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ASRock Announces Windows 11 Compatible Motherboards
ASRock announced what motherboards will be compatible with Microsoft's next OS, Windows 11
Although a TPM 2.0 function is required to upgrade "Windows 11", by enabling the firmware TPM 2.0 function, it can be handled without the need for a physical module. In the BIOS setting items, it is necessary to enable "Intel Platform Trust Technology" on the Intel platform and select "AMD CPU fTPM" on the "AMD fTPM switch" on the AMD platform.
The firmware TPM 2.0 function is supported by motherboards equipped with Intel X299 / 500/400/300/200/100 series and AMD TRX 40/500/400/300 series chipsets. Please refer to the link for detailed compatible chipsets and setting methods.
| Generation | Supported Chipset |
| *Intel 100 series | Z170, H170, B150, H110 |
| *Intel 200 series | Z270, H270, B250 |
| Intel 300 series | Z390, Z370, H370, B360, B365, H310, H310C |
| Intel 400 series | Z490, H470, B460, H410 |
| Intel 500 series | Z590, B560, H510, H570 |
| Intel X299 series | X299 |
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#5927073 Posted on: 07/06/2021 02:03 PM
almost all recent motherboards are compatible....compatible aka as a HEADER that require a separately buyable MODULE
that you cannot buy and that half the brands don't even sell
I saw Asus and Gigabyte who "supposedly" sold them at one point..but so little that they were insta-gone at the announcement, most countries never had any stock because there was no market/customers for them
there's also at least 2-3 types of them, of course incompatible with each other
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
almost all recent motherboards are compatible....compatible aka as a HEADER that require a separately buyable MODULE
that you cannot buy and that half the brands don't even sell
I saw Asus and Gigabyte who "supposedly" sold them at one point..but so little that they were insta-gone at the announcement, most countries never had any stock because there was no market/customers for them
there's also at least 2-3 types of them, of course incompatible with each other
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
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#5927098 Posted on: 07/06/2021 04:04 PM
My ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/AC (4 year old mobo) supports TPM 2.0 and runs Windows 11 just fine.
I have an empty header on the board, but when I enable all this stuff in my BIOS it works. It's all there built in. The TPM.MSC tool in Windows 10 also comes back with "The TPM is ready for use" - "Manufacturer Version: 320.0 blah blah blah.
Maybe not all boards with the chipsets ASRock has listed here do, I dunno, but I can vouch for this particular board.
But yeah, I strongly agree that Microsoft suddenly requiring all of this for their Win 11 is complete horse-sh$T (that's a huge understatement) and IS going to cause a lot of problems and confusion.
...and no I'm not posting this to rub it in anyone's face... this is genuinely FYI here.
My ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/AC (4 year old mobo) supports TPM 2.0 and runs Windows 11 just fine.
I have an empty header on the board, but when I enable all this stuff in my BIOS it works. It's all there built in. The TPM.MSC tool in Windows 10 also comes back with "The TPM is ready for use" - "Manufacturer Version: 320.0 blah blah blah.
Maybe not all boards with the chipsets ASRock has listed here do, I dunno, but I can vouch for this particular board.
But yeah, I strongly agree that Microsoft suddenly requiring all of this for their Win 11 is complete horse-sh$T (that's a huge understatement) and IS going to cause a lot of problems and confusion.
...and no I'm not posting this to rub it in anyone's face... this is genuinely FYI here.
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#5927109 Posted on: 07/06/2021 04:46 PM
almost all recent motherboards are compatible....compatible aka as a HEADER that require a separately buyable MODULE
that you cannot buy and that half the brands don't even sell
I saw Asus and Gigabyte who "supposedly" sold them at one point..but so little that they were insta-gone at the announcement, most countries never had any stock because there was no market/customers for them
there's also at least 2-3 types of them, of course incompatible with each other
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
yeah, TPM was an enterprise solution that works well. there are several TPM modules on the market for server boards and forward looking consumer mobo's have headers, but no available modules for their socket.
but as most people aren't to-ing and fro-ing with sensitive proprietary data, TPM is a waste of time in the consumer field and basically offers psychological coverage for Intel's exploitable cpu's.
none of which helps if you get ransomware
almost all recent motherboards are compatible....compatible aka as a HEADER that require a separately buyable MODULE
that you cannot buy and that half the brands don't even sell
I saw Asus and Gigabyte who "supposedly" sold them at one point..but so little that they were insta-gone at the announcement, most countries never had any stock because there was no market/customers for them
there's also at least 2-3 types of them, of course incompatible with each other
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
yeah, TPM was an enterprise solution that works well. there are several TPM modules on the market for server boards and forward looking consumer mobo's have headers, but no available modules for their socket.
but as most people aren't to-ing and fro-ing with sensitive proprietary data, TPM is a waste of time in the consumer field and basically offers psychological coverage for Intel's exploitable cpu's.
none of which helps if you get ransomware
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#5927138 Posted on: 07/06/2021 07:17 PM
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
AMD Cpus most definitely have AMD CPU fTPM and run Windows 11 fine.
even Linus made a very confusing WAN show stream where he started by saying the same I do here and then went into the "boards are compatible" unwillingly repeating the lie that "your hardware will work" when it won't, very annoying...
reminds me of when I bought the 3090 for roughly 1600€ 1 day after the NA tariffs announcement and people called me crazy...now it's 3000€ I'm telling you...99% of computers won't be able to install win11 with a tpm 2.0 requirement, nothing else than laptops has it basically I checked a few entreprise desktops yesterday and none had the actual chip even on 13'000$ monsters
secure boot is NOT tpm, cpus do not have tpm, you need an actual physical tpm module
AMD Cpus most definitely have AMD CPU fTPM and run Windows 11 fine.
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"ASRock announced that what motherboards will be compatible with for Microsoft's next OS, Windows 11..." - this doesn't sound right. "that" and "for" should be removed.
But this pushing for Windows 11 transition is very interesting. TPM2.0 is 'great' but doing nothing to prevent ransomware or any other real security threat. If someone unauthorized have access to your computer then you have much bigger problems than missing a security chip. Also it is very interesting to find what happens if that security chip TPM2.0 goes faulty after 2 or 3 years of use. This is clearly not about security but how you can go to the next level of data mining. Just my opinion.