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AMD Will Release a Raven Ridge APU Graphics driver once each Three Months
Those who have bought a Raven Ridge Based APU have been experiencing a bit of a hard time drivers wise. When the APUs first released, the driver set was separated from the Radeon Software branch. Later on, AMD promised to add the driver set towards the existing Adrenalin install based drivers.
However, as the adopters of AMD Ryzen 3 2200G and AMD Ryzen 5 2500X, driver support has been lacking. And for an APU with low-level gaming capabilities, that means they miss out on the better game optimization that dedicated graphics card owners do take advantage of. Early May AMD released an Adrenalin driver that included support for Raven Ridge, making a lot of people happy. From there onwards it was expected that all Adrenalin driver would get APU support. As it turns out now, things are not as unified on a driver level at it seems. Recent Radeon driver updates all lacked Raven Ridge support.
As it turns out now, there will be a driver for Raven Ridge every three months. Social media manager Matt, from AMD, responded with the announcement that only the WHQL versions of the drivers will include RR support and these are released once every three months, these thus offer support for the APUs. That means that any hotfix or beta driver will not support Raven Ridge APUs. And yes, that is going to disappoint a lot of consumers, as they really would like that 0-day game support on their APUs as well.
It's a little weird to see, Intel is moving to 0-day game support with their drivers for IGPs, and AMD is falling back to just four drivers per year for their APUs. Then again, at least you get four sets of WHQL drivers for your APU each year.
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#5558232 Posted on: 06/18/2018 10:54 AM
I was thinking why intel is doing patches for driver at all. I think intel driver stable functionality is all you need.
I was thinking why intel is doing patches for driver at all. I think intel driver stable functionality is all you need.
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#5558237 Posted on: 06/18/2018 11:19 AM
Practicing for their gaming gpu's of 2020?
I was thinking why intel is doing patches for driver at all. I think intel driver stable functionality is all you need.
Practicing for their gaming gpu's of 2020?
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#5558239 Posted on: 06/18/2018 11:25 AM
That's exactly what i was thinking.
Maybe Intel wants a GPU driver team who performs better than AMD GPU (sleeping) Tiger team.
It's not a big challenge if their goal is something different than adding social connectors or fancy color backgrounds.
LOL
Practicing for their gaming gpu's of 2020?
That's exactly what i was thinking.
Maybe Intel wants a GPU driver team who performs better than AMD GPU (sleeping) Tiger team.
It's not a big challenge if their goal is something different than adding social connectors or fancy color backgrounds.
LOL
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#5558247 Posted on: 06/18/2018 12:39 PM
Hilbert can you ask AMD what on earth is happening with their drivers for the 2500U and 2700U as we are still using the very first release drivers and it's been nearly 10 months now and there is zero support from either HP/others and AMD they don't even answer their emails, or forums questions too. It is very very frustrating to have a new platform with absolute no support and no one seems to give a fly fk. The platform is broken you have screen corruption and new games won't even run due to the vastly out of date drivers and pressure needs to be applied to AMD and the OEM to get their finger out and do something.
Thanks.
Hilbert can you ask AMD what on earth is happening with their drivers for the 2500U and 2700U as we are still using the very first release drivers and it's been nearly 10 months now and there is zero support from either HP/others and AMD they don't even answer their emails, or forums questions too. It is very very frustrating to have a new platform with absolute no support and no one seems to give a fly fk. The platform is broken you have screen corruption and new games won't even run due to the vastly out of date drivers and pressure needs to be applied to AMD and the OEM to get their finger out and do something.
Thanks.
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#5558274 Posted on: 06/18/2018 02:17 PM
Maybe because they still do not have proper support for Vulkan on large number of iGPUs which have HW features required by Vulkan and therefore should be supported?
I was thinking why intel is doing patches for driver at all. I think intel driver stable functionality is all you need.
Maybe because they still do not have proper support for Vulkan on large number of iGPUs which have HW features required by Vulkan and therefore should be supported?
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#5558280 Posted on: 06/18/2018 02:34 PM
That's what happens when you buy a pre built HP computer Dazz you end up reliant on the 3rd party vendor.
You cant blame AMD for that.
Hope they pull their finger out soon for you.
I do think a driver update every 12 weeks for this platform is plenty.
That's what happens when you buy a pre built HP computer Dazz you end up reliant on the 3rd party vendor.
You cant blame AMD for that.
Hope they pull their finger out soon for you.
I do think a driver update every 12 weeks for this platform is plenty.
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#5558297 Posted on: 06/18/2018 03:16 PM
That's what happens when you buy a pre built HP computer Dazz you end up reliant on the 3rd party vendor.
You cant blame AMD for that.
Hope they pull their finger out soon for you.
I do think a driver update every 12 weeks for this platform is plenty.
Wish it was just HP, but Dell, Acer and lenovo are all in the same boat. Basically it's all mobile Ryzen platforms.
That's what happens when you buy a pre built HP computer Dazz you end up reliant on the 3rd party vendor.
You cant blame AMD for that.
Hope they pull their finger out soon for you.
I do think a driver update every 12 weeks for this platform is plenty.
Wish it was just HP, but Dell, Acer and lenovo are all in the same boat. Basically it's all mobile Ryzen platforms.
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#5558348 Posted on: 06/18/2018 06:00 PM
What's so difficult about releasing drivers when needed? I don't really see the point in a scheduled update for a piece of software that is perpetually evolving.
Doesn't really affect me though - I don't have any APUs, and my only AMD GPUs are all pretty outdated.
