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AMD ZEN 8-core Summit Ridge To launch January 17th 2017
You should mark that date in your agenda, 17-1-2017 as there now is a very strong indication that the 8-core ZEN processors from AMD is to be launched or available on that date. An AMD China partner called Maxsun shared some detail on the launch., which found its way onto the web.
Before we begin, as always rumors are just that ... rumors and we certainly can't verify this information. However, the indication and partner seems valid. That would mean availability of AMD Zen on January the 17th, which matches up with a CES 2017 announcement (5th of January through the 8th)
Yesterday we already mentioned an indication for Summit Ridge processors (the 8-core ZEN part) pricing, MAXSUN here as well confirms that pricing scheme. The companies SR7 processors (high-end SKUs) in the Zen line-up would sit in the 1500-2000 Yuan segment, and that is $200-$300.
MAXSUN also kind of confirmed the clock frequency range for AMD's next processors as they are quoting 3.15-3.30 GHz base clocks with 3.5 GHz boost clocks (similar to Intel's most high-end 8 and 10-core SKUs). On top of that they claim the processors can be clocked to 4.2 GHz fairly easily with conventional cooling and up to 5 GHz with LN2. In the posted screenshots they mention that the top-end SKU can compete with the Intel 6850K
Let me end where I began, as always rumors are just that ... rumors. But this one does seem valid. Let's hope that the hype is real.
The initial “Zen” CPU core will come to market first in an 8-core, 16-thread system-on-chip for desktops (=Summit Ridge). The "Summit Ridge" Zen family will feature a unified AM4 socket with its GPU-equipped "Bristol Ridge" APU counterparts, and feature DDR4 support and a an expected 95W TDP. We expect each Zen core will have four integer units, two address generation units and four floating point units, and the decoder can decode four instructions per clock cycle. L1 data cache size is 32 KiB and L2 cache size 512 KiB per core. 2 CCUs = 2x8MB (L3) + 8x512KB (L2) = 20MB
In a recent presenation AMD shows Summit Ridge to be faster compared to an octacore-Broadwell-E at the same clock frequency.
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#5360348 Posted on: 11/18/2016 04:44 PM
I Hope it performs good..Willing to change Our Family PC into a pure AMD Setup...Hope it outperforms 6700K..
I Hope it performs good..Willing to change Our Family PC into a pure AMD Setup...Hope it outperforms 6700K..
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#5360359 Posted on: 11/18/2016 05:10 PM
This is hopefully what we consumers want, competition so the prices go down
This is hopefully what we consumers want, competition so the prices go down
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#5360363 Posted on: 11/18/2016 05:18 PM
I'm going to need to see some independent demos/reviews/benchmarks before I get excited for anything new. Will reviewers get test hardware before 1/17/17? Could reviews be out before the release?
I'm going to need to see some independent demos/reviews/benchmarks before I get excited for anything new. Will reviewers get test hardware before 1/17/17? Could reviews be out before the release?
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#5360368 Posted on: 11/18/2016 05:28 PM
Ok folks its happening, looking forward to reviews
Ok folks its happening, looking forward to reviews
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#5360409 Posted on: 11/18/2016 07:50 PM
That's good the release date isn't going to be February (though I'd still like to see the 4c/8t model...). Assuming the rumors are true, I'm a little less hopeful about the performance. That price is very low for an 8c/16t part. Either AMD is begging everyone join them or this performs significantly worse than they expected.
I'm probably going to buy AMD next anyway because I want to see them succeed and I'm sure the performance will be adequate. But if their 8-core is going to be around $300, I'm not sure how they're supposed to profit on some of their dual core chips, assuming they'll even bother to make them.
Even if the performance was great they can't really compete with Intel if they price the chips high, sure some old amd cpus cost a lot but those were when they were still top dogs. Intel could price their cpus way way lower if they had any competition.
That's good the release date isn't going to be February (though I'd still like to see the 4c/8t model...). Assuming the rumors are true, I'm a little less hopeful about the performance. That price is very low for an 8c/16t part. Either AMD is begging everyone join them or this performs significantly worse than they expected.
I'm probably going to buy AMD next anyway because I want to see them succeed and I'm sure the performance will be adequate. But if their 8-core is going to be around $300, I'm not sure how they're supposed to profit on some of their dual core chips, assuming they'll even bother to make them.
Even if the performance was great they can't really compete with Intel if they price the chips high, sure some old amd cpus cost a lot but those were when they were still top dogs. Intel could price their cpus way way lower if they had any competition.
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#5360416 Posted on: 11/18/2016 08:05 PM
Agreed, but this CPU is half the threads as a similarly priced i7. That's what worries me.
