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ASMedia 600 chipset family for Zen 3 available in late 2020
It has been a rumor for quite some time now, ASMedia fabricating a chipset for AMD Ryzen setups. As it seems, that now has been confirmed by motherboard manufacturers at CES, it's likely starting with the release of ZEN3 though.
And that news is going to be interesting, as it'll be a completely new chipset as ASMedia does not even have a Series 500 chipset available. The lads from Computerbase more or less confirmed this info with motherboard manufacturers, however additional news is coming from the Asia regions as a new chipset would be launched for AMD's new platform, and that would be the series 600 chipset for AMD's Ryzen 4000 processors based on Zen 3.
What exactly the portfolio looks like at the end of the year remains a rumor, as well as the features and specification of a new AMD chipset, fabricated by ASMedia.
Update - this just came in from DigiTimes:
ASMedia Technology has reportedly secured orders for AMD's 500- and 600-series chipsets, which will buoy the Taiwan-based chipmaker's sales performance in 2020 and 2021, according to industry sources.
AMD's 600-series chipsets are scheduled to be released at the end of 2020. Although ASMedia has not obtained orders for AMD's X570 chipsets that supports PCIe Gen 4, the chipmaker continues to be the maker of AMD's B550 and A520 chipsets, the sources said.
In addition to its partnership with AMD, ASMedia's USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 controller chip that supports transmission speeds up to 20Gbps is also expected to see rising demand as the chip integrated in Intel's existing CPUs can only support USB 3.2 Gen 2 that features a maximum transmission speed of 10Gbps, the sources said. ASMedia has also begun development of a USB 4 controller chip, which is set to be released in 2020, and is expected to obtain orders from PC and motherboard brands. The US-China trade war has also sent some clients shifting orders to ASMedia for packet conversion ICs and USB 3.2 host controller chips for server CPUs, and these orders' contribution to ASMedia's revenues is also expected to gradually pick up over the next three years.
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#5750560 Posted on: 01/14/2020 12:29 PM
And we are still waiting B550 and A320...
The good point is that B450 and A320 bios have evolved a lot, when i see how much you can OC on a A320, i regret a bit to have bough a B450 only to get OC 20euro more is nearly half the price of the CPU lol.
And we are still waiting B550 and A320...
The good point is that B450 and A320 bios have evolved a lot, when i see how much you can OC on a A320, i regret a bit to have bough a B450 only to get OC 20euro more is nearly half the price of the CPU lol.
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#5750571 Posted on: 01/14/2020 01:43 PM
Will be interesting to hear what the 600 series might offer, doesn't seem like the 500 series brought too much overall beyond PCI Express 4.0 readiness after it turned out the 400 series wasn't quite up to supporting this properly.
Suppose it depends on what Zen3 itself could bring with it's improvements on the CPU side.
AM4 and backwards compatibility probably factoring in including slotting a Zen3 into compatible bios updated X400's and X500's until next year if AM5 and a new socket is going to be a thing maybe allowing for further improvements by not needing the backwards compatibility support. (Moving beyond dual channel for memory might be something if that's not just for Rippers. PCI-Express 5.0 perhaps maybe more.)
EDIT: Improvements to chips and other components might perhaps allow for passive cooling as well instead of the little spinner, X79 board I used before had one of those which eh it's a thing.
Current one on the X500 is one of the Zen2 I/O dies isn't it that AMD used and now ASMedia has come up with something for support here with the X600 guess we shall see how it goes. once it's fully announced with some details on what it brings.
The 500-series chipset will only be able to use PCIe 3 from the latest rumours.
That doesn't rule out the first PCIe slot and x4 M2 slot being PCIe 4 "capable" though, if being routed direct from the CPU.
I suspect even B450 boards could do that now, if the board traces were qualified for PCIe4.
I really would expect the 600-series to be native PCIe 4 throughout the line.
Moving to DDR5/AM5 in late 2021, the increase in bandwidth from the DDR5 should mitigate the need for extra Memory channel, as they take up a LOT of pins on the CPU.
I'd rather see extra pins taken by extra PCIe lanes
Will be interesting to hear what the 600 series might offer, doesn't seem like the 500 series brought too much overall beyond PCI Express 4.0 readiness after it turned out the 400 series wasn't quite up to supporting this properly.
