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Core i9-10900K can boost to 5.3 GHz, more specifications of 10th Gen Core Comet Lake-S leak
One more Intel related post today as a heavy on impact series of slides just leaked including information on the Core i9-10900K CPU with 10 cores and 20 threads. Indeed 125W but it clocks at 3.7 GHz base towards a 5.2 GHz in boost. A new feature called Velocity Boost will unlock clock speeds up to 5.3 GHz, but only for two SKUs: 10900K and 10900 non-K.
The information leaked at Informatica Cero, and shows Intel Comet Lake-S Gen 10 to arrive in 2020 again using the refined 14nm fabrication node. This range includes the flagship Intel Core i9-10900K. This processor has a Turbo Boost frequency of 5.2GHz and also is listing a 5.3GHz thanks to what is called Intel Thermal Velocity Boost technology. The processor is tagged once again at a TDP of 125W, 10 cores, and 20 threads and a 20MB cache.
Further down on the listing you will find the i7-10700K. This processor would replace the i9-9900K and consists of 8 cores / 16 threads with a base frequency of 3.8GHz and a Turbo Boost of 5.1GHz. It also has a TDP of 125W and supports DDR4 memory at 2933MHz natively.
And finishing the K processors, we see the i5-10600K, which comes with 6 cores and 12 threads with a base frequency of 4.1GHz and a boost of 4.5GHz for all cores. These CPUs will rely on the LGA1200 Socket (Not Confirmed) and will use the new Intel 400 Series chipset. As new, this chipset supports more Cores (10), supports Intel Wi-Fi 6 and Intel Rapid Storage. No exact date of release of these CPUs is known but rumored is April.
| Mainstream Intel Core 10000-processors | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CPU | Cores/threads | Baseklok | Turbo 1T | Max Turbo 3.0 | All-core turbo | TDP |
| i9 10900K | 10C/20T | 3.7 GHz | 5.1 GHz | 5.2 GHz* | 4.8 GHz | 125W |
| i9 10900 | 10C/20T | 2.8 GHz | 5.0 GHz | 5.1 GHz* | 4.5 GHz | 65W |
| i7 10700K | 8C/16T | 3.8 GHz | 5.0 GHz | 5.1 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 125W |
| i7 10700 | 8C/16T | 2.9 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 4.8 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 65W |
| i5 10600K | 6C/12T | 4.1 GHz | 4.8 GHz | - | 4.5 GHz | 125W |
| i5 10600 | 6C/12T | 3.3 GHz | 4.8 GHz | - | 4.4 GHz | 65W |
| i5 10500 | 6C/12T | 3.1 GHz | 4.5 GHz | - | 4.2 GHz | 65W |
| i5 10400 | 6C/12T | 2.9 GHz | 4.3 GHz | - | 4.0 GHz | 65W |
| i3 10320 | 4C/8T | 3.8 GHz | 4.6 GHz | - | 4.4 GHz | 65W |
| i3 10300 | 4C/8T | 3.7 GHz | 4.4 GHz | - | 4.2 GHz | 65W |
| i3 10100 | 4C/8T | 3.6 GHz | 4.3 GHz | - | 4.1 GHz | 65W |
| * Intel Thermal Velocity Boost (single core / all core): 10900K: 5.3/4.9 GHz; 10900: 5.1/4.6 GHz | ||||||
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#5746244 Posted on: 12/30/2019 12:36 PM
It's funny because Ryzen has 2015 gamingperformance :p
Yay for 2015 tech in 2020. If rumor about Ryzen 4000 is true, Intel will be even more in trouble.
It's funny because Ryzen has 2015 gamingperformance :p
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#5746255 Posted on: 12/30/2019 01:41 PM
You should NOT use this kind of gatekeeping and elitism.
Labelling people with a status ( poor ) becasue of a cpu choice, is really bad.
Some people just like to feel superior by bullying others. I use amd and intel and i am happy with both. An A8 7600 wont suit everyone but it was a great little performer that only cost me a bit over 60quid.
I am no longer as short of spons as i was but the 9600K with 6 threads is powerful enough and wont be overclocked, i did some overclocking tests way back and there was about 1 second difference between 3.1ghz, a8 7600 base speed and 4.1ghz, a10 7890k base speed and it was double the price of the a8. 1 second for 60 quid more? not worth it.
You should NOT use this kind of gatekeeping and elitism.
Labelling people with a status ( poor ) becasue of a cpu choice, is really bad.
