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ASUS PG248Q will be a 180 Hz Full HD monitor
It seems we are moving from 144 towards 180 Hz, and honestly, I have no idea why. But the ASUS PG248Q pushes it further, supporting an overclocked refresh rate of 180Hz and featuring Nvidia’s G-SYNC variable refresh rate technology.
This model is adopts the recent ‘ROG SWIFT’ styling, a series of gaming monitors of which this is a member as PC Monitors report:
Bezels are slender, although not remarkably so – unboundedly a limitation of the panel used which will have a moderate panel border to contend with. The stand appears to feature the ‘Light In Motion’ red ring. There is also a joystick (JOG button) for intuitive control of the OSD (On Screen Display) menu system. The stand is fully adjustable, with tilt, swivel, height and pivot adjustment.
It has a 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) resolution, TN (Twisted Nematic) panel type and a medium matte anti-glare screen surface for effective glare handling. On this monitor it is overclocked to 180Hz and combined with G-SYNC (30 – 180Hz), eliminating stuttering and tearing from the traditional frame and refresh rate mismatches on compatible Nvidia GPUs. A flicker-free WLED backlight is used, yielding a 350 cd/m² typical maximum luminance and a range of ‘Ulta Low Blue Light’ settings feature.
The stand attaches by 100 x 100mm VESA, allowing it to be detached and an alternative VESA compatible stand or mount used. DP 1.2 (with G-SYNC), HDMI 1.4, 2 2 USB 3.0 ports and a 3.5mm earphone jack feature. The monitor is now slipping out in the UK with an SRP of £399 (which is roughly 479 EURO).
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#5306422 Posted on: 07/15/2016 09:06 AM
yes because your ATI 7850 OC can run all games just fine at those res.
Full Hd is history now. I prefer 4k/2k 60 hz over Full HD 180 hz.
yes because your ATI 7850 OC can run all games just fine at those res.
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#5306431 Posted on: 07/15/2016 09:21 AM
wonder if normal eyes can see the difference
my eyes cant see the difference from 120hz vs 144hz
wonder if I can see the difference between 120hz & 180hz.. as there is quite gap
also if combining with FPS.. reaching 180fps is another step, I guess that the reason why asus keep it on HD rather UHD
many things in tech, is like from awesome feature that really have improvement to >>> marketing gimmick that people no longer can really get the benefit
wonder if normal eyes can see the difference
my eyes cant see the difference from 120hz vs 144hz
wonder if I can see the difference between 120hz & 180hz.. as there is quite gap
also if combining with FPS.. reaching 180fps is another step, I guess that the reason why asus keep it on HD rather UHD
many things in tech, is like from awesome feature that really have improvement to >>> marketing gimmick that people no longer can really get the benefit
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#5306438 Posted on: 07/15/2016 09:36 AM
wonder if normal eyes can see the difference
my eyes cant see the difference from 120hz vs 144hz
wonder if I can see the difference between 120hz & 180hz.. as there is quite gap
also if combining with FPS.. reaching 180fps is another step, I guess that the reason why asus keep it on HD rather UHD
many things in tech, is like from awesome feature that really have improvement to >>> marketing gimmick that people no longer can really get the benefit
Yes they are overdoing it with marketing here. They compete each other with the spec sheet (bigger = better). We still do not have single GPUs which can handle 4k @ 60 with maxed out graphics. Newer games are always more demanding than older. Let alone hitting 180hz. Except if you are playing LoL and the likes and still you can't tell the difference between 120hz and 180hz. I couldn't tell any difference between 120 and 140 fps on my PG278Q. It's clear those monitors are a niche towards gamers with huge pockets for multi GPUs configurations and the monitor itself. Personally I would be happy with 1080p 60 OLED 60hz and 4K OLED 60hz monitors with sensible prices. Guess I gotta wait some years.
wonder if normal eyes can see the difference
my eyes cant see the difference from 120hz vs 144hz
wonder if I can see the difference between 120hz & 180hz.. as there is quite gap
also if combining with FPS.. reaching 180fps is another step, I guess that the reason why asus keep it on HD rather UHD
many things in tech, is like from awesome feature that really have improvement to >>> marketing gimmick that people no longer can really get the benefit
Yes they are overdoing it with marketing here. They compete each other with the spec sheet (bigger = better). We still do not have single GPUs which can handle 4k @ 60 with maxed out graphics. Newer games are always more demanding than older. Let alone hitting 180hz. Except if you are playing LoL and the likes and still you can't tell the difference between 120hz and 180hz. I couldn't tell any difference between 120 and 140 fps on my PG278Q. It's clear those monitors are a niche towards gamers with huge pockets for multi GPUs configurations and the monitor itself. Personally I would be happy with 1080p 60 OLED 60hz and 4K OLED 60hz monitors with sensible prices. Guess I gotta wait some years.