Suppose it depends on what Zen3 itself could bring with it's improvements on the CPU side.
AM4 and backwards compatibility probably factoring in including slotting a Zen3 into compatible bios updated X400's and X500's until next year if AM5 and a new socket is going to be a thing maybe allowing for further improvements by not needing the backwards compatibility support. (Moving beyond dual channel for memory might be something if that's not just for Rippers. PCI-Express 5.0 perhaps maybe more.)
EDIT: Improvements to chips and other components might perhaps allow for passive cooling as well instead of the little spinner, X79 board I used before had one of those which eh it's a thing.
Current one on the X500 is one of the Zen2 I/O dies isn't it that AMD used and now ASMedia has come up with something for support here with the X600 guess we shall see how it goes. once it's fully announced with some details on what it brings.
The 500-series chipset will only be able to use PCIe 3 from the latest rumours.
That doesn't rule out the first PCIe slot and x4 M2 slot being PCIe 4 "capable" though, if being routed direct from the CPU.
I suspect even B450 boards could do that now, if the board traces were qualified for PCIe4.
I really would expect the 600-series to be native PCIe 4 throughout the line.
Moving to DDR5/AM5 in late 2021, the increase in bandwidth from the DDR5 should mitigate the need for extra Memory channel, as they take up a LOT of pins on the CPU.
I'd rather see extra pins taken by extra PCIe lanes
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#5750587 Posted on: 01/14/2020 03:00 PM
if you want extra channels and extra pciexpress there is the other platform, the threadripper or intel x299.
Is not reasonable to think quad channel on consumer soon ( or triple x58 was cool ) and then having a monter 6-8 channel as higher end platform.
if you want extra channels and extra pciexpress there is the other platform, the threadripper or intel x299.
Is not reasonable to think quad channel on consumer soon ( or triple x58 was cool ) and then having a monter 6-8 channel as higher end platform.
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#5750593 Posted on: 01/14/2020 03:25 PM
if you want extra channels and extra pciexpress there is the other platform, the threadripper or intel x299.
Is not reasonable to think quad channel on consumer soon ( or triple x58 was cool ) and then having a monter 6-8 channel as higher end platform.
Its actually pretty unreasonable to expect quad channel on consumer levels anytime soon.
As I mentioned, the number of extra pins that brings to the socket is huge, and that sort of socket is reserved for the HEDT platform, as you rightly say.
That would mean an extra 288 pins, for each channel!!!
Just a few extra PCie lanes would be enough to enable Thunderbolt support or something, with an additional driver chip (an extra PCIe 4.0 x8 lanes should be enough.)
That would probably be a lot easier to do through the chipset though...
if you want extra channels and extra pciexpress there is the other platform, the threadripper or intel x299.
Is not reasonable to think quad channel on consumer soon ( or triple x58 was cool ) and then having a monter 6-8 channel as higher end platform.
Its actually pretty unreasonable to expect quad channel on consumer levels anytime soon.
As I mentioned, the number of extra pins that brings to the socket is huge, and that sort of socket is reserved for the HEDT platform, as you rightly say.
That would mean an extra 288 pins, for each channel!!!
Just a few extra PCie lanes would be enough to enable Thunderbolt support or something, with an additional driver chip (an extra PCIe 4.0 x8 lanes should be enough.)
That would probably be a lot easier to do through the chipset though...
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Will be interesting to hear what the 600 series might offer, doesn't seem like the 500 series brought too much overall beyond PCI Express 4.0 readiness after it turned out the 400 series wasn't quite up to supporting this properly.
Suppose it depends on what Zen3 itself could bring with it's improvements on the CPU side.
AM4 and backwards compatibility probably factoring in including slotting a Zen3 into compatible bios updated X400's and X500's until next year if AM5 and a new socket is going to be a thing maybe allowing for further improvements by not needing the backwards compatibility support. (Moving beyond dual channel for memory might be something if that's not just for Rippers. PCI-Express 5.0 perhaps maybe more.)
EDIT: Improvements to chips and other components might perhaps allow for passive cooling as well instead of the little spinner, X79 board I used before had one of those which eh it's a thing.
Current one on the X500 is one of the Zen2 I/O dies isn't it that AMD used and now ASMedia has come up with something for support here with the X600 guess we shall see how it goes. once it's fully announced with some details on what it brings.