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ASUS ROG Matrix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti features integrated pump & radiator
The ROG Matrix integrates a pump and radiator under the shroud, enabling closed-loop cooling without requiring more space than an air-cooled card
ASUS Republic of Gamers today announced the Matrix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti graphics card. The Matrix name is reserved for exceptional products that leap forward, exceeding innovation and performance expectations. The ROG Matrix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti is the latest graphics card to earn this pedigree by introducing Infinity Loop, a unique all-in-one closed-loop cooling system that is integrated into the card’s 3-slot footprint. Each Matrix GPU has been binned and tuned to deliver the best out-of-the-box TuringTM experience, raising the bar for graphics horsepower in small chassis and air-cooled builds.
- The Matrix features a unique all-in-one closed-loop cooling system
- The 3-slot footprint brings previously impossible performance to small chassis and air-cooled builds
- Each card is binned and tuned to deliver top out-of-the-box clock speeds
Developing the Matrix’s Infinity Loop cooling technology presented many new design challenges for the team and took more than five rounds of prototyping with industry partners. The result is a unique solution that seamlessly integrates pump, tubing and radiator under the shroud. Infinity Loop beats competing hybrid designs with 120mm radiators and goes head to head with 240mm radiator configurations, all in the space of three slots.
Binned and Tuned
In order to target extreme out-of-the-box clock speeds, the custom circuit board from ROG Strix cards is used for Matrix, allowing an aggressive binning process that pushes the GPU core to 1815MHz and memory to GDDR6-14800MHz — overclocks that the only the top 5% of cards can achieve. Tailored BIOS profiles based on the new clock targets and control curves for the three Axial-tech fans are then loaded, ready for new owners to hone with GPU Tweak II software.
- Engine Clock (OC Mode):1815MHz (Boost Clock), 1350MHz (Base Clock)
- Engine Clock (Gaming Mode):1800MHz (Boost Clock), 1350MHz (Base Clock)
- 11GB GDDR6 Memory
- Memory Clock: 14800 MHz
- TDP 300 Watt
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#5624426 Posted on: 01/07/2019 07:43 PM
on other site price is mentioned ... It is expected that the card will cost 1,600 USD .. good god :-D
on other site price is mentioned ... It is expected that the card will cost 1,600 USD .. good god :-D
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#5624429 Posted on: 01/07/2019 07:50 PM
Ouch, that's bloody expensive.
Ouch, that's bloody expensive.
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#5624437 Posted on: 01/07/2019 08:13 PM
1600 doesn't shock me really.
Here in EU all 2080 TI with nearly same "out of box" performance cost 1475€ Which equals in roughly 1500$
And i don't wanna know how much research was involved to get this thing working.
Will await review with pleasure.
1600 doesn't shock me really.
Here in EU all 2080 TI with nearly same "out of box" performance cost 1475€ Which equals in roughly 1500$
And i don't wanna know how much research was involved to get this thing working.
Will await review with pleasure.
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#5624443 Posted on: 01/07/2019 08:22 PM
Well, anyone with the corresponding money amount, should always aim for the top pick among its class. If I could afford an RTX 2080ti, this would be my choice.
Well, anyone with the corresponding money amount, should always aim for the top pick among its class. If I could afford an RTX 2080ti, this would be my choice.
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#5624450 Posted on: 01/07/2019 08:33 PM
Looks like a pretty pointless card IMO. I would rather the simplicity of the current strix models. Don't feel like much cooling difference is actually here.
Looks like a pretty pointless card IMO. I would rather the simplicity of the current strix models. Don't feel like much cooling difference is actually here.
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#5624490 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:27 PM
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
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#5624516 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:55 PM
this cooling system remembers me this:
The cooling performance wasn't that good...
this cooling system remembers me this:
The cooling performance wasn't that good...
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#5624518 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:58 PM
I didnt see matrix branding since 780ti.
I didnt see matrix branding since 780ti.
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#5624538 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:41 PM
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
This is my thinking as well.
Since the weakest point of any watercooling solution is the water, in that it acts as an additional thermal interface between the heat source and cooling solution, this feels more like marketing than innovation. As you say the gain is from being able to run a larger fin stack/radiator/fan setup in a more advantageous position.
With the fans still on the card, blowing in the same direction as any air cooler would I can't imagine why this would be better than a conventional heat pipe array + fin stack.
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
This is my thinking as well.
Since the weakest point of any watercooling solution is the water, in that it acts as an additional thermal interface between the heat source and cooling solution, this feels more like marketing than innovation. As you say the gain is from being able to run a larger fin stack/radiator/fan setup in a more advantageous position.
With the fans still on the card, blowing in the same direction as any air cooler would I can't imagine why this would be better than a conventional heat pipe array + fin stack.
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#5624583 Posted on: 01/08/2019 02:07 AM
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
The other strong point of traditional liquid cooling is to be able to transfer the heat straight out of the PC case, with the radiator attached to an exhaust grating. This video card obviously will not do that. So, yeah, I'd be surprised if that thing was significantly better than a proper custom air cooler.
