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Computex 2017: Intel To Release 18 core Core i9-7980XE Skylake-X CPU
Many expect Intel to answer AMDs 16-core processors with 12 maybe 14 core processors. Certainly not as they will be releasing an 18-core Skylake-X CPU, you better grab your life-savings in money. The processor would be called the Core i9-7980XE.
So that brings Skylake-X processor on 6-core, 8-core, 10-core, 12-core, 14-core, 16-core and 18-core models. Really, the 12-core and higher models are not expected to launch with X299 next month maybe even August as intel is not yet ready for mass volume sales. The slides demo X299 support, quad channel DDR4 2666 MHz memory, a new version of Intel Turbo Boost 3.0 technology plus a different cache structure opposed towards Haswell-E and Broadwell-E series. I stated it before, there's a bit of a panic reaction from Intel towards Ryzen 16-core parts, hence the 18-core models seem just that, a reaction to offer something more opposed to AMD Threadripper. These are HUGE steps for Intel, something we have not seen in years. Yep, they are bringing in the big guns.
Mind you that these are leaked slides and as such still are to be considered a rumor and unconfirmed.
| Archtecture | Cores/ Threads |
L3 Cache | PCIe Lanes | Base Clock | Boost 2.0 | Boost 3.0 | Launch | |
| i9 7980XE | Skylake-X | 18/36 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| i9 7960X | Skylake-X | 16/32 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| i9 7940X | Skylake-X | 14/24 | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| i9 7920X | Skylake-X | 12/24 | 16.5MB | 44 | - | - | - | August |
| i9 7900X | Skylake-X | 10/20 | 13.75MB | 44 | 3.3GHz | 4.3GHz | 4.5GHz | June |
| i9 7820X | Skylake-X | 8/16 | 11MB | 28 | 3.6GHz | 4.3GHz | 4.5GHz | June |
| i9 7800X | Skylake-X | 6/12 | 8.25MB | 28 | 3.5GHz | 4.0GHz | - | June |
| i7 7740K | Kaby Lake-X |
4/8 | 8MB | 16 | 4.3GHz | 4.5GHz | - | June |
| i7 7640K | Kaby Lake-X |
4/4 | 8MB | 16 | 4.0GHz | 4.2Ghz | - | June |
Source: Videocardz and OC3D
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#5437059 Posted on: 05/29/2017 01:20 PM
I know the higher core count versions are going to be expensive, but if the lower end i9 is more than $500 than it better wipe the floor with AMD's CPU or this won't sell at all.
I know the higher core count versions are going to be expensive, but if the lower end i9 is more than $500 than it better wipe the floor with AMD's CPU or this won't sell at all.
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#5437062 Posted on: 05/29/2017 01:29 PM
It doesn't appear that the 14, 16 and 18 cores are releasing on the 26th of June, so I suspect that Threadripper's 16 core CPU will touchdown first.
AMD has quite clearly shaken Intel pretty vigorously with Ryzen/TR.
It doesn't appear that the 14, 16 and 18 cores are releasing on the 26th of June, so I suspect that Threadripper's 16 core CPU will touchdown first.
AMD has quite clearly shaken Intel pretty vigorously with Ryzen/TR.
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#5437069 Posted on: 05/29/2017 01:42 PM
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
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#5437074 Posted on: 05/29/2017 01:52 PM
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
If you are replying to me, please show me where I used the word 'panic'
They moved their release schedule up and added SKUs because there is viable competition, I don't think they are panicking, I think they are reacting 'hastily' which shows that AMDs products are cause for concern, a specter Intel have not had to deal with for some time.
I'll be interested to see if Intel adopt a competitive pricing structure or simply try to pretend that they don't have any competition.
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
If you are replying to me, please show me where I used the word 'panic'
They moved their release schedule up and added SKUs because there is viable competition, I don't think they are panicking, I think they are reacting 'hastily' which shows that AMDs products are cause for concern, a specter Intel have not had to deal with for some time.
I'll be interested to see if Intel adopt a competitive pricing structure or simply try to pretend that they don't have any competition.
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#5437082 Posted on: 05/29/2017 02:33 PM
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
Could you please show where you read panic? It certainly wasnt on this thread.
These talks about "panic" are just nonsense, really.
True - Intel is reacting to AMD's new CPUs, but this is not a panic. Intel had years of total domination and as such had little incentives for any huge steps in core count, premformance and price.
Now they have a genuine competition, so they react accordingly.
I can't see a "panic" in this.
