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ASUS also adds Core i 9000 Support to BIOSes
ASUS has released BIOS updates for its 300-series motherboards, adding support for the Intel Core 9000 series processor family. The latest BIOS updates are available for download now from the official ASUS website.
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#5571599 Posted on: 08/07/2018 10:41 AM
shame this didnt happen with the 8000 series and 170/270 motherboards.
shame this didnt happen with the 8000 series and 170/270 motherboards.
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#5571603 Posted on: 08/07/2018 10:48 AM
WTH... That's MOBO and my BIOS (UPDATED just yesterday)
If someone had told me that the next generation Intel CPU would fit my motherboard, I would have laughed at them.
Sometimes they do... as with X99 and Haswell as well as Broadwell support. What makes the difference, which ones get an update to support the next CPU line, and which one not, probably lies with Intel's technical marketing
WTH... That's MOBO and my BIOS (UPDATED just yesterday)
If someone had told me that the next generation Intel CPU would fit my motherboard, I would have laughed at them.
Sometimes they do... as with X99 and Haswell as well as Broadwell support. What makes the difference, which ones get an update to support the next CPU line, and which one not, probably lies with Intel's technical marketing
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#5571617 Posted on: 08/07/2018 11:22 AM
Exactly my thoughts... By the way, what would happen if someone tries to update an Z170/270 MB with a BIOS from a Z370??? I know this is a stupid question but i´m curious.
shame this didnt happen with the 8000 series and 170/270 motherboards.
Exactly my thoughts... By the way, what would happen if someone tries to update an Z170/270 MB with a BIOS from a Z370??? I know this is a stupid question but i´m curious.
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#5571620 Posted on: 08/07/2018 11:37 AM
you could try it and let us know? ...
Exactly my thoughts... By the way, what would happen if someone tries to update an Z170/270 MB with a BIOS from a Z370??? I know this is a stupid question but i´m curious.
you could try it and let us know? ...
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#5571638 Posted on: 08/07/2018 12:08 PM
You'd have your self a brand new paper weight
but in all seriousness it is possible to modify the bios of a z170 board along with shorting 1 pin on the cpu, to get 6core coffelake working on z170 and z270. There are even reports that 6 core cpus work on DDR3 z170 motherboards.
Exactly my thoughts... By the way, what would happen if someone tries to update an Z170/270 MB with a BIOS from a Z370??? I know this is a stupid question but i´m curious.
You'd have your self a brand new paper weight
but in all seriousness it is possible to modify the bios of a z170 board along with shorting 1 pin on the cpu, to get 6core coffelake working on z170 and z270. There are even reports that 6 core cpus work on DDR3 z170 motherboards.
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#5571701 Posted on: 08/07/2018 04:06 PM
You'd have your self a brand new paper weight
but in all seriousness it is possible to modify the bios of a z170 board along with shorting 1 pin on the cpu, to get 6core coffelake working on z170 and z270. There are even reports that 6 core cpus work on DDR3 z170 motherboards.
I'd sooner get a new motherboard than try shorting the pin on a new CPU.
You'd have your self a brand new paper weight
but in all seriousness it is possible to modify the bios of a z170 board along with shorting 1 pin on the cpu, to get 6core coffelake working on z170 and z270. There are even reports that 6 core cpus work on DDR3 z170 motherboards.
I'd sooner get a new motherboard than try shorting the pin on a new CPU.
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#5571714 Posted on: 08/07/2018 04:34 PM
So happy i got the Asus Rog Z370-H, il be able to swap the 8700k for the 9700k at a later date
So happy i got the Asus Rog Z370-H, il be able to swap the 8700k for the 9700k at a later date
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#5571792 Posted on: 08/07/2018 07:35 PM
This is old news the bios has been available for almost 1 month now.
I had personally checked the bios file using AMIBCP tool and it already had 8 Core 9000 series support.
It just only got officially confirmed today that's all.
Anyway nice to have an option for an 8 core upgrade down the road.
This is old news the bios has been available for almost 1 month now.
I had personally checked the bios file using AMIBCP tool and it already had 8 Core 9000 series support.
It just only got officially confirmed today that's all.
Anyway nice to have an option for an 8 core upgrade down the road.
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#5571829 Posted on: 08/07/2018 11:15 PM
well that new motherboard will be shorting that pin to ground, which is why you need to do it on z170 inorder for the cpu to be bootable, its little things like this that make the cpu "incompatible". Im not sure if anyone has started making stickers yet ,like for lga771-775 , but it would be pretty easy to do.
I'd sooner get a new motherboard than try shorting the pin on a new CPU.
well that new motherboard will be shorting that pin to ground, which is why you need to do it on z170 inorder for the cpu to be bootable, its little things like this that make the cpu "incompatible". Im not sure if anyone has started making stickers yet ,like for lga771-775 , but it would be pretty easy to do.
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#5571903 Posted on: 08/08/2018 11:02 AM
WTH... That's MOBO and my BIOS (UPDATED just yesterday)
If someone had told me that the next generation Intel CPU would fit my motherboard, I would have laughed at them.AFAIK, "fitting" mostly hasn't been the issue with the past couple of Zx70 Intel chipsets (and mainboards based on them). It was basically a matter of getting the microcode, management engine, UEFI GOP driver, etc. and BIOS updated to support newer CPUs (as long as the board is able to provide enough power to support additional cores, etc.). The main difference is that for these new CPUs meant for the "new" Z390 chipset and the "old" Z370 chipsets manufacturers provide official updates to officially support these CPUs, whereas before you would have to rely on crafty modders to get your new CPU working on your old mainboard.