Even if the performance was great they can't really compete with Intel if they price the chips high, sure some old amd cpus cost a lot but those were when they were still top dogs. Intel could price their cpus way way lower if they had any competition.
Agreed, but this CPU is half the threads as a similarly priced i7. That's what worries me.
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#5360417 Posted on: 11/18/2016 08:06 PM
Damn, three days before my birthday too.
Edit: Oh, and this is going to be the hardest 2 month wait I have done in a while.
Damn, three days before my birthday too.
Edit: Oh, and this is going to be the hardest 2 month wait I have done in a while.
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#5360428 Posted on: 11/18/2016 08:37 PM
Looking forward to the release, be nice to see AMD do well here! Having said that I really don't see the 8c 16t chip being $300, Intel have set the bar with pricing and people are buying them in droves! AMDs pricing imo will be not to far behind what intel charge if the performance is there or thereabouts.
As much as I want to see 8 core monsters at that price point I think it's just not going to happen!
Looking forward to the release, be nice to see AMD do well here! Having said that I really don't see the 8c 16t chip being $300, Intel have set the bar with pricing and people are buying them in droves! AMDs pricing imo will be not to far behind what intel charge if the performance is there or thereabouts.
As much as I want to see 8 core monsters at that price point I think it's just not going to happen!
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#5360431 Posted on: 11/18/2016 08:56 PM
That price is very low for an 8c/16t part. Either AMD is begging everyone join them or this performs significantly worse than they expected.
I'm probably going to buy AMD next anyway because I want to see them succeed and I'm sure the performance will be adequate. But if their 8-core is going to be around $300, I'm not sure how they're supposed to profit on some of their dual core chips, assuming they'll even bother to make them.
i feel this very true also..going that cheap is not gonna make them gain any profits
That price is very low for an 8c/16t part. Either AMD is begging everyone join them or this performs significantly worse than they expected.
I'm probably going to buy AMD next anyway because I want to see them succeed and I'm sure the performance will be adequate. But if their 8-core is going to be around $300, I'm not sure how they're supposed to profit on some of their dual core chips, assuming they'll even bother to make them.
i feel this very true also..going that cheap is not gonna make them gain any profits
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#5360433 Posted on: 11/18/2016 09:03 PM
You're on a first gen i7, clock for clock Zen will be a notable improvement.
Suhweeet! Can't wait for the review. Maybe a worthy upgrade at long last!
You're on a first gen i7, clock for clock Zen will be a notable improvement.
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#5360436 Posted on: 11/18/2016 09:10 PM
Agreed. To my understanding, current-gen Excavator parts are faster than first-gen i5s (or at least an i7 with HT off - I don't think there are any Excavator parts with more than 4 threads). Even if Zen has less than half the performance gain over Excavator that AMD claimed, it will still be a worthy upgrade.
You're on a first gen i7, clock for clock Zen will be a notable improvement.
Agreed. To my understanding, current-gen Excavator parts are faster than first-gen i5s (or at least an i7 with HT off - I don't think there are any Excavator parts with more than 4 threads). Even if Zen has less than half the performance gain over Excavator that AMD claimed, it will still be a worthy upgrade.
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#5360440 Posted on: 11/18/2016 09:22 PM
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
i feel this very true also..going that cheap is not gonna make them gain any profits
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
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#5360442 Posted on: 11/18/2016 09:28 PM
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
Very true. Let's not forget about ARM platforms too. Take CHIP for example - it's a quad core (RAM, wifi, bluetooth, and 4GB of storage) in a $9 PC. In many cases, it costs more to ship and accessorize it. Sure, it's horribly slow compared to desktop quad cores, but it shows how little it costs to manufacture some of these things. Don't forget - CHIP isn't a non-profit project.
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
Very true. Let's not forget about ARM platforms too. Take CHIP for example - it's a quad core (RAM, wifi, bluetooth, and 4GB of storage) in a $9 PC. In many cases, it costs more to ship and accessorize it. Sure, it's horribly slow compared to desktop quad cores, but it shows how little it costs to manufacture some of these things. Don't forget - CHIP isn't a non-profit project.
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#5360445 Posted on: 11/18/2016 09:40 PM
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
Aye and the GPU in modern Intel CPU takes about half of the die.
You obviously don't understand how cheap these things are to make. A 1.75Bn transistor i7-6700k, is six times smaller than a Fury which comes with its own PCB, cooling system, and 4GB of the most expensive memory you can buy. The GPU sells at $300 and still makes a small profit.
The amount of skinning that we get from Intel (and NVIDIA to an extent) is quite phenomenal actually.
Aye and the GPU in modern Intel CPU takes about half of the die.
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If the price to performance ratio is right it might be a good upgrade , no more 4 cores cpus for me , 8+ real cores with HT from now on it's what i'm looking for on my next build. There is hope left