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AMD X570 chipset gets PCI Express 4.0 and USB 3.1 gen2
As we get closer to the Computex announcements with hopefully some good NAVI and Ryzen 3000 info, we all klnow there will be a new chipset from AMD as well. It's not likely to be a massive upgrade chipset as the procs mostly are backward compatible with X370/X470.
According to new sources (which always need a disclaimer and a few grains of salt), the new generation of AMD Seriers 500 motherboards would, however, have a number of differences: the B550 chipset would not support PCIe 4.0, which would be exclusive to X570 boards.
- USB 3.2 Gen 1: originally known as USB 3.0, and previously renamed to USB 3.1 Gen 1. It’s the original USB 3.0 specification, and it can transfer data at up to 5Gbps.
- USB 3.2 Gen 2: Previously known as USB 3.1, and then later as USB 3.1 Gen 2. It offers speeds at up to 10Gbps.
- USB 3.2 Gen 2x2: formally known as USB 3.2, it’s the newest and fastest spec, promising speeds at up to 20Gbps (by using two lanes of 10Gbps at once).
The X570 chipset would have 40 PCIe lanes, although some of those lanes would have been shared with the SATA interface. These boards would allow for eight USB 3.1 gen2 ports (10 Gbps), in addition to four USB 2.0 connections (but not USB 3.2 Gen2 )
X570
The third generation of Ryzen processors would not be compatible with the A320 chipset, although it is claimed that there are practically no differences between B350 and A320. The X570 boards should be on the shelves from July, with B550 arriving two months later.
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#5664540 Posted on: 04/30/2019 12:40 PM
So... what do we get PCIe 4.0 for? Are there devices out already that I missed?
Since they probably won't support this mainboard longer than a year /Zen2+ / Rzen 4xxx), when they will probably switch on to DDR5, thus making a new IMC needed with the CPUs, I don't see me needing PCIe4.0 right now.
Just saying this because there's rumors circulating saying PCIe 4.0 is giving manufacturers trouble... well, just leave it be for now, and give us stable BIOS and hardware, thanks dear manufacturers.
Someone has to start. Apparently platform is 1st to go...
There would be no reason to make PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive that could run twice as fast as PCIe 3.0 if paired with compatible MB when there would be no MB in sight for next year. Technology investment would make such product too expensive and it would fail.
While having MB compatibility 1st does not drastically increase cost and those who buy it may reap benefits later. Then this is AMD. They make GPUs, right? As they can make PCIe 4.0 capable CPU, chipset, there is no reason to believe that they can't make PCIe 4.0 capable graphics.
So... what do we get PCIe 4.0 for? Are there devices out already that I missed?
Since they probably won't support this mainboard longer than a year /Zen2+ / Rzen 4xxx), when they will probably switch on to DDR5, thus making a new IMC needed with the CPUs, I don't see me needing PCIe4.0 right now.
Just saying this because there's rumors circulating saying PCIe 4.0 is giving manufacturers trouble... well, just leave it be for now, and give us stable BIOS and hardware, thanks dear manufacturers.
Someone has to start. Apparently platform is 1st to go...
There would be no reason to make PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive that could run twice as fast as PCIe 3.0 if paired with compatible MB when there would be no MB in sight for next year. Technology investment would make such product too expensive and it would fail.
While having MB compatibility 1st does not drastically increase cost and those who buy it may reap benefits later. Then this is AMD. They make GPUs, right? As they can make PCIe 4.0 capable CPU, chipset, there is no reason to believe that they can't make PCIe 4.0 capable graphics.
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#5664541 Posted on: 04/30/2019 12:40 PM
@Koniakki hehe agreed ! 3 gen 58 supreme speedy gen 8! Really they should have gone with 4 when they doubled the speed of usb 3.0 and just use 3.1 3.2 for middle steps etc etc up to usb 3 things where nice and simple.
@Koniakki hehe agreed ! 3 gen 58 supreme speedy gen 8! Really they should have gone with 4 when they doubled the speed of usb 3.0 and just use 3.1 3.2 for middle steps etc etc up to usb 3 things where nice and simple.
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#5664577 Posted on: 04/30/2019 02:21 PM
I think this 40 PCIEx lines should be counted as follows:
From CPU - we get 24 lines, 16 for GPU, 4 lines for NVMe and 4 for chipset downlink - 24 together
From chipset as on the ss in the article 8 + 4 + 4 - 16 together and 4+4 can be used for additional SATA connections
Together CPU and chipset offers 24+16 lines.
For me nothing in the ss suggests 40 lines form the chipset alone.
I think this 40 PCIEx lines should be counted as follows:
From CPU - we get 24 lines, 16 for GPU, 4 lines for NVMe and 4 for chipset downlink - 24 together
From chipset as on the ss in the article 8 + 4 + 4 - 16 together and 4+4 can be used for additional SATA connections
Together CPU and chipset offers 24+16 lines.
For me nothing in the ss suggests 40 lines form the chipset alone.
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#5664589 Posted on: 04/30/2019 03:05 PM
Finally can have the bandwidth again without having to resort to Intel HEDT
Oh wait sli is dead never mind
Finally can have the bandwidth again without having to resort to Intel HEDT
Oh wait sli is dead never mind
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gettinggot out of hand FAST !Fixed.
Yeah it already got out of had a while ago. :p