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Assassin's Creed Unity not running well on AMD hardware
And though this is a console port, Ubisoft blames AMD for the technical issues in Assassins Creed Unity. Kinda weird since all the consoles run an AMD APU eh ? AMD Radeon users report texture issues, low frame rates and overall glitching problems. Ubisoft claims the issues are related to select AMD CPU and GPU combinations, which points to a lack of testing on AMD hardware. So all of the sudden its AMD's fault ...
The main root cause of the issue isn't AMD or for that matter Nvidia who's mid-range products run into issues as well, it's Ubisoft. The DX11 game currently is pushing roughly 50,000 draw calls on the DirectX 11 API. DX11 is designed to handle ~10,000 peak draw calls. Mantle and DirectX 12 are designed to handle that number, but not DX11.
Ubisoft just started responding to this on their forums:
We are aware that the graphics performance of Assassin’s Creed Unity on PC may be adversely affected by certain AMD CPU and GPU configurations. This should not affect the vast majority of PC players, but rest assured that AMD and Ubisoft are continuing to work together closely to resolve the issue, and will provide more information as soon as it is available.
Really Ubisoft ? Next time spend some quality control on AMD Graphics cards with your multi-million investment ?? Simply put its once again a bad port for the PC Platform that is not rather well optimized title.
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#4958432 Posted on: 11/13/2014 11:50 PM
I find that excuse SUPER HILARIOUS, Last I check the game was made for CONSOLES first and consoles that are AMD, yet the PC version which is INTEL/NVIDIA too suffer from all the same problems.
Query, Does Ubisoft think people are stupid? Do there PR people really believe the stories they give us?
Basically they saying AMD HW is the reason why the game suffers. So are they say the AMD HW in the consoles was bad idea? and in turn makes ALL platforms suffer? even when PC version dont strictly use AMD HW and suffer from same issues. or do they even know?
I miss the days when QA of games was actually worth damn, these days stuff isnt fixed to after a release and that is if they even bother to fix things.
I find that excuse SUPER HILARIOUS, Last I check the game was made for CONSOLES first and consoles that are AMD, yet the PC version which is INTEL/NVIDIA too suffer from all the same problems.
Query, Does Ubisoft think people are stupid? Do there PR people really believe the stories they give us?
Basically they saying AMD HW is the reason why the game suffers. So are they say the AMD HW in the consoles was bad idea? and in turn makes ALL platforms suffer? even when PC version dont strictly use AMD HW and suffer from same issues. or do they even know?
I miss the days when QA of games was actually worth damn, these days stuff isnt fixed to after a release and that is if they even bother to fix things.
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#4958433 Posted on: 11/13/2014 11:52 PM
I'm not really seeing this part in the Ubisoft forum topic.
Ubisoft’s Assassins Creed Unity has had a buggy launch to say the least, what with all the texture popping, low frame rates and entity glitching problems.A Ubisoft Public Relations Manager has recently pinned the blame solely on AMD GPU and CPU configurations. The actual reason, however, lies inside the gritty details of bad optimization and porting.
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/946541-AMD-Graphics-Cards-Compatibility-with-Assassin-s-Creed-Unity
We are aware that the graphics performance of Assassin’s Creed Unity on PC may be adversely affected by certain AMD CPU and GPU configurations. This should not affect the vast majority of PC players, but rest assured that AMD and Ubisoft are continuing to work together closely to resolve the issue, and will provide more information as soon as it is available.
I'm not really seeing this part in the Ubisoft forum topic.
Ubisoft’s Assassins Creed Unity has had a buggy launch to say the least, what with all the texture popping, low frame rates and entity glitching problems.A Ubisoft Public Relations Manager has recently pinned the blame solely on AMD GPU and CPU configurations. The actual reason, however, lies inside the gritty details of bad optimization and porting.
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/946541-AMD-Graphics-Cards-Compatibility-with-Assassin-s-Creed-Unity
We are aware that the graphics performance of Assassin’s Creed Unity on PC may be adversely affected by certain AMD CPU and GPU configurations. This should not affect the vast majority of PC players, but rest assured that AMD and Ubisoft are continuing to work together closely to resolve the issue, and will provide more information as soon as it is available.
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#4958434 Posted on: 11/13/2014 11:52 PM
They will. Look at how well EA sells games while apparently being so hated.
Ppl won't accept this crap any longer.
They will. Look at how well EA sells games while apparently being so hated.
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#4958442 Posted on: 11/14/2014 12:01 AM
I would think AMD PR would have field day with UBISOFT for blaming their HW for UBISOFT failures.
I would think AMD PR would have field day with UBISOFT for blaming their HW for UBISOFT failures.
