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ASUS Cascade Lake-X Core i9 10000X HEDT for Socket 2066 Listed - 18 cores, but 48 PCIe lanes
We like these little whoops moments. At an ASUS specification listing, they make mention of the Prime X299 Edition 30. You do wonder if that means 30 rehashes of the chipset :) Pun aside, the whoops moment is that they are listing the Core i9 10000 X-Series entry with 48 PCIe lanes.
Of course, everybody knows that Core i9 10000 X-Series is inbound as Intel has been talking about it ever since Computex, but this is the first appearance in a spec page of it. Interesting is that it is noted as a 48 lane PCIe 3.0 CPU, yes 3.0. The current top model Core i9 9980XE has 44 PCIe-lanes for the flagship model. So that's four more lanes from the processor.
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The 10000 series, with up to 18 cores, is based on Cascade Lake-X, which is a derivative Skylake-X at 14nm process. Thus far Intel has not made clear yet if the new processors are hardened for the recent vulnerabilities. If they are re-using a revamped Skylake-X architecture, that'll probably be the case. Intel will also be bumping up default memory frequency support towards DDR4-2933.
The document also mentions that a second m.2 slot works with a 'Core i9 10000 X-Series' processor, meaning. So Intel added four more lanes just for full speed x4 PCIe Gen3 M2 support. You will have noticed the new naming, Intel now is using five digits for their future model numbers much like the comet lake laptop procs announced earlier this week.
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#5703717 Posted on: 08/24/2019 09:55 AM
I was waiting to say this for ages ... Finally it's over 9000 !
I was waiting to say this for ages ... Finally it's over 9000 !
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#5703718 Posted on: 08/24/2019 10:02 AM
I know its a refresh after refresh right now , so no point buying the old tech but I am certain that when the true new gen comes out they will outperform about everything out there , it's the long wait ahead of us that is the problem , it's almost like they have left the doors open for the competition on purpose haha .
I know its a refresh after refresh right now , so no point buying the old tech but I am certain that when the true new gen comes out they will outperform about everything out there , it's the long wait ahead of us that is the problem , it's almost like they have left the doors open for the competition on purpose haha .
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#5703754 Posted on: 08/24/2019 01:22 PM
Wow.... My current configuration uses all of them available PCI-e lanes just for GPU.
I think I'm still waiting for TR3......
Wow.... My current configuration uses all of them available PCI-e lanes just for GPU.
I think I'm still waiting for TR3......
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#5703782 Posted on: 08/24/2019 03:12 PM
I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing, B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking.
Just imagine this: Intel x299 Mobo with TWO, yes TWO PLX chips costs 10$-20$ cheaper then MSI x570 Creation.
Its not about 10$, its about the fact that Intel which always more expensive and TWO PLX chips which costs like 30-50USD per chip and it still on par with AMD board
I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing, B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking.
Just imagine this: Intel x299 Mobo with TWO, yes TWO PLX chips costs 10$-20$ cheaper then MSI x570 Creation.
Its not about 10$, its about the fact that Intel which always more expensive and TWO PLX chips which costs like 30-50USD per chip and it still on par with AMD board
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#5703790 Posted on: 08/24/2019 04:02 PM
"I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking".
Hehe that made me laugh, Intel fanboy.
"I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking".
Hehe that made me laugh, Intel fanboy.
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#5703805 Posted on: 08/24/2019 05:19 PM
Good stuff, still compatible with 2066 socket. I bet you Intel will undercut Ryzen 12 and 16 Core with these. It will be priced very competitive. If you already have 2066 socket board, you don't need new one.
Good stuff, still compatible with 2066 socket. I bet you Intel will undercut Ryzen 12 and 16 Core with these. It will be priced very competitive. If you already have 2066 socket board, you don't need new one.
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#5703810 Posted on: 08/24/2019 05:30 PM
if those will be priced similarly as amd, for respective number of cores, every fanboy can be happy. Everyone else can have a choice.
if those will be priced similarly as amd, for respective number of cores, every fanboy can be happy. Everyone else can have a choice.
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#5703818 Posted on: 08/24/2019 06:17 PM
circa 2019, 18 Cores - 48 PCI-E lanes "HEDT" mmm nahh
circa 2019, 18 Cores - 48 PCI-E lanes "HEDT" mmm nahh
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#5703856 Posted on: 08/24/2019 09:44 PM
Think i'll wait for PCI-E 5.0 and DDR5 RAM before i upgrade next. Already running a i7 9800X on X299.
Think i'll wait for PCI-E 5.0 and DDR5 RAM before i upgrade next. Already running a i7 9800X on X299.
