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Brazilians make a 'RTX 2080 Ti Super' by fitting it with faster GDDR6
Brilliant stuff, as-if the GeForce 2080 Ti isn't fast enough, we all heard about the rumors about that Super model. Well, what if you supercharge it yourself? Your get your SMT gun and heater, remove the GDDR6 DIMMs, and replace them with faster ones :-)
So here's what three musketeers in Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 cards, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR6. Surprisingly enough, that actually worked.
Obviously I need to make a few remarks here, there is no fully enabled GPU, ergo the shader processor count is the same (which would be different for a Super model). Secondly, there's not one 2080 Ti card we tested, that could not get its memory tweaked at 16 Gbps. In fact the MSI lighting we clocked at 16,548 MHz (effective data-rate). So it's all a little relative. But .. they 16 Gbps GDDR6 memory, can be tweaked as well, and they ended at 17,200 MHz and that is 3,200 MHz more than the memory that is on a standard 2080 Ti. An higher frequency was not possible on that memory because the memory controller would not allow this, according to the modders. Btw I think I recognize some faces, at least one of them works for Galax and it does seem and feel a bit like a Galax viral/promotional. But still, what the guys did was .. yeah crazy, but we like crazy :)
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#5735576 Posted on: 11/27/2019 06:30 PM
That is just cool,wish I had the solder skills to do that.
That is just cool,wish I had the solder skills to do that.
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#5735588 Posted on: 11/27/2019 07:25 PM
What the hell?
What the hell?
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#5735595 Posted on: 11/27/2019 07:54 PM
With current price of gpus, i would make sense, make them modular and enable at least memory chip upgrading replacement and adding.. we already had possibility to add more memory until 1997 or something like that.. and why no make gpu replacable too? So videocard would be something like 2nd level motherboard.
It would be even more ecological too.. but wait, profits would be less.. so Nvidia or ATI would not ever enable it.. it would ends like modular cell phones in /dev/null
With current price of gpus, i would make sense, make them modular and enable at least memory chip upgrading replacement and adding.. we already had possibility to add more memory until 1997 or something like that.. and why no make gpu replacable too? So videocard would be something like 2nd level motherboard.
It would be even more ecological too.. but wait, profits would be less.. so Nvidia or ATI would not ever enable it.. it would ends like modular cell phones in /dev/null
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#5735599 Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:05 PM
Hehe thats crazy! But i LOVE IT!
Hehe thats crazy! But i LOVE IT!
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#5735603 Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:11 PM
I guess the Catholics down there are REALLY progressive
EDIT: erm wait no nope those crosses are upside down woops
It's NVIDIA's Brazil rep...
What the hell?
I guess the Catholics down there are REALLY progressive
EDIT: erm wait no nope those crosses are upside down woops
It's NVIDIA's Brazil rep...
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#5735605 Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:26 PM
With current price of gpus, i would make sense, make them modular and enable at least memory chip upgrading replacement and adding.. we already had possibility to add more memory until 1997 or something like that.. and why no make gpu replacable too? So videocard would be something like 2nd level motherboard.
It would be even more ecological too.. but wait, profits would be less.. so Nvidia or ATI would not ever enable it.. it would ends like modular cell phones in /dev/null
I'm not sure such cards would fit anymore the physical constraints of typical mobos and cases. Video cards from this decade and the 90's are quite different. Energy consumption and thus the heat produced have multiplied, which dictates a massive cooling solution must be employed, for both the GPU and the memory, preferably also for the regulators. As it is, the mainstream video cards must be both resilient enough and affordable enough to attract buyers. BGA is one way to make both the cooling optimal and to reduce production costs while ensuring quality. In fact every now and then there has been industry talk of wanting to switch to BGA, and the things going along with it, with the CPU+mobo combination as well, but it has encountered resistance due to historical reasons, even if it was, in fact, all the same maybe to most PC buyers. I've gone through quite a few PCs myself, as I wasn't born yesterday, but I've never only changed the CPU. I've always got a mobo and a CPU when building a new PC. Although I've messed with the memory more.