What's so difficult about releasing drivers when needed? I don't really see the point in a scheduled update for a piece of software that is perpetually evolving.
Doesn't really affect me though - I don't have any APUs, and my only AMD GPUs are all pretty outdated.
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#5558404 Posted on: 06/18/2018 08:50 PM
Hilbert can you ask AMD what on earth is happening with their drivers for the 2500U and 2700U as we are still using the very first release drivers and it's been nearly 10 months now and there is zero support from either HP/others and AMD they don't even answer their emails, or forums questions too. It is very very frustrating to have a new platform with absolute no support and no one seems to give a fly fk. The platform is broken you have screen corruption and new games won't even run due to the vastly out of date drivers and pressure needs to be applied to AMD and the OEM to get their finger out and do something.
Thanks.
When you buy OEM products like that the support comes from the OEM--very similar to the way it works with laptops--well, most laptops, anyway. HP is the company to write in your case, imo, as your driver updates may come exclusively through them. Have you checked the last WHQL Adrenalin driver release from AMD to see if your product is supported there?
Hilbert can you ask AMD what on earth is happening with their drivers for the 2500U and 2700U as we are still using the very first release drivers and it's been nearly 10 months now and there is zero support from either HP/others and AMD they don't even answer their emails, or forums questions too. It is very very frustrating to have a new platform with absolute no support and no one seems to give a fly fk. The platform is broken you have screen corruption and new games won't even run due to the vastly out of date drivers and pressure needs to be applied to AMD and the OEM to get their finger out and do something.
Thanks.
When you buy OEM products like that the support comes from the OEM--very similar to the way it works with laptops--well, most laptops, anyway. HP is the company to write in your case, imo, as your driver updates may come exclusively through them. Have you checked the last WHQL Adrenalin driver release from AMD to see if your product is supported there?
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#5558415 Posted on: 06/18/2018 09:48 PM
The only way to get the drivers to work from AMD is to force install them as Vega 8, if i use the APU drivers it works great but i can't use the software function and you tube etc crashes no doubt due to specific files being way out of date since i am sure the drivers weren't designed to work with the control panel 17.7 and you lose the ability to control the brightness of the screen. Since thats how old the drivers are there are no Adrenalin revisions available, they are should i say Alpha drivers thats already horribly unstable. However i did install the Adrenalin Edition 18.5.1 for the AMD FX mobile APU and it works great, except the AMD control panel refuses to load up as it's not correctly identify the graphics card but i do have screen brightness control and if i launch an application it flickers for about 10 seconds and then it's fine. So if they added the hardware ID into the drivers the software would install correctly and everything would be great.
Prior to Ryze, AMD provided drivers for ALL AMD Mobile APU's and mobile graphics there are no changes they really need to make to them, my HP 4500M i could always go to the AMD site and download the latest drivers without issues. All AMD Ryzen mobile APU's have two hardware ID's one for the 2500U and another for the 2700U, TDP etc doesn't matter since this is handled by the motherboard and it's BIOS and there is no specific memory types configurations etc like you would with a mobile discrete graphics card. So where it might be applicable it's the OEM that provides the drivers it's graphics built into the die and should have no real bearing if provided by AMD or the OEM. However again this is not specific to HP, but Acer, Dell and lenovo none of them have Adrenalin drivers. Which if it was an OEM sure yeah i could see it being their fault but every OEM??? This to me sounds more like AMD is not passing their driver builds along.
I may also try the Windows CAT drivers again but they typical do not provide the AMD control panel either which is why their drivers are so small and like before have to manually force them to install them as Vega 8, since Vega mobile is not in the drivers at all.
The only way to get the drivers to work from AMD is to force install them as Vega 8, if i use the APU drivers it works great but i can't use the software function and you tube etc crashes no doubt due to specific files being way out of date since i am sure the drivers weren't designed to work with the control panel 17.7 and you lose the ability to control the brightness of the screen. Since thats how old the drivers are there are no Adrenalin revisions available, they are should i say Alpha drivers thats already horribly unstable. However i did install the Adrenalin Edition 18.5.1 for the AMD FX mobile APU and it works great, except the AMD control panel refuses to load up as it's not correctly identify the graphics card but i do have screen brightness control and if i launch an application it flickers for about 10 seconds and then it's fine. So if they added the hardware ID into the drivers the software would install correctly and everything would be great.
Prior to Ryze, AMD provided drivers for ALL AMD Mobile APU's and mobile graphics there are no changes they really need to make to them, my HP 4500M i could always go to the AMD site and download the latest drivers without issues. All AMD Ryzen mobile APU's have two hardware ID's one for the 2500U and another for the 2700U, TDP etc doesn't matter since this is handled by the motherboard and it's BIOS and there is no specific memory types configurations etc like you would with a mobile discrete graphics card. So where it might be applicable it's the OEM that provides the drivers it's graphics built into the die and should have no real bearing if provided by AMD or the OEM. However again this is not specific to HP, but Acer, Dell and lenovo none of them have Adrenalin drivers. Which if it was an OEM sure yeah i could see it being their fault but every OEM??? This to me sounds more like AMD is not passing their driver builds along.
I may also try the Windows CAT drivers again but they typical do not provide the AMD control panel either which is why their drivers are so small and like before have to manually force them to install them as Vega 8, since Vega mobile is not in the drivers at all.
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Even though I have one now, I'm not sure more than those updates are needed... it's not like that APU is the killer gaming chip that needs to match every upcoming game's release with a game ready patch