If someone expected Intel NOT to react, then they were mistaken.
Could you please show where you read panic? It certainly wasnt on this thread.
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#5437083 Posted on: 05/29/2017 02:38 PM
i9 7820X for <$500 please! (A man can dream!)
Looks like ultimatum gaming CPU to keep for several years.
i9 7820X for <$500 please! (A man can dream!)
Looks like ultimatum gaming CPU to keep for several years.
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#5437086 Posted on: 05/29/2017 02:46 PM
my pricing guesses
i9 7800x ~$500 ... guessing it around $400mark to be "most popular" mainstream cpu... afterall if we thinking that this is the low-quality chip (that have some cores disabled) intel should keep the pricing as low as possible
also with consideration that AMD will have aggressive pricing on their hi-end cpu
i9 7820x $650-$700
i9 7900x ~$850 ... why not $1000? because the 7920x that be "$1000" cpu
i9 7920x ~$1000
i9 7940x ~$1200
i9 7960x ~$1500
i9 7980xe $1800-$2000 ... it intel set price above $2000, then they are crazy and literaly make a product just for keeping/marking their cpu still hold the "king" of performance
my pricing guesses
i9 7800x ~$500 ... guessing it around $400mark to be "most popular" mainstream cpu... afterall if we thinking that this is the low-quality chip (that have some cores disabled) intel should keep the pricing as low as possible
also with consideration that AMD will have aggressive pricing on their hi-end cpu
i9 7820x $650-$700
i9 7900x ~$850 ... why not $1000? because the 7920x that be "$1000" cpu
i9 7920x ~$1000
i9 7940x ~$1200
i9 7960x ~$1500
i9 7980xe $1800-$2000 ... it intel set price above $2000, then they are crazy and literaly make a product just for keeping/marking their cpu still hold the "king" of performance
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#5437089 Posted on: 05/29/2017 02:49 PM
Technically theres nothing stopping AMD from countering with a 20+ core Threadripper if they want to solidify the performance crown. I think they will actually have the crown when Threadripper releases, I think it will be a while before the Intel 18 core becomes available.
AMD could easily take some binned 32c EPYC processors and release them as 20 or 24 core Threadrippers just to say they have the performance crown (biggest e-peen
)-- they could also price them accordingly.
Will that even be necessary, I don't know-- if Ryzen 1800x spars nicely with 6950x, Threadripper may do the same even with Intels 18 core.
All I know is that anyone with half a brain needs to seriously be applauding (and supporting with their wallets) AMD for this heroic challenge to Intel.
Technically theres nothing stopping AMD from countering with a 20+ core Threadripper if they want to solidify the performance crown. I think they will actually have the crown when Threadripper releases, I think it will be a while before the Intel 18 core becomes available.
AMD could easily take some binned 32c EPYC processors and release them as 20 or 24 core Threadrippers just to say they have the performance crown (biggest e-peen
)-- they could also price them accordingly.
Will that even be necessary, I don't know-- if Ryzen 1800x spars nicely with 6950x, Threadripper may do the same even with Intels 18 core.
All I know is that anyone with half a brain needs to seriously be applauding (and supporting with their wallets) AMD for this heroic challenge to Intel.
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#5437090 Posted on: 05/29/2017 02:49 PM
If you are replying to me, please show me where I used the word 'panic'
They moved their release schedule up and added SKUs because there is viable competition, I don't think they are panicking, I think they are reacting 'hastily' which shows that AMDs products are cause for concern, a specter Intel have not had to deal with for some time.
I'll be interested to see if Intel adopt a competitive pricing structure or simply try to pretend that they don't have any competition.
Could you please show where you read panic? It certainly wasnt on this thread.
Its in the Article, and it was stated by Hilbert: "..a bit of a panic reaction...".
I suspect AMD could release a 32 core chip if they felt like it, just not with all of the bells and whistles (yet). It would stay quad channel memory, due to the motherboards layout.....
If you are replying to me, please show me where I used the word 'panic'
They moved their release schedule up and added SKUs because there is viable competition, I don't think they are panicking, I think they are reacting 'hastily' which shows that AMDs products are cause for concern, a specter Intel have not had to deal with for some time.
I'll be interested to see if Intel adopt a competitive pricing structure or simply try to pretend that they don't have any competition.
Could you please show where you read panic? It certainly wasnt on this thread.
Its in the Article, and it was stated by Hilbert: "..a bit of a panic reaction...".
