotted. It's called, tagged and labeled the Core i9-10990XE, and perhaps Intel is looking to release it? it has four more cores compared to the current flagship product.
The Core i9-10990XE is shown in a CPU-Z screenshot as well as a Cinebench result. Zooming in on the specs you can see a "Cascade Lake-X" architecture. The proc is listed as having 22 cores 44 threads. Cache info shows 1 MB of dedicated L2 cache per core and 30.25 MB of shared L3 cache. Interesting is that this engineering sample is listing a base clock of 4.00 GHz with 5 GHz shown in the screenshot (we assume one core turbo). The i9-10990XE is listing 14,005 points in CB20 which is Threadripper 3960X territory (24 cores). I should mention the TDP listed though, 380 Watt. Have a peek:
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#5750304 Posted on: 01/13/2020 04:50 PM
Looks like the OLD x299 plattform will live a few years more
Looks like the OLD x299 plattform will live a few years more
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#5750308 Posted on: 01/13/2020 05:03 PM
Intel is fighting with what they have even its abomination that pulls 500W with some extreme cooling. Its sad where they end up to.
Intel is fighting with what they have even its abomination that pulls 500W with some extreme cooling. Its sad where they end up to.
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#5750310 Posted on: 01/13/2020 05:07 PM
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years 
Intel is fighting with what they have even its abomination that pulls 500W with some extreme cooling. Its sad where they end up to.
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
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#5750318 Posted on: 01/13/2020 05:35 PM
Your next upgrade will be AMD ! Cheer up !
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years Your next upgrade will be AMD ! Cheer up !
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#5750321 Posted on: 01/13/2020 05:40 PM
Didnt you payed 2000$ for that chip two years ago? Thats just sad again man, sry.
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years Didnt you payed 2000$ for that chip two years ago? Thats just sad again man, sry.
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#5750330 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:03 PM
The core i9-7980xe might be an excellent 18 core CPU, but i don't think that you can compare a 2000€ HEDT-platform processor - still selling for ca. 1250€ - with a mainstream 500€ (Ryzen 3900X, 12 core) or 800€ (Ryzen 3950X, 16 core) one. In the same class (HEDT) on AMD side you would find a 24 core (one year old) TR-2970WX for around 1000€ or (a shiny new) TR-3960X for 1400€, or a 32 core TR-2990WX for 1599€... All those should be faster, if someone needs as much multithreaded performance. Considering that TR-1950X (16 core) came out at the same time as your intel CPU for ca. 1000€ and the also 16 core TR-2950X a year later for 900€ (currently 700-800€), we can see how wonderful it is to have competition in all segments.
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years The core i9-7980xe might be an excellent 18 core CPU, but i don't think that you can compare a 2000€ HEDT-platform processor - still selling for ca. 1250€ - with a mainstream 500€ (Ryzen 3900X, 12 core) or 800€ (Ryzen 3950X, 16 core) one. In the same class (HEDT) on AMD side you would find a 24 core (one year old) TR-2970WX for around 1000€ or (a shiny new) TR-3960X for 1400€, or a 32 core TR-2990WX for 1599€... All those should be faster, if someone needs as much multithreaded performance. Considering that TR-1950X (16 core) came out at the same time as your intel CPU for ca. 1000€ and the also 16 core TR-2950X a year later for 900€ (currently 700-800€), we can see how wonderful it is to have competition in all segments.
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#5750334 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:07 PM
Yup!
Even in 2 grand i can build the whole rig.
The core i9-7980xe might be an excellent 18 core CPU, but i don't think that you can compare a 2000€ HEDT-platform processor - still selling for ca. 1250€ - with a mainstream 500€ (Ryzen 3900X, 12 core) or 800€ (Ryzen 3950X, 16 core) one. In the same class (HEDT) on AMD side you would find a 24 core (one year old) TR-2970WX for around 1000€ or (a shiny new) TR-3960X for 1400€, or a 32 core TR-2990WX for 1599€... All those should be faster, if someone needs as much multithreaded performance. Considering that TR-1950X (16 core) came out at the same time as your intel CPU for ca. 1000€ and the also 16 core TR-2950X a year later for 900€ (currently 700-800€), we can see how wonderful it is to have competition in all segments.
Yup!
Even in 2 grand i can build the whole rig.
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#5750338 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:13 PM
Completely fake.
The structure of the chip that fits in LGA2066 is 24 blocks, in a 6x4 mesh, from which 6 are I/O nodes and the rest are cores.
It's impossible to have more than 18 cores on HCC structure.
