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An overview of Ubisofts downgraded games (video)
Hah, intersting compilation video. This comparison shows differences inbetween E3 demos and the retail version of recent Ubisoft games.
I encourage you to not only focus on textures or lighting, but also on animation, level design, assets, physics, and sound. Recorded in 1080p at max settings on PC with a controller. Check it out:
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#5285565 Posted on: 06/07/2016 02:07 PM
I actually think there's something else going on here. The clue is in the big differences in all assets used in all games shown at events like E3 etc.
I suspect the "event-versions" are actually what we'd call "tech-demo", running on a different engine altogether with proper lighting, smoke, textures...even sounds as you've noticed.
What they seem to do is take small portions of the real game and remake it at a much higher-quality and this is then presented as representative of the real game when infact it's just a tech-demo of what the game could be like, but, not what it's actually like. This explains the assets and even interface differences etc.
Kinda-like those UE4 demos. Small portions of the game, just enough to make you "wow" and "awe" (and think it's real) and ofcourse, buy the eventual product which is much lower-quality and not because of consoles either, the real games are lower-quality because they were made that way.
I actually think there's something else going on here. The clue is in the big differences in all assets used in all games shown at events like E3 etc.
I suspect the "event-versions" are actually what we'd call "tech-demo", running on a different engine altogether with proper lighting, smoke, textures...even sounds as you've noticed.
What they seem to do is take small portions of the real game and remake it at a much higher-quality and this is then presented as representative of the real game when infact it's just a tech-demo of what the game could be like, but, not what it's actually like. This explains the assets and even interface differences etc.
Kinda-like those UE4 demos. Small portions of the game, just enough to make you "wow" and "awe" (and think it's real) and ofcourse, buy the eventual product which is much lower-quality and not because of consoles either, the real games are lower-quality because they were made that way.
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#5285567 Posted on: 06/07/2016 02:14 PM
^^Yeap, it is always telling that these reveals are alway pre-recorded, never live. ha
Just watch E3 next week and see how many videos are pre-recorded with games that look way too good for even PC tech to reach.
^^Yeap, it is always telling that these reveals are alway pre-recorded, never live. ha
Just watch E3 next week and see how many videos are pre-recorded with games that look way too good for even PC tech to reach.
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#5285579 Posted on: 06/07/2016 02:45 PM
It's not though. In every pre-release footage, it is always noted that these games are still in development and are subject to change.
It's crappy, but not illegal.
False advertising, they could be sued.
It's not though. In every pre-release footage, it is always noted that these games are still in development and are subject to change.
It's crappy, but not illegal.
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#5285596 Posted on: 06/07/2016 03:17 PM
1. Stop buying UBI games
2. Share holders will not be happy
3. https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/company/overview.aspx Get rid few of these (from management team) and hire better ones.
4. Gamers get better games and share holders get more money.
1. Stop buying UBI games
2. Share holders will not be happy
3. https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/company/overview.aspx Get rid few of these (from management team) and hire better ones.
4. Gamers get better games and share holders get more money.
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#5285620 Posted on: 06/07/2016 04:02 PM
Should we start a small competition between us, a free humble bundle to the person who guesses the correct amount of pre-filmed games reveals that come up with the words "game are still in development and are subject to change.
Go on, i will stump up for the humble bumble, don't say i don't put out. ha
Go on stick you name down and leave a number.
Should we start a small competition between us, a free humble bundle to the person who guesses the correct amount of pre-filmed games reveals that come up with the words "game are still in development and are subject to change.
Go on, i will stump up for the humble bumble, don't say i don't put out. ha
Go on stick you name down and leave a number.
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#5285628 Posted on: 06/07/2016 04:15 PM
Almost like comparing a blockbuster movie with the low budget parody version of it, except it isn't funny at all.
Almost like comparing a blockbuster movie with the low budget parody version of it, except it isn't funny at all.
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#5285642 Posted on: 06/07/2016 04:29 PM
graphics are overrated - as long as gameplay is good, i dont care much ^^
graphics are overrated - as long as gameplay is good, i dont care much ^^
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#5285645 Posted on: 06/07/2016 04:47 PM
That is not the point. Point is Ubisoft is advertising their products in a way that gives people false expectations. And it goes far beyond the graphical aspect.
graphics are overrated - as long as gameplay is good, i dont care much ^^
That is not the point. Point is Ubisoft is advertising their products in a way that gives people false expectations. And it goes far beyond the graphical aspect.
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#5285647 Posted on: 06/07/2016 04:50 PM
Thanks to consoles for ruining and slowing pc gaming since 2006
Thanks to consoles for ruining and slowing pc gaming since 2006
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#5285671 Posted on: 06/07/2016 05:32 PM
Funny how all of this could be solved just by using the tag: Target Quality on the videos, because that's what they obviously are.
Funny how all of this could be solved just by using the tag: Target Quality on the videos, because that's what they obviously are.
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#5285688 Posted on: 06/07/2016 06:13 PM
Did you watch it? Even the gameplay they went through was cut down from the original demo.
They show these demos full of life. Lots of NPCs, awesome lighting, smoke, weather, ect. Then they cut all those touches that make it feel alive and the game looks and feels drab for it. But the games still sell like hot cakes, so I doubt it will change any time soon.
graphics are overrated - as long as gameplay is good, i dont care much ^^
Did you watch it? Even the gameplay they went through was cut down from the original demo.
They show these demos full of life. Lots of NPCs, awesome lighting, smoke, weather, ect. Then they cut all those touches that make it feel alive and the game looks and feels drab for it. But the games still sell like hot cakes, so I doubt it will change any time soon.
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#5285691 Posted on: 06/07/2016 06:19 PM
Difference is so damn f***g huge.I think they are comparing console vs pc in video.Otherwise it cant be that much of downgraded.
And how they got the gameplay footage of E3 they wont show long gameplays footage at E3.they just show trailers.
Difference is so damn f***g huge.I think they are comparing console vs pc in video.Otherwise it cant be that much of downgraded.
And how they got the gameplay footage of E3 they wont show long gameplays footage at E3.they just show trailers.
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#5285692 Posted on: 06/07/2016 06:19 PM
BUT WHY??!
Someone explain the logic behind the deceptive work ethic? If it already looks one way, WTF go through all the work to downgrade?? lol..
BUT WHY??!
Someone explain the logic behind the deceptive work ethic? If it already looks one way, WTF go through all the work to downgrade?? lol..
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#5285694 Posted on: 06/07/2016 06:22 PM
"Recorded in 1080p at max settings on PC with a controller."
That's from the article. Got to actually read to figure these things out.
Difference is so damn f***g huge.I think they are comparing console vs pc in video.Otherwise it cant be that much of downgraded.
"Recorded in 1080p at max settings on PC with a controller."
That's from the article. Got to actually read to figure these things out.
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I bet the shareholders aren't too happy about that video.