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Cinebench R20 download taken offline after legal threat from Maxon
We have been happy to report that Maxon released a new revision of its CineBench benchmark Release 20. Unfortunately, Maxon has made a legal threat against Guru3D.com and is forcing us to take the Cinebench R20 download offline.
Maxon Computer GmBh will only allow the download of Cinebench R20 through UWP (Microsoft Store). Though we strongly feel that this is a community tool which belongs in the public domain we obviously totally need to respect what the publisher deems appropriate for them. It’s unfortunate, but it is what it is.
You can download Cinebench R20 through the Microsoft Store through this link.
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#5647776 Posted on: 03/08/2019 02:20 PM
I guess their warning hasnt reached everybody. Available at Techspot at moment of posting.
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6709-cinebench.html
It for Mac not Windows
I don't understand why people are not considering Luxmark as a better alternative. It is based on open source tools, is multi-platform, can render in openCL or C++ modes and is more demanding than Cinebench R15 in the complex scene "Hotel Lobby":
http://wiki.luxcorerender.org/LuxMark
Oh let see Luxmark is for modern GPU processor that support OpenGL where Cinebench is for multiple cores CPU processor there a big diff.
Lets ban them this stupid on there part when they are claiming that is Supported Systems: PC Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or higher and just how in the **** are we supposed to download it.
I guess their warning hasnt reached everybody. Available at Techspot at moment of posting.
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6709-cinebench.html
It for Mac not Windows
I don't understand why people are not considering Luxmark as a better alternative. It is based on open source tools, is multi-platform, can render in openCL or C++ modes and is more demanding than Cinebench R15 in the complex scene "Hotel Lobby":
http://wiki.luxcorerender.org/LuxMark
Oh let see Luxmark is for modern GPU processor that support OpenGL where Cinebench is for multiple cores CPU processor there a big diff.
Lets ban them this stupid on there part when they are claiming that is Supported Systems: PC Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or higher and just how in the **** are we supposed to download it.
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#5647785 Posted on: 03/08/2019 02:40 PM
Before everyone keeps jumping down Maxon's throat.
I would ask Hilbert to show us the Email/Letter they sent you, so we can judge how harsh they were or how threatening they were in the letter to you.
You make it sound like they were pulling no punches and going hard at you, this may be the case, but we should all see this and then judge them on what they said, not what we are told they said.
Before everyone keeps jumping down Maxon's throat.
I would ask Hilbert to show us the Email/Letter they sent you, so we can judge how harsh they were or how threatening they were in the letter to you.
You make it sound like they were pulling no punches and going hard at you, this may be the case, but we should all see this and then judge them on what they said, not what we are told they said.
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#5647789 Posted on: 03/08/2019 03:04 PM
It's amusing watching the reactions of some of the people here. A developer has every right to their software, including which store they sell or make available from. Believe it or not, we enthusiasts are not entitled to it.
The only thing off about this is the legal threat. Couldn't they have just asked nicely?
It's amusing watching the reactions of some of the people here. A developer has every right to their software, including which store they sell or make available from. Believe it or not, we enthusiasts are not entitled to it.
The only thing off about this is the legal threat. Couldn't they have just asked nicely?
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#5647794 Posted on: 03/08/2019 03:10 PM
+1, legal threat was unnecessary since they know Guru3d from R15 downloads for many years.
+1, legal threat was unnecessary since they know Guru3d from R15 downloads for many years.
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#5647827 Posted on: 03/08/2019 05:03 PM
It for Mac not Windows
Oh let see Luxmark is for modern GPU processor that support OpenGL where Cinebench is for multiple cores CPU processor there a big diff.
Lets ban them this stupid on there part when they are claiming that is Supported Systems: PC Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or higher and just how in the **** are we supposed to download it.
Luxmark can run both on CPU or GPU. As written in the description, there is a mode using standard C++ and not OpenCL.
Whatever powerful your CPU is, the test will run for 2 minutes and try to render as many vectors as possible.
All my 8C/16T are fully loaded during the test and cores are warmer than during Cinebench R15 test
It for Mac not Windows
Oh let see Luxmark is for modern GPU processor that support OpenGL where Cinebench is for multiple cores CPU processor there a big diff.
Lets ban them this stupid on there part when they are claiming that is Supported Systems: PC Windows 7 SP1 64-bit or higher and just how in the **** are we supposed to download it.
Luxmark can run both on CPU or GPU. As written in the description, there is a mode using standard C++ and not OpenCL.
Whatever powerful your CPU is, the test will run for 2 minutes and try to render as many vectors as possible.
All my 8C/16T are fully loaded during the test and cores are warmer than during Cinebench R15 test
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#5647861 Posted on: 03/08/2019 06:45 PM
Maybe just hypothetically, Microsoft is trying to make Windows 10 work more securely by tightening down how apps can be downloaded.
With the move to DCH drivers, they are starting to force all major hardware manufacturers and program developers to write UWP apps for their products.
In a year, they don't support anything other than the Windows 10 OS.
This way they have control over what apps can be deemed malicious and what apps are safe. Some may not like the word "control" and "microsoft" in the same sentence, but it's likely for the average user's safety and not the power users that mainly roam Guru3D.
This is what happens on Android or MacOS/iOS. There's ways to download applications from a web browser and inject them into the system by APK or dmg through unconventional methods (which is what Win32 API is becoming), but they have their own app stores to filter out the malicious apps from the legitimate ones.
