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Coffee Lake Processors will not be compatible with Series 200 Chipsets
There has been a bit of confusion about upcoming Intel 6-core Coffee Lake being compatible with the current motherboards like thr Z270 series. Coffee lake makes use of the same socket and as such people expected (or had hoped for that).
It is now confirmed that you cannot use Coffee Lake on existing motherboards. In Specific it was ASRock who unraveled this mystery with a tweet:
As to why Coffee Lake cannot be used on Z270 remains a mystery though. The new processors will likele be introduced in late August or September with their accompanying Z370-chipset.
The presumable i7 8700K will have a 95W TDP, 3.7 GHz base clock, 4 GHz boost for 4/6 cores, 4.2 GHz for dual core and 4.3 GHz for a single core (likely 2 threads). Then there will be a 95W part with 3.2 GHz base clock and 3.4 GHz boost for 4/6 cores, and 3.6 GHz boost for 1 or two 2 threads. The last SKU is a 65W chip with a base clock of 3.1 GHz but 4/6 core turbos to 3.9 GHz. Dual core boost is 4.1 GHz while single core goes up to 4.2 GHz:
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#5458636 Posted on: 08/03/2017 06:33 AM
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
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#5458638 Posted on: 08/03/2017 07:26 AM
And here I was seriously considering selling my Skylake i5 and switching to the 6-core i5. I have no idea why I thought Intel would allow three CPU generations to be used with a single chipset, the socket compatibility aside. History certainly doesn't support such foolishly optimistic notions. Sure, rumours have been repeating that possibility for a long time, but as we all know by now, after Hilbert has said it quite a few times, Intel couldn't care less about press or tech sites anymore, so nothing concerning Intel is official (trustworthy) information before the news site managers (and everybody else) can actually read the stuff from Intel's own web site.
And here I was seriously considering selling my Skylake i5 and switching to the 6-core i5. I have no idea why I thought Intel would allow three CPU generations to be used with a single chipset, the socket compatibility aside. History certainly doesn't support such foolishly optimistic notions. Sure, rumours have been repeating that possibility for a long time, but as we all know by now, after Hilbert has said it quite a few times, Intel couldn't care less about press or tech sites anymore, so nothing concerning Intel is official (trustworthy) information before the news site managers (and everybody else) can actually read the stuff from Intel's own web site.
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#5458642 Posted on: 08/03/2017 07:49 AM
mo' money
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
mo' money
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#5458643 Posted on: 08/03/2017 07:50 AM
Part of massive scheme. Not only they bribe, but I am also certain to boost sales of Mobo's for every new Intel processor.
DISGUSTING.
To be Honest, I thought that now that AMD has given them hell on all fronts Intel will stop this disgusting practice and use the same socket all the way for couple next years. However no, they are still doing the same mistakes.
Well better for AMD. My next build for myself will be Ryzen, question is when as i'm waiting for Ryzen Pro and Ryzen 2, want to see what will happen with those. Recently I've made Ryzen 1800x workstation at my work, and have to say its fantastic for its price.
Go AMD.
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
Part of massive scheme. Not only they bribe, but I am also certain to boost sales of Mobo's for every new Intel processor.
DISGUSTING.
To be Honest, I thought that now that AMD has given them hell on all fronts Intel will stop this disgusting practice and use the same socket all the way for couple next years. However no, they are still doing the same mistakes.
Well better for AMD. My next build for myself will be Ryzen, question is when as i'm waiting for Ryzen Pro and Ryzen 2, want to see what will happen with those. Recently I've made Ryzen 1800x workstation at my work, and have to say its fantastic for its price.
Go AMD.
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#5458644 Posted on: 08/03/2017 07:50 AM
In this case it's not a socket change but a chipset change
Why... all about the money ofc.
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
In this case it's not a socket change but a chipset change
Why... all about the money ofc.
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#5458646 Posted on: 08/03/2017 07:56 AM
They called Wallet/ripper for a reason...
