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Asetek to sue Cooler Master
Yesterday word came out that Asetek is going after Cooler Master, claiming CM's new Seidon 120M, Seidon 120XL and Seidon 240M infringe upon two of its watercooling patents. Asetek tells the court that it informed Cooler Master to cease and desist on November 28th, 2012 but given the lack of a satisfactory response, Asetek decided to go the legal route on January 31st, 2013. The company wants Cooler Master to cease and desist on infringing both patents and it wants damages paid.
This involves patents 8245764 and 8240362 in the USA. These patents where granted in August 2012. Asetek in the past already has sued other competition like CoolIT.
I don't see whether a patent breach is warranted really, the liquid cooling loop setup is such a common thing and the patients have too little details as far as I can see. What's next Asetek ? Sue the car industry ? They use the same liquid cooling methods as well.
Oh in other news, we are reviewing the Seidon kits as we speak ;)
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#4551589 Posted on: 03/12/2013 04:25 PM
So it looks like they've patented water cooling in general.
So it looks like they've patented water cooling in general.
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#4551598 Posted on: 03/12/2013 04:37 PM
Water cooling patents?! lol .. a patent for something so basic?
Water cooling patents?! lol .. a patent for something so basic?
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#4551609 Posted on: 03/12/2013 04:45 PM
It's not really about the idea of water-cooling loop setup but rather on how Asetek is implementing it.
And no, it's not a patent about 'water-cooling in general'.
I don't think those writings (and the images it references) under the 'DETAILED DESCRIPTION' section can be considered generic to any water-cooling loop setup.
The first half of the patent is a generic overview of a cooling loop setup, but what's written after all that is definitely not.
It's not really about the idea of water-cooling loop setup but rather on how Asetek is implementing it.
And no, it's not a patent about 'water-cooling in general'.
I don't think those writings (and the images it references) under the 'DETAILED DESCRIPTION' section can be considered generic to any water-cooling loop setup.
The first half of the patent is a generic overview of a cooling loop setup, but what's written after all that is definitely not.
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#4551613 Posted on: 03/12/2013 04:49 PM
but it's the common way to do it, i don't see something special to be as a "patent" here.
but it's the common way to do it, i don't see something special to be as a "patent" here.
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#4551635 Posted on: 03/12/2013 05:28 PM
After have watch a bit the patents, it look it is more for the patents who includes:
- The way Asetek have implement the pump in the CPU block for this type of watercooling setup . And the "closed" reservoir system.
- The way they have implement some parts for refresh the pump ( pumps allways delay some energy to the liquid ).
You will tell me, some other brands do thoses H2o premade setup ( Corsair etc ), but they have team up with Asetek for do it .
The first who have release waterblocks CPU with this system ( the pump included in the waterblocks ) was Asetek .. this technic have then been port to " H2o premade setup "...
A second technic used by other company was too put the pump and reservoir on the rads.
After have watch a bit the patents, it look it is more for the patents who includes:
- The way Asetek have implement the pump in the CPU block for this type of watercooling setup . And the "closed" reservoir system.
- The way they have implement some parts for refresh the pump ( pumps allways delay some energy to the liquid ).
You will tell me, some other brands do thoses H2o premade setup ( Corsair etc ), but they have team up with Asetek for do it .
The first who have release waterblocks CPU with this system ( the pump included in the waterblocks ) was Asetek .. this technic have then been port to " H2o premade setup "...
A second technic used by other company was too put the pump and reservoir on the rads.
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#4551702 Posted on: 03/12/2013 06:40 PM
Asetek is suing based on a design patent. CoolerMaster knew the patent existed and chose to violate it just like CoolIT did. Best option for CoolerMaster at this point would be to agree to pay damages and negotiate a licensing deal.
It's a common way that Asetek, who manufacturers damn near every AIO watercooling system on the market, does it. There are still other ways to design an AIO watercooling system without violating someone else's patents.
Asetek is suing based on a design patent. CoolerMaster knew the patent existed and chose to violate it just like CoolIT did. Best option for CoolerMaster at this point would be to agree to pay damages and negotiate a licensing deal.
but it's the common way to do it, i don't see something special to be as a "patent" here.
It's a common way that Asetek, who manufacturers damn near every AIO watercooling system on the market, does it. There are still other ways to design an AIO watercooling system without violating someone else's patents.
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#4551849 Posted on: 03/12/2013 09:36 PM
Next i they will sue the water in them.
Next i they will sue the water in them.
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#4551852 Posted on: 03/12/2013 09:39 PM
No, that's if Apple made the product. Actually no scratch that, if Apple made it then they'd sue for it containing copper, or the fact that it's intention is to cool off something.
Next i they will sue the water in them.
No, that's if Apple made the product. Actually no scratch that, if Apple made it then they'd sue for it containing copper, or the fact that it's intention is to cool off something.
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#4552342 Posted on: 03/13/2013 01:58 PM
if apple made such a product, everyone would be using watercooled cpu heatsinks.
No, that's if Apple made the product. Actually no scratch that, if Apple made it then they'd sue for it containing copper, or the fact that it's intention is to cool off something.
if apple made such a product, everyone would be using watercooled cpu heatsinks.
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holy crap a tech lawsuit that doesn't involve MS, Apple, Samsung, Oracle, Intel, Nvidia, AMD, or IBM. Not only that, it's a lawsuit on something reasonable. Like I actually hope Asetek wins because they weren't patent trolling, they were just simply trying to protect their product.