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Asus’s Jonney Shih has made some crazy bets over the years — teeny-tiny laptops, phones that turn into tablets, and even a seven-inch tablet that can be held to the ear to make phone calls. shih1 But, so far, the only bet that Shih said hasn’t panned out was the company’s move to build products based on Windows RT, the slimmed-down version of Windows 8 that runs on ARM-based processors. Asus is pulling back on Windows RT, Chairman Says.
“The result is not very promising,” the Asus chairman told AllThingsD, noting both Microsoft’s well-publicized issues with the Surface RT as well as Asus’s own VivoTab RT.
While not completely ruling out future Windows RT products, Shih said that, when it comes to Windows, he is putting all of his time and energy into devices that use Intel chips.
People still use a lot of classic Windows apps, Shih said.
Microsoft made other mistakes too, he said, noting that one of the most popular apps for Windows 8 is a program to bring back the classic Start menu. (With Windows 8.1, Microsoft is itself bringing back the Start button to the Windows desktop.)
But Shih isn’t giving up on Windows products. The company recently introduced the Transformer Book Trio, which runs both Windows and Android, and the company is evaluating building smaller 10-inch and eight-inch Windows tablets.
“My personal opinion is the 10-inch may make more sense,” Shih said.
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#4629221 Posted on: 07/31/2013 07:14 PM
With the search feature, I practically have no icons on desktop because is so more fast to do a search than actually find the shortcut.
My desktop has been empty since Windows Vista thanks to the start menu. On Windows 7, the only thing on my desktop is the recycle bin.
With the search feature, I practically have no icons on desktop because is so more fast to do a search than actually find the shortcut.
My desktop has been empty since Windows Vista thanks to the start menu. On Windows 7, the only thing on my desktop is the recycle bin.
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#4629233 Posted on: 07/31/2013 07:28 PM
Zune wasn't exactly a failure but in timing.
It was a good product backed with a good service and plans, but it was released when people were too entrenched with iPods.
If it were to be launched these days, I'm pretty sure it would gain traction more than it had, riding on the 'I had enough of Apple' wave.
If anything, Microsoft has a habit of releasing things too early ever since Bob.
*inb4 'releasing too early' innuendo*
This. I bought a Zune HD and it is in every way better than either iPod Touch I have (2nd and 4th generation). The only thing the Zune HD does not have is bluetooth which kind of sucks because I can't stream the music to my car radio.
Zune wasn't exactly a failure but in timing.
It was a good product backed with a good service and plans, but it was released when people were too entrenched with iPods.
If it were to be launched these days, I'm pretty sure it would gain traction more than it had, riding on the 'I had enough of Apple' wave.
If anything, Microsoft has a habit of releasing things too early ever since Bob.
*inb4 'releasing too early' innuendo*
This. I bought a Zune HD and it is in every way better than either iPod Touch I have (2nd and 4th generation). The only thing the Zune HD does not have is bluetooth which kind of sucks because I can't stream the music to my car radio.
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#4629257 Posted on: 07/31/2013 08:06 PM
Windows RT was made before Intel even had comparable products that could rival ARM in terms of battery life. Windows RT imo was a great idea but poorly timed and executed. If they didn't place those stupid restrictions on Windows RT, then RT would have been more successful.
As for dropping 32-bit versions, a lot of enterprise users would not be happy about that. Also, not all Intel Atom CPUs are sold as 64-bit ready, some are still 32-bit parts. There's still a good amount of internal enterprise software that are a mix of 16/32-bit components (I worked at a company who's stuck with XP due to incompatibilities caused by the security of Windows Vista/7/8. They also have a bit of 16-bit code left, they're in the middle of a rewrite when I was there).
I don't think 32-bit will be dropped until say Windows 10.
deltatux
Microsoft knows full well what Intel has in the pipeline, they work quite closely together (hell, their offices here in Haifa are actually touching...). Intel had plenty of Atom's even before the Tegra 3 era that would have fit the bill quite nicely. Microsoft wanted to try to get in the ARM space but instead of pricing the product normally, it tried to go the premium route and even priced it above the iPad, a major no-no. Everyone in the industry saw the death of the Surface RT the moment it was released as it was.
Which companies do you know that upgraded to Windows 8? Like you said, almost everyone is still stuck on XP and are just starting to migrate to Windows 7. The 64-bit in that case, is a non-issue. By the time most companies decide to upgrade again, Windows 11 will probably be here.
Windows RT was made before Intel even had comparable products that could rival ARM in terms of battery life. Windows RT imo was a great idea but poorly timed and executed. If they didn't place those stupid restrictions on Windows RT, then RT would have been more successful.
As for dropping 32-bit versions, a lot of enterprise users would not be happy about that. Also, not all Intel Atom CPUs are sold as 64-bit ready, some are still 32-bit parts. There's still a good amount of internal enterprise software that are a mix of 16/32-bit components (I worked at a company who's stuck with XP due to incompatibilities caused by the security of Windows Vista/7/8. They also have a bit of 16-bit code left, they're in the middle of a rewrite when I was there).
I don't think 32-bit will be dropped until say Windows 10.
deltatux
Microsoft knows full well what Intel has in the pipeline, they work quite closely together (hell, their offices here in Haifa are actually touching...). Intel had plenty of Atom's even before the Tegra 3 era that would have fit the bill quite nicely. Microsoft wanted to try to get in the ARM space but instead of pricing the product normally, it tried to go the premium route and even priced it above the iPad, a major no-no. Everyone in the industry saw the death of the Surface RT the moment it was released as it was.
Which companies do you know that upgraded to Windows 8? Like you said, almost everyone is still stuck on XP and are just starting to migrate to Windows 7. The 64-bit in that case, is a non-issue. By the time most companies decide to upgrade again, Windows 11 will probably be here.
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#4629323 Posted on: 07/31/2013 09:18 PM
They should have dropped 32 bit in Windows 7, I was blown away they included a 32 bit version of 8. It's years late to nip it in the bud, that parasite is old and strong now.
That, and drop the 32-bit Windows once and for all. Nip 32-bit in the bud and lets move on already.
They should have dropped 32 bit in Windows 7, I was blown away they included a 32 bit version of 8. It's years late to nip it in the bud, that parasite is old and strong now.
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Zune wasn't exactly a failure but in timing.
It was a good product backed with a good service and plans, but it was released when people were too entrenched with iPods.
If it were to be launched these days, I'm pretty sure it would gain traction more than it had, riding on the 'I had enough of Apple' wave.
If anything, Microsoft has a habit of releasing things too early ever since Bob.
*inb4 'releasing too early' innuendo*