They called Wallet/ripper for a reason...
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#5458648 Posted on: 08/03/2017 08:07 AM
Haha, Walletripper, gotta remember that one
Haha, Walletripper, gotta remember that one
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#5458673 Posted on: 08/03/2017 08:52 AM
Because they can...
Why do Intel go through so many socket changes?
Because they can...
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#5458694 Posted on: 08/03/2017 09:53 AM
ah this.. if only ryzen came out a month earlier i would be rocking a 1800x now, but alas my itchy fingers pulled the trigger on a 7700k..
i wish for AMD's success although I have not used one since the Sempron days
ah this.. if only ryzen came out a month earlier i would be rocking a 1800x now, but alas my itchy fingers pulled the trigger on a 7700k..
i wish for AMD's success although I have not used one since the Sempron days
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#5458697 Posted on: 08/03/2017 10:06 AM
Why are people moaning about them changing socket so often, there is no need to upgrade that often anyway. Even brand new games recommend a core i7 3770 and thats over 5 years old. There are other things than gaming obviously but id say i'd upgrade a processor every 4 years and GPU every 18 months.
Why are people moaning about them changing socket so often, there is no need to upgrade that often anyway. Even brand new games recommend a core i7 3770 and thats over 5 years old. There are other things than gaming obviously but id say i'd upgrade a processor every 4 years and GPU every 18 months.
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#5458722 Posted on: 08/03/2017 10:52 AM
I'm fairly certain that the number of pins and the name of the socket is going to stay the same, they're just gonna move the notches on the socket because reasons...
I'm fairly certain that the number of pins and the name of the socket is going to stay the same, they're just gonna move the notches on the socket because reasons...
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#5458726 Posted on: 08/03/2017 11:04 AM
Yes,good one.
They are one of the WalletRipper of the tech industry.
They called Wallet/ripper for a reason...
Yes,good one.
They are one of the WalletRipper of the tech industry.
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#5458738 Posted on: 08/03/2017 11:26 AM
Recommended hardware for games is usually a big BS.
This is gold, accurate $hintel description for the past 10 years.
You guys expected the same socket? ahahah
Wouldn't it be easy to give the motherboard another 50 or 100 more pins and arrange the CPU's so they would work (but with new features disabled perhaps) allowing for at least 3 generations upgrades? Ya, but $hintel needs your money!
Sincerely looking for a used i7 3770 and waiting for Ryzen 2. The cost of a new system isn't worth for me now.
Even brand new games recommend a core i7 3770 and thats over 5 years old.
Recommended hardware for games is usually a big BS.
They called WalletRipper for a reason...
This is gold, accurate $hintel description for the past 10 years.
You guys expected the same socket? ahahah
Wouldn't it be easy to give the motherboard another 50 or 100 more pins and arrange the CPU's so they would work (but with new features disabled perhaps) allowing for at least 3 generations upgrades? Ya, but $hintel needs your money!
Sincerely looking for a used i7 3770 and waiting for Ryzen 2. The cost of a new system isn't worth for me now.
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#5458741 Posted on: 08/03/2017 11:32 AM
Yeah, I too am baffled that people are expecting the same socket to be around longer than one generation. Whenever I bought a new intel rig I was always aware of needing a new mainboard, most of the time you at least got some new features like PCIe 3.0, USB3.0 or something similar out of it.
There have been exceptions of the rule (Haswell - Broadwell for instance), but that's simply because Broadwell was merely an updated Haswell chip.
You guys expected the same socket? ahahah
Yeah, I too am baffled that people are expecting the same socket to be around longer than one generation. Whenever I bought a new intel rig I was always aware of needing a new mainboard, most of the time you at least got some new features like PCIe 3.0, USB3.0 or something similar out of it.
There have been exceptions of the rule (Haswell - Broadwell for instance), but that's simply because Broadwell was merely an updated Haswell chip.
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I hope Intel will have come to their senses when I upgrade in 2022, but the odds are against them.