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#5306440 Posted on: 07/15/2016 09:46 AM
180hz. For the demanding gamer who likes to play 6 year old games and new games at the lowest possible settings.
What a sausage fest.
180hz. For the demanding gamer who likes to play 6 year old games and new games at the lowest possible settings.
What a sausage fest.
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#5306447 Posted on: 07/15/2016 10:11 AM
Marketing. The moar the better!
It seems we are moving from 144 towards 180 HZ, and I have no idea why.
Marketing. The moar the better!
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#5306453 Posted on: 07/15/2016 10:31 AM
I would prefer this over a 4k monitor myself. Smoothness and reduced input lag is way more important to me than higher resolution... I don't see myself going for more than a 24" monitor, or atleast not yet.
Of course, I would need to have the fps to go with it.
I would prefer this over a 4k monitor myself. Smoothness and reduced input lag is way more important to me than higher resolution... I don't see myself going for more than a 24" monitor, or atleast not yet.
Of course, I would need to have the fps to go with it.
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#5306457 Posted on: 07/15/2016 10:38 AM
240Hz or no GO!
Come on guys, I am sure there are screens and driver electronics which can do that perfectly synced with backlight strobe having proper intervals.
1080p is great resolution. It has fully sufficient details, this resolution is not that bandwidth heavy on cable standard side.
And it is not that heavy for GPUs to render at high frame rate if user wants that.
240Hz or no GO!
Come on guys, I am sure there are screens and driver electronics which can do that perfectly synced with backlight strobe having proper intervals.
1080p is great resolution. It has fully sufficient details, this resolution is not that bandwidth heavy on cable standard side.
And it is not that heavy for GPUs to render at high frame rate if user wants that.
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#5306461 Posted on: 07/15/2016 10:43 AM
180hz. For the demanding gamer who likes to play 6 year old games and new games at the lowest possible settings.
What a sausage fest.
True that.
With the new games its hard to have a decent fps without some settings off or low.
@ 1080p TN panel & G-Sync the combination its not good.
Good bye 1080p & TN panels.
180hz. For the demanding gamer who likes to play 6 year old games and new games at the lowest possible settings.
What a sausage fest.
True that.
With the new games its hard to have a decent fps without some settings off or low.
@ 1080p TN panel & G-Sync the combination its not good.
Good bye 1080p & TN panels.
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#5306469 Posted on: 07/15/2016 10:49 AM
4k@75hz. thats all i want.
4k@75hz. thats all i want.
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#5306502 Posted on: 07/15/2016 11:42 AM
... why do we need 50/60Hz ? Movies at 24 fps look just fine !
... why do we need 120Hz ? 60Hz is butter smooth !
... why do we need 144Hz ? 120Hz is already too fast, human eye can't perceive that
Because reality doesn't have frames per second.
There is one point of course in which detail and frames rate will be so high that our brains will perceive it as "reality", but we're not there yet.
I've read an article once about this (don't ask for link because I don't even have any clue anymore where I read it), scientist did tests with volunteers and some high-tech equipment to discover if people were noticing motion that was only happening for fractions of a second.
Apparently, even as short as 1/800 of a second -some- people still noticed the motion, but at 1/1000 nobody did.
So I'm guessing that when our monitors will reach 800Hz the moving image will be indistinguishable from reality, for EVERYONE... but we're now at 180 so... far far away from the possible max.
... why do we need 50/60Hz ? Movies at 24 fps look just fine !
... why do we need 120Hz ? 60Hz is butter smooth !
... why do we need 144Hz ? 120Hz is already too fast, human eye can't perceive that
Because reality doesn't have frames per second.