WTH... That's MOBO and my BIOS (UPDATED just yesterday)
If someone had told me that the next generation Intel CPU would fit my motherboard, I would have laughed at them.AFAIK, "fitting" mostly hasn't been the issue with the past couple of Zx70 Intel chipsets (and mainboards based on them). It was basically a matter of getting the microcode, management engine, UEFI GOP driver, etc. and BIOS updated to support newer CPUs (as long as the board is able to provide enough power to support additional cores, etc.). The main difference is that for these new CPUs meant for the "new" Z390 chipset and the "old" Z370 chipsets manufacturers provide official updates to officially support these CPUs, whereas before you would have to rely on crafty modders to get your new CPU working on your old mainboard.
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#5572050 Posted on: 08/08/2018 07:56 PM
Why? Doesn't seem like an ideal upgrade path for an 8700K owner. I have an 8700K and that is definitely not the path I would take. 9900K or wait for this 8700K owner. Thats like "upgrading" from a 7700K to an 8600K its just not really an upgrade. There are some instances where software enjoys the HT over having all real cores. 9700K over 8700K seems even worse than 7700k to 8600k. That is 12 threads vs 8 whereas 7700K to 8600K is 8 threads to 6 and the difference still isn't huge. I think the 9700K will be ideal for those coming from older generations even then I will be very curious to see how it stacks up to the 8700K in various scenarios. I am curious if you would share why this seems like a good upgrade to you? Is it the supposed soldier?
So happy i got the Asus Rog Z370-H, il be able to swap the 8700k for the 9700k at a later date
Why? Doesn't seem like an ideal upgrade path for an 8700K owner. I have an 8700K and that is definitely not the path I would take. 9900K or wait for this 8700K owner. Thats like "upgrading" from a 7700K to an 8600K its just not really an upgrade. There are some instances where software enjoys the HT over having all real cores. 9700K over 8700K seems even worse than 7700k to 8600k. That is 12 threads vs 8 whereas 7700K to 8600K is 8 threads to 6 and the difference still isn't huge. I think the 9700K will be ideal for those coming from older generations even then I will be very curious to see how it stacks up to the 8700K in various scenarios. I am curious if you would share why this seems like a good upgrade to you? Is it the supposed soldier?
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#5572052 Posted on: 08/08/2018 07:58 PM
So my thing is will it be full 9000 series support? I feel like with Intel I shouldn't get too excited about the possibility of running a 9900K on my Z370 hero. There is that possibility that they drop a bomb on our hopes and 9000 series support stops before 8 core or only goes through 9700K tops lol. Hopefully overclocking is good with a z370/9000 series combo provided you have a board with better VRM. Anyways, just my thoughts.
So my thing is will it be full 9000 series support? I feel like with Intel I shouldn't get too excited about the possibility of running a 9900K on my Z370 hero. There is that possibility that they drop a bomb on our hopes and 9000 series support stops before 8 core or only goes through 9700K tops lol. Hopefully overclocking is good with a z370/9000 series combo provided you have a board with better VRM. Anyways, just my thoughts.
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#5572133 Posted on: 08/09/2018 04:45 AM
It's funny how Intel changes course and doesn't require you to buy a new motherboard for the upcoming processor generation, the same usual suspects who criticized them non-stop are still criticizing them... or are completely silent. Looks like those who were saying such criticism was agenda driven and not objectively determined on a case by case basis were right.
It's funny how Intel changes course and doesn't require you to buy a new motherboard for the upcoming processor generation, the same usual suspects who criticized them non-stop are still criticizing them... or are completely silent. Looks like those who were saying such criticism was agenda driven and not objectively determined on a case by case basis were right.
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#5572290 Posted on: 08/09/2018 05:23 PM
My pc is only for gaming mostly, and i dont care if the performance is the same, aslong as its not worse, i want to get rid of the toaster 8700k that i have, few games iv seen spikes into 90c and thats with a great air cooler and air flow in my new case, and im not into delidding a cpu so if the 9700k has got all the temps sorted and performance is same or better thanks to the extra 2 core im all happy to switch, il sell the 8700k for £150 or less on ebay when the time comes
Why? Doesn't seem like an ideal upgrade path for an 8700K owner. I have an 8700K and that is definitely not the path I would take. 9900K or wait for this 8700K owner. Thats like "upgrading" from a 7700K to an 8600K its just not really an upgrade. There are some instances where software enjoys the HT over having all real cores. 9700K over 8700K seems even worse than 7700k to 8600k. That is 12 threads vs 8 whereas 7700K to 8600K is 8 threads to 6 and the difference still isn't huge. I think the 9700K will be ideal for those coming from older generations even then I will be very curious to see how it stacks up to the 8700K in various scenarios. I am curious if you would share why this seems like a good upgrade to you? Is it the supposed soldier?
My pc is only for gaming mostly, and i dont care if the performance is the same, aslong as its not worse, i want to get rid of the toaster 8700k that i have, few games iv seen spikes into 90c and thats with a great air cooler and air flow in my new case, and im not into delidding a cpu so if the 9700k has got all the temps sorted and performance is same or better thanks to the extra 2 core im all happy to switch, il sell the 8700k for £150 or less on ebay when the time comes
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WTH... That's MOBO and my BIOS (UPDATED just yesterday)
If someone had told me that the next generation Intel CPU would fit my motherboard, I would have laughed at them.