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#5703881 Posted on: 08/25/2019 12:34 AM
New Intel Core i9 10000X HEDT, Ultra EXT-2 Alpha with DLCs
New Intel Core i9 10000X HEDT, Ultra EXT-2 Alpha with DLCs
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#5703892 Posted on: 08/25/2019 02:39 AM
I would hope you don't need a new board. Cascade Lake-X is hardly any different than Skylake-X.
I will bet you a brand new i9 10000 series PC, with all the bells and whistles you want, that this will not undercut even the Ryzen 16 cores (I assume you mean Zen 2). I have no idea where you're getting the impression this will be priced competitively but that's possibly the most absurd thing you've said. It might be priced competitively against the 7980XE, but not against AMD.
Whether or not it will outperform a Zen2 Ryzen 12 or 16 core... maybe, but the additional cost (which again, will be higher) and power consumption isn't going to be especially appealing.
Good stuff, still compatible with 2066 socket. I bet you Intel will undercut Ryzen 12 and 16 Core with these. It will be priced very competitive. If you already have 2066 socket board, you don't need new one.
I would hope you don't need a new board. Cascade Lake-X is hardly any different than Skylake-X.
I will bet you a brand new i9 10000 series PC, with all the bells and whistles you want, that this will not undercut even the Ryzen 16 cores (I assume you mean Zen 2). I have no idea where you're getting the impression this will be priced competitively but that's possibly the most absurd thing you've said. It might be priced competitively against the 7980XE, but not against AMD.
Whether or not it will outperform a Zen2 Ryzen 12 or 16 core... maybe, but the additional cost (which again, will be higher) and power consumption isn't going to be especially appealing.
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#5703910 Posted on: 08/25/2019 05:36 AM
Threadripper is all about many cores, but Intel x299 is for the "full package". Many cores AND low latency.
I have Threadripper for F@H, rendering and Areca raid storage, but my workstation is x299 overclocket with Optane 900p
x299 is even perfect for gaming when overclocked :p
Different use
HEDT: I don't care about prize. It's all about performance. For me.
Yaaahhhwwwnnnnn.... Oh, no new socket?... I'm impressed!... Price? 1.5-2K??..... no thanks... xD - sarcasm off: let's wait & see, what the 32c-TR will deliver & then lets talk again. ;-)
Threadripper is all about many cores, but Intel x299 is for the "full package". Many cores AND low latency.
I have Threadripper for F@H, rendering and Areca raid storage, but my workstation is x299 overclocket with Optane 900p
x299 is even perfect for gaming when overclocked :p
Different use
HEDT: I don't care about prize. It's all about performance. For me.
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#5703912 Posted on: 08/25/2019 06:26 AM
I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing, B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking.
Just imagine this: Intel x299 Mobo with TWO, yes TWO PLX chips costs 10$-20$ cheaper then MSI x570 Creation.
Its not about 10$, its about the fact that Intel which always more expensive and TWO PLX chips which costs like 30-50USD per chip and it still on par with AMD board
U gud m8?
Lately AMD doesn't have those listed bugs, and EVEN Those there were only because of faulty PCIe4 on older motherboards with old chipset.
No matter (almost) how good the 10000x series will be, it will be almost impossible to win against 3950X
I hope its priced at least cheaper then before so i wont have to buy AMD 16 core money losing, B stock CPU.
I rather buy 14 core Intel with PCIe Gen 3, then AMD 16 core filled with bugs, WHEA errors, file corruption, fake turbo boost clocks and zero overclocking.
Just imagine this: Intel x299 Mobo with TWO, yes TWO PLX chips costs 10$-20$ cheaper then MSI x570 Creation.
Its not about 10$, its about the fact that Intel which always more expensive and TWO PLX chips which costs like 30-50USD per chip and it still on par with AMD board
U gud m8?
Lately AMD doesn't have those listed bugs, and EVEN Those there were only because of faulty PCIe4 on older motherboards with old chipset.
No matter (almost) how good the 10000x series will be, it will be almost impossible to win against 3950X
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#5703913 Posted on: 08/25/2019 06:29 AM
U gud m8?
Lately AMD doesn't have those listed bugs, and EVEN Those there were only because of faulty PCIe4 on older motherboards with old chipset.
No matter (almost) how good the 10000x series will be, it will be almost impossible to win against 3950X
Win in what?
U gud m8?
Lately AMD doesn't have those listed bugs, and EVEN Those there were only because of faulty PCIe4 on older motherboards with old chipset.
No matter (almost) how good the 10000x series will be, it will be almost impossible to win against 3950X
Win in what?
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Yaaahhhwwwnnnnn.... Oh, no new socket?... I'm impressed!... Price? 1.5-2K??..... no thanks... xD - sarcasm off: let's wait & see, what the 32c-TR will deliver & then lets talk again. ;-)