Some people just like to feel superior by bullying others. I use amd and intel and i am happy with both. An A8 7600 wont suit everyone but it was a great little performer that only cost me a bit over 60quid.
I am no longer as short of spons as i was but the 9600K with 6 threads is powerful enough and wont be overclocked, i did some overclocking tests way back and there was about 1 second difference between 3.1ghz, a8 7600 base speed and 4.1ghz, a10 7890k base speed and it was double the price of the a8. 1 second for 60 quid more? not worth it.
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#5746341 Posted on: 12/30/2019 07:57 PM
Sure would be nice if we saw cards getting 1.5x faster. Would sure be a compelling upgrade. They just seem to trickle the performance if there's nothing to contest the top card, though.
Only storage really can use that PCI-E 4.0 bandwidth much (and there-in only a few devices use it for consumer tech), and it's mostly servers that take advantage of it with NVME drive arrays. It's still nice to have pci-e 4.0 for the future, though, in-stead of building with yesterday's tech.
Until it's the minority showing any difference there's honestly no argument to be made for this, and you can't know how next gen cards will react to that, you can hypothesize that, but nothing's for certain, and besides next gen will only see 1 card faster than the 2080Ti, and that's probably 3080Ti (or whatever it'll be called), rest will be the same. Anyways i'm not saying that we won't need PCIe 4.0 or 5.0 eventually, but it's just not now, and nor it'll be 2020 because cards won't be magically double the performance we have now, or even 1.5x
Sure would be nice if we saw cards getting 1.5x faster. Would sure be a compelling upgrade. They just seem to trickle the performance if there's nothing to contest the top card, though.
Only storage really can use that PCI-E 4.0 bandwidth much (and there-in only a few devices use it for consumer tech), and it's mostly servers that take advantage of it with NVME drive arrays. It's still nice to have pci-e 4.0 for the future, though, in-stead of building with yesterday's tech.
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#5746345 Posted on: 12/30/2019 08:13 PM
They didn't push the GPU enough. I mean, unless you're ray tracing stuff, who buys higher than a 2070 / 2070 super to run 1080p? It's very well known that 1080p isn't going to let the GPU stretch it's legs as it could at 4k or anything slightly above/below that. The reason for CPU limitations is GHZ speed and IPC purely, running DX11 games and getting strung up trying to put too many draw calls from directX rendering. So the faster the CPU can chew through draw calls the faster the gpu can render frames, and higher frame-rate results (or not!).
(again, draw calls are the render calls the cpu makes when it tells the GPU to render a set of textured surfaces on an object, this is done one to 100 times on any object, for every separate set of connected textured surfaces on a model, on every model, in every scene, forgoing batching and other optimizations it can really slow things down if models aren't made right. A good 3d artist will be able to connect most similar-textured faces on an object and hence lower draw calls, and use batching - direct copies of textured faces on the same model - to help lower load where things cannot be connected directly).
https://prnt.sc/qhmdhv This link is safe for work, please open in new window/instance to see what I mean.
For illustration above, blue lines mean connected faces, white lines are new draw calls past that point. So all the windows here render as one, all the concrete renders as a few as there's 3 different sets of that concrete mostly on the roof edges. The roof is two draw calls for the dark asphalt-style roof coating (as it's two levels, one on-top the elevator house). All the doors on the building except the roof access door render as one draw call because they're dupes, it batches, and so forth. Each draw call means the CPU has to process it one at a time and send it to the GPU. A few 100 textured faces are nothing and the GPU can process thousands of faces in rendering by the time the CPU could send a draw call for a single face.
This is why some games are CPU limited at 1080p and others not.
So yes, entirely, benchmarks are always subject to how much the user knows about setting up and configuring his or her PC and the applications on it. Where this is really obvious is pretty much just saying, with the RTX series especially or a 1080Ti, 1080p is pretty much the new 720p when running DX11 or lower titles at 1080p in regards to CPU limitation. There's only so much you can crank up the GHZ with current tech - from any manufacturer, before diminishing returns, extreme power usage / thermal issues, and excess wear all kick in - especially if you want/need A LOT of cores.
For what it's worth my Ryzen 3700x is everything I need, even with paltry 3000mhz ram (dual rank sticks, yeah, bargain bin ones at that!), does everything I could ask with the 2070 Super. I can't complain, it's worlds better than / stomps all over a 4790k with an RX 480 card.
No buyer's remorse, it's a reasonably / tolerably quiet PC, it's roomy / easy to work on, it doesn't belch heat / fire when used hard, and keeps going doing everything I need it to in a reasonable time frame.