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
The other strong point of traditional liquid cooling is to be able to transfer the heat straight out of the PC case, with the radiator attached to an exhaust grating. This video card obviously will not do that. So, yeah, I'd be surprised if that thing was significantly better than a proper custom air cooler.
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#5624588 Posted on: 01/08/2019 02:16 AM
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
Exactly, seems like it's made for suckers. I won't say heatpipe would be better, I think they would both be the same, or the water be 1° cooler. But nothing significant either way. As you said, water is good because you can move the heat to a larger radiator, the radiator on the card will be basically the same as a heatpipe radiator, so no help. Just have to wait for a review to see what the reality is, even though there is no way in hell I would ever buy one of these
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
Exactly, seems like it's made for suckers. I won't say heatpipe would be better, I think they would both be the same, or the water be 1° cooler. But nothing significant either way. As you said, water is good because you can move the heat to a larger radiator, the radiator on the card will be basically the same as a heatpipe radiator, so no help. Just have to wait for a review to see what the reality is, even though there is no way in hell I would ever buy one of these
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#5624628 Posted on: 01/08/2019 05:41 AM
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
It may be inefficient to pack everything in tightly like this, but, the purpose of using watercooling is 1: pull heat away from the heat source quicker than heatpipes/other sources due to faster moving working fluid and 2: better heat capacity through the properties of the working fluid used and quantity of working fluid. A system like this will have much more heat capacity in it's working fluid than a standard heatsink. But because of how small the system it is and how enclosed it is, it remains to be seen how effective it will be. I believe it will be more effective that standard heatsink/fan setups, but fall short of "hybrid"/AIO setups, and far behind proper full liquid loops that have huge amounts of heat capacity and working fluid speed when properly set up.
Watercooling does not make sense like this, watercooling is not as effective as heatpipe cooling when size and cost is Compared.
Watercoolings only strong side is that heat can be transferred to a larger cooler, that otherwise would not fit in the place available or to move heat away from sensitive things.
This will sell for sure, but i am willing to bet that a heatpipe cooler the same size will be better.
It may be inefficient to pack everything in tightly like this, but, the purpose of using watercooling is 1: pull heat away from the heat source quicker than heatpipes/other sources due to faster moving working fluid and 2: better heat capacity through the properties of the working fluid used and quantity of working fluid. A system like this will have much more heat capacity in it's working fluid than a standard heatsink. But because of how small the system it is and how enclosed it is, it remains to be seen how effective it will be. I believe it will be more effective that standard heatsink/fan setups, but fall short of "hybrid"/AIO setups, and far behind proper full liquid loops that have huge amounts of heat capacity and working fluid speed when properly set up.
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#5624645 Posted on: 01/08/2019 07:41 AM
I'd definitely like to see a review of this card to see if it can back up it's claims, and also because it's a new cooling concept. My first impressions were that it wouldn't be able to compete with existing closed loop liquid cooled GPUs, but they say it betters 120mm radiator CLC's and it equals 240mm radiator CLC's, I'd like to see that put to the test. Given the fact that this new cooling concept fits it all neatly into one card, then this is an interesting proposition, although one draw back in contrast to existing CLC cooled GPU's - with those existing CLC GPU's you can choose to place the radiator directly as an exhaust, thereby exhausting all hot air outside of the case rather than into the case, so this new card lacks that ability. I'd also be curious as to the longevity of this cooling loop & if it would last the life of the card.
I'd definitely like to see a review of this card to see if it can back up it's claims, and also because it's a new cooling concept. My first impressions were that it wouldn't be able to compete with existing closed loop liquid cooled GPUs, but they say it betters 120mm radiator CLC's and it equals 240mm radiator CLC's, I'd like to see that put to the test. Given the fact that this new cooling concept fits it all neatly into one card, then this is an interesting proposition, although one draw back in contrast to existing CLC cooled GPU's - with those existing CLC GPU's you can choose to place the radiator directly as an exhaust, thereby exhausting all hot air outside of the case rather than into the case, so this new card lacks that ability. I'd also be curious as to the longevity of this cooling loop & if it would last the life of the card.
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#5624647 Posted on: 01/08/2019 07:51 AM
1600 doesn't shock me really.
Here in EU all 2080 TI with nearly same "out of box" performance cost 1475€ Which equals in roughly 1500$
And i don't wanna know how much research was involved to get this thing working.
Will await review with pleasure.
They are closing to 2k price and jumped over old titan.
Will be funny how nvidia will cry about low seling later.
1600 doesn't shock me really.
Here in EU all 2080 TI with nearly same "out of box" performance cost 1475€ Which equals in roughly 1500$
And i don't wanna know how much research was involved to get this thing working.
Will await review with pleasure.
They are closing to 2k price and jumped over old titan.
Will be funny how nvidia will cry about low seling later.
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That's a really cool idea. I'd love to see the cooling performance. If this works well, it may end up being the way forward for high end cards in the future.