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ASUS - Valve & Others Are Subject of EU investigation For Illegal Price Fixing

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/02/2017 06:06 PM | source: | 32 comment(s)
ASUS - Valve & Others Are Subject of EU investigation For Illegal Price Fixing

In the EU the European Commission starts an investigation into suspected anti-competitive practices in e-commerce. As it seems a familiar name has surfaced ASUS but also includes Denon & Marantz, Philips and Pioneer. In another investigation Valve is being looked into as well.

The investigation is focused on etail web-stores where the companies allegedly have fixed prices with these shops, this is illegal in the EU in order to keep prices competitive, fair and open. Not a lot of information has been given in the EU document. As the press release explains, the Commission believes the companies may have broken competition rules by stopping online retailers in Europe from setting their own prices for products including household appliances, laptops and hi-fi equipment. Historically the fines from the European Commission can be extremely hurtful if ruled right.

Interesting however also is that VALVE and its related publishers are topic of investigation. That investigation concerns geo-blocking practices, where companies prevent consumers from purchasing digital content, in this case PC video games, because of the consumer's location or country of residence. The EC is investigating if bilateral agreements between Valve and the video games publishers restrict trade within the Single Market by preventing consumers buying cheaper versions of games in other member states.

Below a paste of the total investigation:

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Antitrust: Commission opens three investigations into suspected anticompetitive practices in e-commerce

Brussels, 2 February 2017

The European Commission has launched three separate investigations to assess if certain online sales practices prevent, in breach of EU antitrust rules, consumers from enjoying cross-border choice and being able to buy consumer electronics, video games and hotel accommodation at competitive prices.

Commissioner Margrethe Vestager, in charge of competition policy said: "E-commerce should give consumers a wider choice of goods and services, as well as the opportunity to make purchases across borders. The three investigations we have opened today focus on practices where we suspect companies are trying to deny these benefits for consumers. The cases concern the consumer electronics, video games and hotel accommodation sectors. More specifically, we are looking into whether these companies are breaking EU competition rules by unfairly restricting retail prices or by excluding customers from certain offers because of their nationality or location."

Although more and more goods and services are traded over the internet worldwide, cross-border online sales within the EU are only growing slowly. The Commission's Digital Single Market Strategy identifies a number of regulatory barriers that hinder cross-border e-commerce and proposes different initiatives to address these.

However, there are also indications that businesses may themselves establish barriers to cross-border online trade, with a view to fragmenting the EU's Single Market along national borders and preventing competition. The Commission has therefore launched an inquiry to gather market information in order to better understand the nature, prevalence and effects of these barriers and to assess them in light of EU antitrust rules.

The three investigations opened today by the Commission aim to tackle the specific issues of retail price restrictions, discrimination on the basis of location and geo-blocking. The preliminary results of the Commission's competition sector inquiry on e-commerce show that the use of these restrictions is widespread throughout the EU.

Under certain circumstances, these practices may make cross-border shopping or online shopping in general more difficult and ultimately harm consumers by preventing them from benefiting from greater choice and lower prices in e-commerce. Such behaviour may breach EU competition rules that prohibit anti-competitive agreements between companies (Article 101 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - TFEU).

 

Consumer electronics manufacturers

The Commission is investigating whether Asus, Denon & Marantz, Philips and Pioneer have breached EU competition rules by restricting the ability of online retailers to set their own prices for widely used consumer electronics products such as household appliances, notebooks and hi-fi products.

The effect of these suspected price restrictions may be aggravated due to the use by many online retailers of pricing software that automatically adapts retail prices to those of leading competitors. As a result, the alleged behaviour may have had a broader impact on overall online prices for the respective consumer electronics products.

The Commission is carrying out this in-depth investigation on its own initiative.

 

Video games

The Commission is investigating bilateral agreements concluded between Valve Corporation, owner of the Steam game distribution platform, and five PC video game publishers, Bandai Namco, Capcom, Focus Home, Koch Media and ZeniMax. The investigation concerns geo-blocking practices, where companies prevent consumers from purchasing digital content, in this case PC video games, because of the consumer's location or country of residence.

After the purchase of certain PC video games users need to confirm that their copy of the game is not pirated to be able to play it. This is done with an "activation key" on Valve's game distribution platform, Steam. This system is applied for a wide range of games, including sports, simulation and action games.

The investigation focuses on whether the agreements in question require or have required the use of activation keys for the purpose of geo-blocking. In particular, an "activation key" can grant access to a purchased game only to consumers in a particular EU Member State (for example the Czech Republic or Poland). This may amount to a breach of EU competition rules by reducing cross-border competition as a result of restricting so-called "parallel trade" within the Single Market and preventing consumers from buying cheaper games that may be available in other Member States.

The Commission is carrying out this in-depth investigation on its own initiative.

Background

Article 101 TFEU prohibits agreements between undertakings and decisions of associations of undertakings that prevent, restrict or distort competition within the EU's Single Market.

The opening of formal proceedings does not prejudge the outcome of the investigation. It relieves the competition authorities of EU Member States of their competence to apply EU competition rules to the practices concerned.

There is no legal deadline for bringing an antitrust investigation to an end. The duration of an investigation depends on a number of factors, including the complexity of the case, the cooperation of the companies with the Commission and the exercise of the rights of defence.