I suspect AMD could release a 32 core chip if they felt like it, just not with all of the bells and whistles (yet). It would stay quad channel memory, due to the motherboards layout.....
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#5437093 Posted on: 05/29/2017 03:00 PM
As much as i want AMD to be successful for the sake of competition and better prices, i'm affraid Intel will be ahead once again, the core clocks on all those cores is crazy compared to AMD clocks. :/
4.5GHZ 8 and 10 cores, i guess i did the right thing of not upgrading to Ryzen 1700.
The problem however is how AMD will price their CPUs as well as Intel, if Intel is going to keep ripoff people, good luck with that.
I know the higher core count versions are going to be expensive, but if the lower end i9 is more than than it better wipe the floor with AMD's CPU or this won't sell at all.
As much as i want AMD to be successful for the sake of competition and better prices, i'm affraid Intel will be ahead once again, the core clocks on all those cores is crazy compared to AMD clocks. :/
4.5GHZ 8 and 10 cores, i guess i did the right thing of not upgrading to Ryzen 1700.
The problem however is how AMD will price their CPUs as well as Intel, if Intel is going to keep ripoff people, good luck with that.
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#5437095 Posted on: 05/29/2017 03:09 PM
If the i9 7800/20X are priced affordably, they will win the crown.
But i really do expect AMD TR to come and to be price unbeatable with all the 44 pcie lanes. I am not expecting performance better on ipc though. That core frequencies on intel 8 cores are insane.
If the i9 7800/20X are priced affordably, they will win the crown.
But i really do expect AMD TR to come and to be price unbeatable with all the 44 pcie lanes. I am not expecting performance better on ipc though. That core frequencies on intel 8 cores are insane.
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#5437099 Posted on: 05/29/2017 03:15 PM
Fair play
Its in the Article, and it was stated by Hilbert: "..a bit of a panic reaction...".
Fair play
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#5437104 Posted on: 05/29/2017 03:32 PM
The amount of cores in these numbers probably wont bring the performance crown. Most stuff run on 1 core anyway, multi-core support being optimized for 2 or 4 cores in games. So the performance of a single core (or small bunch of cores) is going to award the performance crown for quite some time.
Technically theres nothing stopping AMD from countering with a 20+ core Threadripper if they want to solidify the performance crown.
The amount of cores in these numbers probably wont bring the performance crown. Most stuff run on 1 core anyway, multi-core support being optimized for 2 or 4 cores in games. So the performance of a single core (or small bunch of cores) is going to award the performance crown for quite some time.
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#5437107 Posted on: 05/29/2017 03:42 PM
People said the same about Dual Cores, from this point onward, Devs will take advantage of more cores due to the simple reason that they're becoming more common.
Intel will also now release more than just 4 cores for the mid-high end range market, whereas more was only available for Enthusiast market and extremely expensive.
The only reason Devs won't optimize for 8+ cores if the Engine they're using just doesn't support it.
As for Encoding, Image/Video Editing, Rendering etc All these cores are very good.
Even MMOs that are famous for not using more than one thread properly are already using various threads, it's just a matter of time before 8 cores becomes the mainstream, and the amount of time it will take will depend on how manufacturers price their 8+ cores.
Not to mention that even a 7700k (stock) might be close or even Bottleneck next gen GPUs like Volta or SLI on it.
Even if a 5GHZ 7700k would fix that, 5Ghz is out of reach for a lot of 7700k owners anyway.
But time will tell.
The amount of cores in these numbers probably wont bring the performance crown. Most stuff run on 1 core anyway, multi-core support being optimized for 2 or 4 cores in games. So the performance of a single core (or small bunch of cores) is going to award the performance crown for quite some time.
People said the same about Dual Cores, from this point onward, Devs will take advantage of more cores due to the simple reason that they're becoming more common.
Intel will also now release more than just 4 cores for the mid-high end range market, whereas more was only available for Enthusiast market and extremely expensive.
The only reason Devs won't optimize for 8+ cores if the Engine they're using just doesn't support it.
As for Encoding, Image/Video Editing, Rendering etc All these cores are very good.
Even MMOs that are famous for not using more than one thread properly are already using various threads, it's just a matter of time before 8 cores becomes the mainstream, and the amount of time it will take will depend on how manufacturers price their 8+ cores.
Not to mention that even a 7700k (stock) might be close or even Bottleneck next gen GPUs like Volta or SLI on it.
Even if a 5GHZ 7700k would fix that, 5Ghz is out of reach for a lot of 7700k owners anyway.
But time will tell.
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