Maybe just hypothetically, Microsoft is trying to make Windows 10 work more securely by tightening down how apps can be downloaded.
With the move to DCH drivers, they are starting to force all major hardware manufacturers and program developers to write UWP apps for their products.
In a year, they don't support anything other than the Windows 10 OS.
This way they have control over what apps can be deemed malicious and what apps are safe. Some may not like the word "control" and "microsoft" in the same sentence, but it's likely for the average user's safety and not the power users that mainly roam Guru3D.
This is what happens on Android or MacOS/iOS. There's ways to download applications from a web browser and inject them into the system by APK or dmg through unconventional methods (which is what Win32 API is becoming), but they have their own app stores to filter out the malicious apps from the legitimate ones.
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#5647877 Posted on: 03/08/2019 07:26 PM
Before everyone keeps jumping down Maxon's throat.
I would ask Hilbert to show us the Email/Letter they sent you, so we can judge how harsh they were or how threatening they were in the letter to you.
You make it sound like they were pulling no punches and going hard at you, this may be the case, but we should all see this and then judge them on what they said, not what we are told they said.
I'm pretty sure even saying it in a nice tone does not change the fact they wanted it taken down. Legal action doesn't automatically equal harsh tone in communication.
Before everyone keeps jumping down Maxon's throat.
I would ask Hilbert to show us the Email/Letter they sent you, so we can judge how harsh they were or how threatening they were in the letter to you.
You make it sound like they were pulling no punches and going hard at you, this may be the case, but we should all see this and then judge them on what they said, not what we are told they said.
I'm pretty sure even saying it in a nice tone does not change the fact they wanted it taken down. Legal action doesn't automatically equal harsh tone in communication.
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#5648077 Posted on: 03/09/2019 02:05 PM
someone should do it.
someone should do it.
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#5648083 Posted on: 03/09/2019 02:39 PM
I did try to use the Windows Store a few times, but it's very bad.
So bad that I got to use Windows LTSC, and it's much cleaner, uses less ram, and it's faster.
I did try to use the Windows Store a few times, but it's very bad.
So bad that I got to use Windows LTSC, and it's much cleaner, uses less ram, and it's faster.
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#5648127 Posted on: 03/09/2019 07:26 PM
Typical moronic behavior of closed source software developers. These guys are like the dinosaurs – they're already dead and don't know it yet (applies to both the Cinebench creator and Windows itself).
Typical moronic behavior of closed source software developers. These guys are like the dinosaurs – they're already dead and don't know it yet (applies to both the Cinebench creator and Windows itself).
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#5648137 Posted on: 03/09/2019 08:22 PM
I think most already downloaded it the normal way, so no worries xD
Well I did
I think most already downloaded it the normal way, so no worries xD
Well I did
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#5648140 Posted on: 03/09/2019 08:54 PM
I'm gunna mirror it everywhere and then send them the :refuck: emoji.
1. It's free software
2. There is no legal disclaimer enforcing distribution requirements bound to the package.
Maxon is in the wrong lol.
I beg to differ "RESTRICTIONS OF USE
The copyright in all material provided on this Site is held by Maxon Computer or by the original creator of the material. Except as stated herein, none of the material may be copied, reproduced, printed, distributed, republished, downloaded, displayed, posted or transmitted in any form or by any means, including, but not limited to, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Maxon Computer or the copyright owner. Permission is granted to display, copy, distribute and download the materials on this Site for personal, non-commercial use only, provided you do not modify the materials and that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the materials. This permission terminates automatically if you breach any of these terms or conditions. Upon termination you are obliged to immediately destroy any downloaded and/or printed materials. You also may not, without Maxon Computer's permission, "mirror" any material contained on this Site on any other server. Any unauthorized use of any material contained on this Site may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.
I'm gunna mirror it everywhere and then send them the :refuck: emoji.
1. It's free software
2. There is no legal disclaimer enforcing distribution requirements bound to the package.
Maxon is in the wrong lol.
I beg to differ "RESTRICTIONS OF USE
The copyright in all material provided on this Site is held by Maxon Computer or by the original creator of the material. Except as stated herein, none of the material may be copied, reproduced, printed, distributed, republished, downloaded, displayed, posted or transmitted in any form or by any means, including, but not limited to, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without the prior written permission of Maxon Computer or the copyright owner. Permission is granted to display, copy, distribute and download the materials on this Site for personal, non-commercial use only, provided you do not modify the materials and that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the materials. This permission terminates automatically if you breach any of these terms or conditions. Upon termination you are obliged to immediately destroy any downloaded and/or printed materials. You also may not, without Maxon Computer's permission, "mirror" any material contained on this Site on any other server. Any unauthorized use of any material contained on this Site may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.
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#5648192 Posted on: 03/10/2019 02:35 AM
and I will never download anything threw the UWP store so i guess they will never have download from me again
and I will never download anything threw the UWP store so i guess they will never have download from me again
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#5648212 Posted on: 03/10/2019 06:59 AM
Oh Great...Another...."I think I will shoot myself in the foot" ....that will drum up business fast.
Elmer Fudd I tell ya!
Oh Great...Another...."I think I will shoot myself in the foot" ....that will drum up business fast.
Elmer Fudd I tell ya!
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Yeah bad move by Maxon. I think Luxmark is the way to go. Maxon in time honoured internet tradition. Get fucked mate.