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Cheaper Version of Microsoft Office TBA
Microsoft is planning to offer a new version of Office, at a lower price: Office 365 Personal, which will cost $70 a year or $7 a month. This version will allow a person to install it on two devices,"one PC or Mac and one tablet," Microsoft's Chris Schneider explains in a blog post. Apparently Microsoft still doesn't get it that people DO NOT want subscriptions.
Today I want to announce Office 365 Personal. Coming this Spring, Office 365 Personal is a new, great option for people interested in using Office 365. It's designed for an individual, allows for one PC or Mac and one tablet to be connected to the service and will be available for $69.99 USD/year or $6.99 USD/ month (ERP)1. We recognize that there are households of all shapes and sizes and we're committed to delivering the right Office for everyone - whether that be one person or an entire household.
Additionally, we'll continue to offer our Office 365 Home Premium subscription for households, but we'll be changing the name to Office 365 Home. You'll see this change when Office 365 Personal becomes available. Whichever Office 365 subscription you choose, you'll get all of the subscription benefits including 60 minutes of Skype calling per month, 20 GB of additional OneDrive storage and always be up to date with the most recent version of Office.
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#4783698 Posted on: 03/17/2014 09:42 AM
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
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#4783699 Posted on: 03/17/2014 09:45 AM
Well, I opted for Office 365 a year ago, and renewed the subscription. I'm really satisfied with their services.
Over here, in Poland, it's a great deal for pro users (for home users, read paragraph below). To stay up to date I'd have to buy a boxed version every 2 years or so, and the cheapest commercial version of Office - Home and Small Business costs >$400 over here (converted to USD), while Professional is around $800. Office 365 is more expensive in Europe than in US, but a year of Small Business Premium, which includes Professional Plus desktop products for 5 computers (using it on 3 now) and all the online services, costs me 125€ a year, which is like $175 ($215 with VAT). Effectively I get more for less. Installation is fast and simple.
Of course, there are drawbacks - it could cost less, and if I decide to stop paying, I'm left without service (I could just download the documents from Skydrive Pro). Also, you can't link SBP subscription with Visio, as Visio is available only for Enterprise plans (still available and affordable for single user).
Also, the personal edition is kinda so-so. $70 a year is not impressive compared to $100 a year for the option that can be shared in household. On top of that, I can remember paying around $80 for a boxed household version of Office 2007, which my parents and brother are still using and enjoying. It was a great deal, as it wasn't a great cost, especially after being used for so many years by several people, and as today, there's hardly any reason to upgrade. No wonder MS want to avoid such situations to happen again and going hardcore with a subscription service. Yes, you still have boxed options, but they're not that great as 2007 deal.
MS is not the only company to do it. Software as a service becomes more and more common. I can remember outrage related to Adobe discontinuing boxed versions of Photoshop. However in Adobe case they significantly increased the product cost, while Office 365 at least costs less for the commercial usage. Perhaps if the boxed versions were significantly cheaper in US, I might understand the disappointment and frustration.
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
Free alternatives may be good for many and they should be evaluated. While I generally recommend MS Office, I'd consider it a bad practice not to at least try out some free alternatives. Perhaps they'll be good enough, or maybe even better for some situations.
I also have to contradict the statement that new MS Office does less. It's just made up and completely not true. Each consecutive version adds new features. I'd suggest trying it out before claiming such false statements.
Well, I opted for Office 365 a year ago, and renewed the subscription. I'm really satisfied with their services.
Over here, in Poland, it's a great deal for pro users (for home users, read paragraph below). To stay up to date I'd have to buy a boxed version every 2 years or so, and the cheapest commercial version of Office - Home and Small Business costs >$400 over here (converted to USD), while Professional is around $800. Office 365 is more expensive in Europe than in US, but a year of Small Business Premium, which includes Professional Plus desktop products for 5 computers (using it on 3 now) and all the online services, costs me 125€ a year, which is like $175 ($215 with VAT). Effectively I get more for less. Installation is fast and simple.
Of course, there are drawbacks - it could cost less, and if I decide to stop paying, I'm left without service (I could just download the documents from Skydrive Pro). Also, you can't link SBP subscription with Visio, as Visio is available only for Enterprise plans (still available and affordable for single user).
Also, the personal edition is kinda so-so. $70 a year is not impressive compared to $100 a year for the option that can be shared in household. On top of that, I can remember paying around $80 for a boxed household version of Office 2007, which my parents and brother are still using and enjoying. It was a great deal, as it wasn't a great cost, especially after being used for so many years by several people, and as today, there's hardly any reason to upgrade. No wonder MS want to avoid such situations to happen again and going hardcore with a subscription service. Yes, you still have boxed options, but they're not that great as 2007 deal.
MS is not the only company to do it. Software as a service becomes more and more common. I can remember outrage related to Adobe discontinuing boxed versions of Photoshop. However in Adobe case they significantly increased the product cost, while Office 365 at least costs less for the commercial usage. Perhaps if the boxed versions were significantly cheaper in US, I might understand the disappointment and frustration.
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
Free alternatives may be good for many and they should be evaluated. While I generally recommend MS Office, I'd consider it a bad practice not to at least try out some free alternatives. Perhaps they'll be good enough, or maybe even better for some situations.
I also have to contradict the statement that new MS Office does less. It's just made up and completely not true. Each consecutive version adds new features. I'd suggest trying it out before claiming such false statements.
