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ASRock X299E-ITX/ac A Very Tiny Mini ITX LGA2066 Motherboard
ASRock managed to inject quite a few features into a 17x17cm motherboard, a Mini-ITX sized motherboard. The ultimate Mini-ITX has to have everything, X299E-ITX/ac was built on a X299 platform to give ultimate processing power, dual Intel Gigabit Lan along with dual band 2.4/5GHz 802.11ac WiFi.
Press-release -- Dual band 2.4/5GHz 802.11ac WiFi provides the best connectivity, USB3.1 Gen2 Type A+C are also available at the rear of the motherboard, more amazingly this little beast also supports quad channel memory up to DDR4 4000 MHz(OC), stunning performance on such a small motherboard.
In order to provide the best expandability ASRock engineers has to think outside the box, by adding two expansion cards, X299E-ITX/ac now has 3 Ultra M.2 and 6 SATA3 ports, absolutely no compromise for supporting high speed storage devices. Stability is also vital, with 60A power choke and Dr.MOS to form a 7 power phase design, this motherboard can handle heavy load as well as everyday task with ease.
ASRock has collaborated with water cooling expert Bitspower technology to developed a cooling block specifically for X299E-ITX/ac, it is able to dissipate heat for both CPU & MOSFET up to 300W, a perfect optional upgrade for performance seeker and water cooling enthusiasts.
ASRock has yet again broke the limit to crammed such performance as well as amazing features into a Mini-ITX size motherboard, not only that, X299E-ITX/ac received a TAIWAN EXCELLENCE 2018 award right after the official launch, a perfect affirmation that this little beast is the truly built for small form factor fanatics.
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#5482635 Posted on: 10/17/2017 07:08 PM
no the CPU is bigger than itx form factor ((maybe i am trolling lol
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Unfortunately, I think you are correct.
no the CPU is bigger than itx form factor ((maybe i am trolling lol
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Unfortunately, I think you are correct.
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#5482646 Posted on: 10/17/2017 07:41 PM
Socket TR4 can fit in ITX, in theory. Take a look at the full size ATX boards: some of them have the first PCIe slot directly below the I/O panel. The real challenge with an ITX TR build would actually be finding a place to put the chipset. If a manufacturer did the same sorts of things ASRock did with this X299 board, everything could fit, except the chipset. That would also likely need to be mounted on a separate card, unless you start removing things like SATA or other headers.
What kind of surprises me is why nobody has bothered to create a daughterboard for ITX. So basically the bottom (and larger) layer has the I/O ports, the PCIe x16 slot, the M.2 slots, the chipset, and if there's room, the 24-pin power connector. The bottom layer would also have most/all of the header pins and SATA ports, but angled at 90 degrees. Then, the top layer would contain the CPU socket, RAM slots, VRM, 8-pin power connectors, and maybe the M.2 slot for wifi. Since you're probably going to water-cool this system anyway, I don't think another few cm of elevation is a big deal. You might be thinking that the 4000+ pin CPU would complicate communication to the bottom layer, but I don't think it would:
* Roughly half of the pins in socket TR4 are useless; about half of them are meant for the additional 2 dies supplied by Epyc. AMD made the sockets similar because it was cheaper to just recycle the same socket.
* Though I don't know how many of them there are, a good chunk of the pins of the CPU are used for ground and power delivery, making the remaining ~2000 pins not seem so high. Remember, the VRM and 8-pin power connectors are supplied on the daughterboard too.
* The CPU supplies up to 64 PCIe lanes, but the motherboard will be using less than half that. I have no idea how many pins are dedicated for PCIe but I imagine ignoring at least 32 of them would substantially reduce the complexity.
* There may be quad-channel memory, but that too is on the top-layer board.
So all that being said, I can't imagine it'd be too complex or expensive to connect the two boards.
Probably never going to happen, but I at least think it's cool to think about.
Socket TR4 can fit in ITX, in theory. Take a look at the full size ATX boards: some of them have the first PCIe slot directly below the I/O panel. The real challenge with an ITX TR build would actually be finding a place to put the chipset. If a manufacturer did the same sorts of things ASRock did with this X299 board, everything could fit, except the chipset. That would also likely need to be mounted on a separate card, unless you start removing things like SATA or other headers.
What kind of surprises me is why nobody has bothered to create a daughterboard for ITX. So basically the bottom (and larger) layer has the I/O ports, the PCIe x16 slot, the M.2 slots, the chipset, and if there's room, the 24-pin power connector. The bottom layer would also have most/all of the header pins and SATA ports, but angled at 90 degrees. Then, the top layer would contain the CPU socket, RAM slots, VRM, 8-pin power connectors, and maybe the M.2 slot for wifi. Since you're probably going to water-cool this system anyway, I don't think another few cm of elevation is a big deal. You might be thinking that the 4000+ pin CPU would complicate communication to the bottom layer, but I don't think it would:
* Roughly half of the pins in socket TR4 are useless; about half of them are meant for the additional 2 dies supplied by Epyc. AMD made the sockets similar because it was cheaper to just recycle the same socket.
* Though I don't know how many of them there are, a good chunk of the pins of the CPU are used for ground and power delivery, making the remaining ~2000 pins not seem so high. Remember, the VRM and 8-pin power connectors are supplied on the daughterboard too.
* The CPU supplies up to 64 PCIe lanes, but the motherboard will be using less than half that. I have no idea how many pins are dedicated for PCIe but I imagine ignoring at least 32 of them would substantially reduce the complexity.
* There may be quad-channel memory, but that too is on the top-layer board.
So all that being said, I can't imagine it'd be too complex or expensive to connect the two boards.
Probably never going to happen, but I at least think it's cool to think about.
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#5482647 Posted on: 10/17/2017 07:48 PM
Will never happen, socket just takes way too much space.
They would have to omit a PCIe slot or vrm above cpu. But then there's not room else where to put things.
If ASRock manages this with Threadripper (doubtful) I'm in.
Will never happen, socket just takes way too much space.
They would have to omit a PCIe slot or vrm above cpu. But then there's not room else where to put things.
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#5483037 Posted on: 10/18/2017 04:58 PM
Did anyone notice that the RAM slots are notebook memory type?
Did anyone notice that the RAM slots are notebook memory type?
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Asrock...rocks.
i have been a bit more than underwhelmed with x299 since the launch. there has been nothing on the mobo front to pique my interest until now.
now there's a usage scenario with Kaby LakeX that make sense. expensive sense, but sense.