*nothing in here was a brag and only used when needed for example, but I DO want to say I tend to agree with a lot of folks here... but PLEASE always compare by price, as that rules 90% of us. Doing content creation / game asset production here most of the day, I wouldn't ever notice the difference if you switched this with a 9900k anyway, until it started pumping out twice as much heat (or more) and making me sweat.
there's probably something wrong with his tests
They didn't push the GPU enough. I mean, unless you're ray tracing stuff, who buys higher than a 2070 / 2070 super to run 1080p? It's very well known that 1080p isn't going to let the GPU stretch it's legs as it could at 4k or anything slightly above/below that. The reason for CPU limitations is GHZ speed and IPC purely, running DX11 games and getting strung up trying to put too many draw calls from directX rendering. So the faster the CPU can chew through draw calls the faster the gpu can render frames, and higher frame-rate results (or not!).
(again, draw calls are the render calls the cpu makes when it tells the GPU to render a set of textured surfaces on an object, this is done one to 100 times on any object, for every separate set of connected textured surfaces on a model, on every model, in every scene, forgoing batching and other optimizations it can really slow things down if models aren't made right. A good 3d artist will be able to connect most similar-textured faces on an object and hence lower draw calls, and use batching - direct copies of textured faces on the same model - to help lower load where things cannot be connected directly).
https://prnt.sc/qhmdhv This link is safe for work, please open in new window/instance to see what I mean.
For illustration above, blue lines mean connected faces, white lines are new draw calls past that point. So all the windows here render as one, all the concrete renders as a few as there's 3 different sets of that concrete mostly on the roof edges. The roof is two draw calls for the dark asphalt-style roof coating (as it's two levels, one on-top the elevator house). All the doors on the building except the roof access door render as one draw call because they're dupes, it batches, and so forth. Each draw call means the CPU has to process it one at a time and send it to the GPU. A few 100 textured faces are nothing and the GPU can process thousands of faces in rendering by the time the CPU could send a draw call for a single face.
This is why some games are CPU limited at 1080p and others not.
So yes, entirely, benchmarks are always subject to how much the user knows about setting up and configuring his or her PC and the applications on it. Where this is really obvious is pretty much just saying, with the RTX series especially or a 1080Ti, 1080p is pretty much the new 720p when running DX11 or lower titles at 1080p in regards to CPU limitation. There's only so much you can crank up the GHZ with current tech - from any manufacturer, before diminishing returns, extreme power usage / thermal issues, and excess wear all kick in - especially if you want/need A LOT of cores.
For what it's worth my Ryzen 3700x is everything I need, even with paltry 3000mhz ram (dual rank sticks, yeah, bargain bin ones at that!), does everything I could ask with the 2070 Super. I can't complain, it's worlds better than / stomps all over a 4790k with an RX 480 card.
No buyer's remorse, it's a reasonably / tolerably quiet PC, it's roomy / easy to work on, it doesn't belch heat / fire when used hard, and keeps going doing everything I need it to in a reasonable time frame.
*nothing in here was a brag and only used when needed for example, but I DO want to say I tend to agree with a lot of folks here... but PLEASE always compare by price, as that rules 90% of us. Doing content creation / game asset production here most of the day, I wouldn't ever notice the difference if you switched this with a 9900k anyway, until it started pumping out twice as much heat (or more) and making me sweat.
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Intel for casual people&gamers.
AMD for creators&poor people&poor gamers
It's my 1 comment. I've been active for 4 years, but now i register to say my opinion.
1st - i'm gamer, casual user, not content creator or benchmark n00b.
2nd - i'm living in Europe (Latvia - it's small country with one of the fastest internet speeds in the world)
3rd - i buy new parts for my pc, when i feel the need for them (2-3 times in decade)
My setup:
CPU: I7-6700k OC @ 4.6 Ghz
AOI: Enermax Liqfusion 360
RAM: 16 GB Kingston OC @ 2400MHz
GPU: GTX 1080Ti OC @ 1780 MHz
SSD: AData 1 TB Gammix S11 Pro
HDD: WD 1 Tb 7200 RPM
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C
Fans: Be Quiet Shadow Wings 2 x 5 pcs
PSU: Corsair RMi 750W
I m an AMD user and i m no way poor.
You should NOT use this kind of gatekeeping and elitism.
Labelling people with a status ( poor ) becasue of a cpu choice, is really bad.
This is your first message and i think you started with the wrong foot.
Please try to do better next time.