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#4783729 Posted on: 03/17/2014 11:22 AM
Software as a service is a crock of ****. Just ask the German courts
Software is a product and shouldn't be able to be sold as a service as all too often they are not services at all. It's just a money grab.
If they reduced the excessive costs there would be less piracy of their software and more satisfied customers. Currently that's not the case.
Software as a service is a crock of ****. Just ask the German courts
Software is a product and shouldn't be able to be sold as a service as all too often they are not services at all. It's just a money grab.
If they reduced the excessive costs there would be less piracy of their software and more satisfied customers. Currently that's not the case.
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#4783793 Posted on: 03/17/2014 02:52 PM
Subscription? Cough...torrent....cough....free...
Subscription? Cough...torrent....cough....free...
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#4783813 Posted on: 03/17/2014 03:35 PM
haven't paid for office since 2007
haven't paid for office since 2007
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#4783906 Posted on: 03/17/2014 06:28 PM
I bought 365 last year at a discount for military members and it was still not worth it. It says stay up with the most recent version. I never once saw a version update to my office and even if so they are charging for patches now? Biggest freaking waste of money I ever spent.
I bought 365 last year at a discount for military members and it was still not worth it. It says stay up with the most recent version. I never once saw a version update to my office and even if so they are charging for patches now? Biggest freaking waste of money I ever spent.
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#4783910 Posted on: 03/17/2014 06:40 PM
All you who complain don't need it and wont buy it anyway, so why even bother?
@rl66
Last time I checked, none of the free alternatives could cover the same.
@makain
All patches and the last service pack did not come with any additional cost, stop spreading false rumors.
All you who complain don't need it and wont buy it anyway, so why even bother?
@rl66
Last time I checked, none of the free alternatives could cover the same.
@makain
All patches and the last service pack did not come with any additional cost, stop spreading false rumors.
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#4783920 Posted on: 03/17/2014 06:52 PM
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
I'd like to know what open office does more of, or what aspects it contains which MS Office does not.
Might be good for home users on a budget, but it'll take an extremely convincing argument to persuade me to recommend anything other than MS Office for the modern business, especially with cloud.
It is perhaps a personal standpoint but I simply would not recommend open anything for a business. This includes wordpress for the website of a company...it has yet to convince me personally that it is safe to use, not just for e-commerce and CRM but CMS, too.
Things cost money for a reason.
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
few ago M$ Office had still a step further but since the last office it is now less versatile and have less tool...
I'd like to know what open office does more of, or what aspects it contains which MS Office does not.
Might be good for home users on a budget, but it'll take an extremely convincing argument to persuade me to recommend anything other than MS Office for the modern business, especially with cloud.
It is perhaps a personal standpoint but I simply would not recommend open anything for a business. This includes wordpress for the website of a company...it has yet to convince me personally that it is safe to use, not just for e-commerce and CRM but CMS, too.
Things cost money for a reason.
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#4783924 Posted on: 03/17/2014 06:58 PM
I don't really understand either why anyone would buy office software in this age, especially if they're pulling subscription crap.
LibreOffice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
do they know that now the open source office do more and are... totaly free???
I don't really understand either why anyone would buy office software in this age, especially if they're pulling subscription crap.
LibreOffice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
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#4784056 Posted on: 03/17/2014 10:57 PM
I got mine through my firms work scheme, it cost £8.95 for Office 2010 and then they updated it to office 2013 for the same price. Well worth the money.
I got mine through my firms work scheme, it cost £8.95 for Office 2010 and then they updated it to office 2013 for the same price. Well worth the money.
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#4784078 Posted on: 03/17/2014 11:47 PM
I don't really understand either why anyone would buy office software in this age, especially if they're pulling subscription crap.
LibreOffice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
Because Libreoffice is **** for anything aside from the most basic use.
I don't really understand either why anyone would buy office software in this age, especially if they're pulling subscription crap.
LibreOffice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
Because Libreoffice is **** for anything aside from the most basic use.
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#4784204 Posted on: 03/18/2014 07:46 AM
Learned that the hard way last semester when I did a large presentation in the Libreoffice version of powerpoint. I spent a few days on it getting the formatting perfect and then when I opened it in powerpoint to present to the class everything was just a garbled mess.
That's when I just bit the bullet and subscribed to Office 365 student.
Libreoffice worked great for me for writing papers, but until you can be 100% assured that your projects won't get messed up Microsoft still runs the game in business / school.
Because Libreoffice is **** for anything aside from the most basic use.
Learned that the hard way last semester when I did a large presentation in the Libreoffice version of powerpoint. I spent a few days on it getting the formatting perfect and then when I opened it in powerpoint to present to the class everything was just a garbled mess.
That's when I just bit the bullet and subscribed to Office 365 student.
Libreoffice worked great for me for writing papers, but until you can be 100% assured that your projects won't get messed up Microsoft still runs the game in business / school.
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#4784289 Posted on: 03/18/2014 11:08 AM
Don't like subscriptions, ugly interface and cloud services. Until this stuff is gone, I'm sticking with the free version of KingSoft Office.
Don't like subscriptions, ugly interface and cloud services. Until this stuff is gone, I'm sticking with the free version of KingSoft Office.
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#4784364 Posted on: 03/18/2014 01:30 PM
I use apache openoffice. It costs $0 a year, $0 a month. Screw you M$.
I use apache openoffice. It costs $0 a year, $0 a month. Screw you M$.
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Pretty much this. MS can go and suck a fat one with their subscription services.