The XCC has 6x6 mesh (36), which is why that one tops at 28 cores (+8 I/O nodes) and impossible to have more with their current designs.
The XCC silicon however is much bigger and requires LGA-3647, which is a 6-channel memory socket.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/skylake-(server)
Read here and stop believing in made up "leaks".
In order to have more cores on any of these sockets, Intel needs a complete redesign of the CPU, which at this point it doesn't yet exist (maybe only on their design papers or in the lab)
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p.s. Extremely poor photoshop job, you can literally see the cut and edit areas if you zoom up the pictures.
Completely fake.
The structure of the chip that fits in LGA2066 is 24 blocks, in a 6x4 mesh, from which 6 are I/O nodes and the rest are cores.
It's impossible to have more than 18 cores on HCC structure.
The XCC has 6x6 mesh (36), which is why that one tops at 28 cores (+8 I/O nodes) and impossible to have more with their current designs.
The XCC silicon however is much bigger and requires LGA-3647, which is a 6-channel memory socket.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/skylake-(server)
Read here and stop believing in made up "leaks".
In order to have more cores on any of these sockets, Intel needs a complete redesign of the CPU, which at this point it doesn't yet exist (maybe only on their design papers or in the lab)
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p.s. Extremely poor photoshop job, you can literally see the cut and edit areas if you zoom up the pictures.
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#5750342 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:25 PM
@wavetrex
I had planned to say the same but see you have it covered. This is a flake. However the Comet Lake 10-core is on the way and will have large PL2 numbers think around 300 watts.
@wavetrex
I had planned to say the same but see you have it covered. This is a flake. However the Comet Lake 10-core is on the way and will have large PL2 numbers think around 300 watts.
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#5750346 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:42 PM
This is for me the usual firestarter.
Intel thread for intel cpus, having to report that your current cpu is faster than an AMD cpu no one mentioned.
And surprise, there is no reason to update an intel 7980xe for a few years, overclocked or not, with tweaked memory or not.
The few people that needed to update it probably jumped on the first 32 core cpu available already. The other do not have reason.
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years This is for me the usual firestarter.
Intel thread for intel cpus, having to report that your current cpu is faster than an AMD cpu no one mentioned.
And surprise, there is no reason to update an intel 7980xe for a few years, overclocked or not, with tweaked memory or not.
The few people that needed to update it probably jumped on the first 32 core cpu available already. The other do not have reason.
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#5750350 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:50 PM
You are on a dead platform next Amd desktop cpu will make your HEDT old and slow
but as always enjoy your system. Sry for grammar.
Yes it's sad, but my 2 years old delidded 7980xe is still kicking some ass @ 4,7ghz all core 49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years
49ns memorylatency, so it's faster then max overclocked 3900x/3950x in everything. Looks like I'm not upgrading the cpu for a few years You are on a dead platform next Amd desktop cpu will make your HEDT old and slow
but as always enjoy your system. Sry for grammar.
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#5750353 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:54 PM
And this is another nonsense: dead platform.
A dead platform is for example a platform that does not have sata3 or does not have nvme. Or DDR3.
All the rest is perfectly alive and kicking.
You are on a dead platform next Amd desktop cpu will make your HEDT absolute but as always enjoy your system. Sry for grammar.
And this is another nonsense: dead platform.
A dead platform is for example a platform that does not have sata3 or does not have nvme. Or DDR3.
All the rest is perfectly alive and kicking.
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#5750354 Posted on: 01/13/2020 06:55 PM
Also LOL at mainstream 3900x for 500$.
Mainstream? mainstream is the 3600x, 3700x.
All the rest is top notch stuff for people with enough money to have fun.
Also LOL at mainstream 3900x for 500$.
Mainstream? mainstream is the 3600x, 3700x.
All the rest is top notch stuff for people with enough money to have fun.
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#5750358 Posted on: 01/13/2020 07:05 PM
And this is another nonsense: dead platform.
A dead platform is for example a platform that does not have sata3 or does not have nvme. Or DDR3.
All the rest is perfectly alive and kicking.
We have been using DDR4 for a while now.
And this is another nonsense: dead platform.
A dead platform is for example a platform that does not have sata3 or does not have nvme. Or DDR3.
All the rest is perfectly alive and kicking.
We have been using DDR4 for a while now.
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I seriously hope this isn't the real product - 380 watt TDP FFS!
This is especially worrying since Intel advertises the TDP based on the base clock. What's the turbo TDP? 500W? Is this really the best that Intel can do to counter (the 280 watt peak usage) Threadripper?