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Redemption80
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#5388302 Posted on: 02/03/2017 02:57 PM
And they voted for increased military spending. I wonder where that money will come from. :infinity:


Higher taxes on corporations like the ones in this thread is looking likely, so higher prices for consumers.

As for Valve and the credit thing, i need to look into that as on the face of it people have a right to complain.
Imagine if everyone paid you in store credit, or ebay only paid you in credit.

Complaining can help make things better, only slaves fear complaining.

I better not complain about my raw food, they might start serving it raw for everyone with added saliva for seasoning.

Aura89
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#5388616 Posted on: 02/04/2017 08:55 AM
I don't care about what other people have complained about.

My point is, if I can put money into my steam account, then, I should be able to take that money back out.

And if people can't complain, then, you better shut-up the next time a game or driver doesn't work.

I've never complained about what a game or driver doesn't work, because not only have i never installed a driver that has given me problems, but games are rare that they are so badly done that they can't be played, and if they are they usually (but not always) get fixed relatively fast, and i generally wait awhile.

And no, you should not be able to get your money back that you put in. Like any gift card for any company ever, you are not able to turn it in for cash. Why you expect this to be different is beyond me.

Higher taxes on corporations like the ones in this thread is looking likely, so higher prices for consumers.

As for Valve and the credit thing, i need to look into that as on the face of it people have a right to complain.
Imagine if everyone paid you in store credit, or ebay only paid you in credit.

Complaining can help make things better, only slaves fear complaining.

I better not complain about my raw food, they might start serving it raw for everyone with added saliva for seasoning.

You can not compare steam to ebay or random stores when it comes to credit unless you are the one making games or skins/etc. to sell on workshop.

Wanna make a game for steam? Fine, do it, sell it on steam, have the money put in your bank, just like you would on Ebay, amazon, and the like

Wanna make a skin for CS:GO or many various games and hope it gets put into the game? Fine, the profits you get for it will be put in your bank account, just like making and selling things on ebay, amazon and the like

If you are comparing Steam to ebay or any other store, then you are comparing your ability to sell games on steam, or make skins etc. As there is no comparison when it comes to selling in-game items on any other system. When amazon, ebay, and the like start selling their own in-house digital items that you can only use on their websites and that you can sell between other people on ebay and the like, then you can compare them. Until then, you are comparing apples and zebras.

Again, all that comes from complaining because people are greedy, is you getting your way but at a cost. You have already destroyed the sales, what more do you need to destroy before your greed is satisfied?

Stormyandcold
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#5388706 Posted on: 02/04/2017 03:36 PM
Aura89, It's people like you who have actually helped kill the PC retail market and made PC games have no resale value. All that just to save a few dollars on digital games that you don't even technically own anymore (a side topic on it's own). Even then, you only seem to be bothered about sales, not full-price (which the promise of digital was supposed to be cheaper games), which further helped these companies to justify selling us the same s*** time after time and exploit users.

If it was down to people like you, we wouldn't even be able to refund games at all. You're all too willing to accept Steam's "closed-system", but, you ignore the fact we're dealing with real money here. Let me say that again, REAL MONEY NOT CREDIT. This has nothing to do with whether you make games or create content. No matter how you try and spin it, this is real money we're dealing with.

CSGO itself is a great example of why Steam needs investigating. All those skin buying/selling transactions etc costs users real money. When we buy a gun/knife/stickers etc, we're using real money. They're obviously charging us for everything we do. There is definately cash profit being made by them, therefore, they must be taxed since we already are being taxed by them. To not investigate them would be the equivalent of allowing them to do digital money laundering.

You also accuse people of being greedy, but, you over-look the company's greed completely.

When I put money into my steam account it tells me how much I've got in £. For you in $. It's not in C (credit). It is real cash that is used to pay for games/items with real cash value. Further proof is that I can take my £40 and walk into a shop and buy the same games, except, I would have a boxed-retail-version. If those game shops didn't exist, yeah, your argument could maybe be justified, but, that's not the reality. People are pushing for Steam to allow selling on games they don't want. You know what happens when they allow this? Yep, transaction charges.

Your own greed for cheap "on-sale" games doesn't justify anything else related to money regarding Steam.

What I've said isn't even related to what Valve are being investigated for (yet), but, I hope changes that favour consumers more than these companies and corporations comes into place.

Prince Valiant
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#5388743 Posted on: 02/04/2017 05:19 PM
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Again, all that comes from complaining because people are greedy, is you getting your way but at a cost. You have already destroyed the sales, what more do you need to destroy before your greed is satisfied?
It sounds like they're concerned about their rights as a consumer, not being greedy. I'd rather lose out on a somewhat better sale than sacrifice my rights so a company can make more money.

Redemption80
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#5388791 Posted on: 02/04/2017 08:15 PM
Apologies for the lazy response, but on my phone.

Yep, Valve are effectively making money from it twice by enforcing credit only.
It's very smart, but a better deal could be struck for everyone else.

I also think it's wrong to live in fear of complaining because they could make things even worse.
True, it's a gamble but you could also make things better.

Personally, i think things are better now when it comes to sales etc m

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