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#4958445 Posted on: 11/14/2014 12:03 AM
No. Ubifoot are the only ones to blame here. The last game that i personally consider to be of quality in both gameplay and gfx with proper performance from what is actually being displayed on screen..would have to be Splinter Cell Chaos Theory.
Seriously, the ps360 launched and Ubi just went full retard.
No. Ubifoot are the only ones to blame here. The last game that i personally consider to be of quality in both gameplay and gfx with proper performance from what is actually being displayed on screen..would have to be Splinter Cell Chaos Theory.
Seriously, the ps360 launched and Ubi just went full retard.
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#4958457 Posted on: 11/14/2014 12:33 AM
I thought Dx11 is limited to ~ 16-18k calls, not 10k.. Well if game is sending 50k calls then yeah sux.. I would blame MS too -_-
OpenGL4 has ~26k calls, dx12 apparently like mantle up to 60-90k calls..
I thought Dx11 is limited to ~ 16-18k calls, not 10k.. Well if game is sending 50k calls then yeah sux.. I would blame MS too -_-
OpenGL4 has ~26k calls, dx12 apparently like mantle up to 60-90k calls..
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#4958480 Posted on: 11/14/2014 01:15 AM
Seeing that the game is running bad on consoles too all blame must be on Ubisoft.
I thought Dx11 is limited to ~ 16-18k calls, not 10k.. Well if game is sending 50k calls then yeah sux.. I would blame MS too -_-
OpenGL4 has ~26k calls, dx12 apparently like mantle up to 60-90k calls..
This gives some insight into the DX11 CPU overhead
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/03/16/farewell-to-directx/2
Seeing that the game is running bad on consoles too all blame must be on Ubisoft.
I thought Dx11 is limited to ~ 16-18k calls, not 10k.. Well if game is sending 50k calls then yeah sux.. I would blame MS too -_-
OpenGL4 has ~26k calls, dx12 apparently like mantle up to 60-90k calls..
This gives some insight into the DX11 CPU overhead
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/03/16/farewell-to-directx/2
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#4958492 Posted on: 11/14/2014 01:50 AM
This is what happens when a series jumps the shark and becomes a yearly cash grab.
This is what happens when a series jumps the shark and becomes a yearly cash grab.
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#4958501 Posted on: 11/14/2014 02:16 AM
And gamers are just as much to blame as they kept buying and re-ordering. Dont know why they think they now have the right to complain either.
This is what happens when a series jumps the shark and becomes a yearly cash grab.
And gamers are just as much to blame as they kept buying and re-ordering. Dont know why they think they now have the right to complain either.
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#4958502 Posted on: 11/14/2014 02:20 AM
pretty please, where is Ubi blaming AMD; my BS-attention span being kinda short
pretty please, where is Ubi blaming AMD; my BS-attention span being kinda short
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#4958503 Posted on: 11/14/2014 02:21 AM
I have not bought a AC games since AC II it got boring to me, hell i never even bother to finish AC II , either way this excuse from ubisoft is almost as bad as the crap EA pulls.
And gamers are just as much to blame as they kept buying and re-ordering. Dont know why they think they now have the right to complain either.
I have not bought a AC games since AC II it got boring to me, hell i never even bother to finish AC II , either way this excuse from ubisoft is almost as bad as the crap EA pulls.
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#4958530 Posted on: 11/14/2014 03:25 AM
If the game is trying to issue 50K+ drawcalls, then the issue is solely the fault of Ubisoft. Ubisoft knows the limitations of DirectX.
If they're intentionally trying to issue more drawcalls than DirectX can handle, it doesn't really matter. NVidia's hardware won't do any better than AMD's if Ubisoft is really trying to issue 50K drawcalls. They both have the same drawcall limit....
If the game is trying to issue 50K+ drawcalls, then the issue is solely the fault of Ubisoft. Ubisoft knows the limitations of DirectX.
I thought it was a TWIMTBP game. 
If they're intentionally trying to issue more drawcalls than DirectX can handle, it doesn't really matter. NVidia's hardware won't do any better than AMD's if Ubisoft is really trying to issue 50K drawcalls. They both have the same drawcall limit....
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#4958532 Posted on: 11/14/2014 03:35 AM
Yeah Ubifail blame the hardware manufacturer when you can't code a game to properly utilize the hardware real professional of you.
Yeah Ubifail blame the hardware manufacturer when you can't code a game to properly utilize the hardware real professional of you.
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#4958549 Posted on: 11/14/2014 04:48 AM
Mantle can apparently do over 100,000 draw calls.
Mantle can apparently do over 100,000 draw calls.
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Watch out EA, Ubi is coming to claim the title of worst company of the year.
Seriously, ubisoft is realy messing things up bad. Ppl won't accept this crap any longer.