There is one point of course in which detail and frames rate will be so high that our brains will perceive it as "reality", but we're not there yet.
I've read an article once about this (don't ask for link because I don't even have any clue anymore where I read it), scientist did tests with volunteers and some high-tech equipment to discover if people were noticing motion that was only happening for fractions of a second.
Apparently, even as short as 1/800 of a second -some- people still noticed the motion, but at 1/1000 nobody did.
So I'm guessing that when our monitors will reach 800Hz the moving image will be indistinguishable from reality, for EVERYONE... but we're now at 180 so... far far away from the possible max.
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#5306526 Posted on: 07/15/2016 12:13 PM
At first I thought maybe this was not that great a step forward, but then thinking some more it came to mind that no FreeSync or GSync monitor can currently run anti screen tearing tech at the same time as motion blur reduction. Only one or the other can run - hopefully something they will sort out Soon with upcoming panels.
So perhaps this 180Hz screen will with the high refresh have the effect of significantly reducing any apparent motion blur while also running its GSync anti tearing.
If it works in this regard it could, for many, be one of the best available monitors available now.
The sooner motion blur is eradicated the better:
(thanks tftcentral for images)
The img below at 144Hz is marginally better:
The detail of the UFO starts to become visible
So I am not expecting a miracle at 180Hz, but it is also a new panel designed for super high refresh, so I'd hope for a better 40Hz step up than these two pics show
At first I thought maybe this was not that great a step forward, but then thinking some more it came to mind that no FreeSync or GSync monitor can currently run anti screen tearing tech at the same time as motion blur reduction. Only one or the other can run - hopefully something they will sort out Soon with upcoming panels.
So perhaps this 180Hz screen will with the high refresh have the effect of significantly reducing any apparent motion blur while also running its GSync anti tearing.
If it works in this regard it could, for many, be one of the best available monitors available now.
The sooner motion blur is eradicated the better:
(thanks tftcentral for images)
The img below at 144Hz is marginally better:
The detail of the UFO starts to become visible
So I am not expecting a miracle at 180Hz, but it is also a new panel designed for super high refresh, so I'd hope for a better 40Hz step up than these two pics show
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#5306530 Posted on: 07/15/2016 12:26 PM
That price... what is asus doing? Guessing this is a pro gamer monitor.
That price... what is asus doing? Guessing this is a pro gamer monitor.
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#5306589 Posted on: 07/15/2016 01:56 PM
This is great news! We dont need to have 180 fps to take advantage of 180hz monitor -.-
I'm I the only one that sees that higher refresh rate will solve (for your eyes) the screen tearing problem without freesync/gsync?
That's not what slyphnier said.. He was talking about refresh rate and I can also notice the diference. Not how fluid the game look's but on input lag..
This is great news! We dont need to have 180 fps to take advantage of 180hz monitor -.-
I'm I the only one that sees that higher refresh rate will solve (for your eyes) the screen tearing problem without freesync/gsync?
(...)I couldn't tell any difference between 120 and 140 fps on my PG278Q.(..)
That's not what slyphnier said.. He was talking about refresh rate and I can also notice the diference. Not how fluid the game look's but on input lag..
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#5306598 Posted on: 07/15/2016 02:05 PM
240Hz or no GO!
Come on guys, I am sure there are screens and driver electronics which can do that perfectly synced with backlight strobe having proper intervals.
1080p is great resolution. It has fully sufficient details, this resolution is not that bandwidth heavy on cable standard side.
And it is not that heavy for GPUs to render at high frame rate if user wants that.
Well there is almost 2yr old Eizo with 240hz ok real 120hz with turbo boost trick but still.. at least its a VA panel and not 2000's TN.
240Hz or no GO!
Come on guys, I am sure there are screens and driver electronics which can do that perfectly synced with backlight strobe having proper intervals.
1080p is great resolution. It has fully sufficient details, this resolution is not that bandwidth heavy on cable standard side.
And it is not that heavy for GPUs to render at high frame rate if user wants that.
Well there is almost 2yr old Eizo with 240hz ok real 120hz with turbo boost trick but still.. at least its a VA panel and not 2000's TN.
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Full Hd is history now. I prefer 4k/2k 60 hz over Full HD 180 hz.