With current price of gpus, i would make sense, make them modular and enable at least memory chip upgrading replacement and adding.. we already had possibility to add more memory until 1997 or something like that.. and why no make gpu replacable too? So videocard would be something like 2nd level motherboard.
It would be even more ecological too.. but wait, profits would be less.. so Nvidia or ATI would not ever enable it.. it would ends like modular cell phones in /dev/null
I'm not sure such cards would fit anymore the physical constraints of typical mobos and cases. Video cards from this decade and the 90's are quite different. Energy consumption and thus the heat produced have multiplied, which dictates a massive cooling solution must be employed, for both the GPU and the memory, preferably also for the regulators. As it is, the mainstream video cards must be both resilient enough and affordable enough to attract buyers. BGA is one way to make both the cooling optimal and to reduce production costs while ensuring quality. In fact every now and then there has been industry talk of wanting to switch to BGA, and the things going along with it, with the CPU+mobo combination as well, but it has encountered resistance due to historical reasons, even if it was, in fact, all the same maybe to most PC buyers. I've gone through quite a few PCs myself, as I wasn't born yesterday, but I've never only changed the CPU. I've always got a mobo and a CPU when building a new PC. Although I've messed with the memory more.
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#5735607 Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:28 PM
In fact, what they did was not take the HOF GDDR6 and get into a 2080Ti.
They took the 16Gbps GDDR6 from the new 2080 Super, and put in a HOF 2080Ti
2080Ti comes with 14Gbps GDDR6, even the HOF model
In fact, what they did was not take the HOF GDDR6 and get into a 2080Ti.
They took the 16Gbps GDDR6 from the new 2080 Super, and put in a HOF 2080Ti
2080Ti comes with 14Gbps GDDR6, even the HOF model
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#5735608 Posted on: 11/27/2019 08:37 PM
I thought that with all that RTX speed, she/he would be naked by now...
I thought that with all that RTX speed, she/he would be naked by now...
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#5735623 Posted on: 11/27/2019 09:59 PM
Here in Brazil we call this a "gambiarra".
Here in Brazil we call this a "gambiarra".
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#5735624 Posted on: 11/27/2019 10:07 PM
So they took the 16Gbps memory off one 2080 Ti, and put it on another 2080 Ti?
So they took the 16Gbps memory off one 2080 Ti, and put it on another 2080 Ti?
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#5735631 Posted on: 11/27/2019 10:40 PM
No, they did what DarknightOCR said, took memory from a 2080 Super HOF and put it on a 2080Ti.
So they took the 16Gbps memory off one 2080 Ti, and put it on another 2080 Ti?
No, they did what DarknightOCR said, took memory from a 2080 Super HOF and put it on a 2080Ti.
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#5735632 Posted on: 11/27/2019 10:52 PM
Then I'm confused because this is what Hilbert's article says: "So here's what three musketeers in Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR6. Surprisingly enough, that actually worked."
No, they did what DarknightOCR said, took memory from a 2080 Super HOF and put it on a 2080Ti.
Then I'm confused because this is what Hilbert's article says: "So here's what three musketeers in Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR6. Surprisingly enough, that actually worked."
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#5735634 Posted on: 11/27/2019 10:54 PM
That's not what the article says. "Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR'
So either the article needs to be corrected or this was a complete waste of time.
No, they did what DarknightOCR said, took memory from a 2080 Super HOF and put it on a 2080Ti.
That's not what the article says. "Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR'
So either the article needs to be corrected or this was a complete waste of time.
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#5735635 Posted on: 11/27/2019 10:55 PM
Nope: "Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR"
Either the article is wrong or they wasted their time.
No, they did what DarknightOCR said, took memory from a 2080 Super HOF and put it on a 2080Ti.
Nope: "Brazil did, they removed 16 Gbps GDDR6 from a Galax RTX 2080 Ti Hall of Fame, and then planted that same GDDR6 memory on a GeForce GTX 2080 Ti which normally has 14 Gbps GDDR"
Either the article is wrong or they wasted their time.
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