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AMD: We're not abandoning socketed CPUs
If have been reading the news closely then a week or so ago you might have noticed those slightly worrying rumors about Intel ditching socketed CPUs in 2014. Intel hasn't sought to confirm or deny the speculation. AMD, however, has now chimed in, saying its plans are quite different. Here's the statement from AMD's Chris Hook.
AMD has a long history of supporting the DIY and enthusiast desktop market with socketed CPUs & APUs that are compatible with a wide range of motherboard products from our partners. That will continue through 2013 and 2014 with the "Kaveri" APU and FX CPU lines. We have no plans
As the company that introduced new types of BGA packages in ultrathin platforms several years ago, and today offers BGA-packaged processors for everything from ultrathin notebooks to all-in-one desktops, to embedded applications and tablets, we certainly understand Intel's enthusiasm for the approach. But for the desktop market, and the enthusiasts with whom AMD has built its brand, we understand what matters to them and how we can continue to bring better value and a better experience.
That's reassuring, to some degree, to know at least one of the two major CPU vendors isn't abandoning us.
Of course, given AMD's recent struggles, it's hard to predict what the company's product offerings will look like in 2014—and whether enthusiasts can really expect compelling desktop solutions. There have been whispers about AMD possibly putting itself up for sale (though AMD itself denies these allegations), and just last week, AMD took out the corporate equivalent of a home equity loan to free up cash. The chipmaker has also said it intends to deliver ARM-based processors alongside x86 chips for servers in 2014 - via tech report.
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#4471824 Posted on: 12/05/2012 11:12 AM
agree with ^
agree with ^
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#4471929 Posted on: 12/05/2012 01:54 PM
Inb4 someone comes in and says 'but will AMD still be around by then'
Inb4 someone comes in and says 'but will AMD still be around by then'
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#4471933 Posted on: 12/05/2012 01:58 PM
and so what.? even if intel ditch socketed cpus will be faster/better again...it's like kind a law of computer science or physics...
i believe amd just cannot risk a chance of changes on the way they produce their products, innovation is not an option anymore...
and so what.? even if intel ditch socketed cpus will be faster/better again...it's like kind a law of computer science or physics...
i believe amd just cannot risk a chance of changes on the way they produce their products, innovation is not an option anymore...
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#4472026 Posted on: 12/05/2012 03:44 PM
Woo, go AMD
Woo, go AMD
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#4472044 Posted on: 12/05/2012 03:58 PM
If you really think Intel will abandon a market I have a very nice bridge I will sell you. The enthusiast market is worth its weight in marketing gold alone.
If you really think Intel will abandon a market I have a very nice bridge I will sell you. The enthusiast market is worth its weight in marketing gold alone.
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#4472075 Posted on: 12/05/2012 04:28 PM
They aren't, the report even said they aren't, yet people here didn't even read article. Not even to mention the fact that people can't see outside their little square box, any change to that and they freak and panic. It's funny too -- because I feel like when I talk to older people, when you change an interface or something, they get all panicky and freak out about change, I always felt like the younger generation wouldn't have this problem because they are used to adapting to constant change. And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out, they don't even consider any upsides to it, or the reasons why, or anything.
If you really think Intel will abandon a market I have a very nice bridge I will sell you. The enthusiast market is worth its weight in marketing gold alone.
They aren't, the report even said they aren't, yet people here didn't even read article. Not even to mention the fact that people can't see outside their little square box, any change to that and they freak and panic. It's funny too -- because I feel like when I talk to older people, when you change an interface or something, they get all panicky and freak out about change, I always felt like the younger generation wouldn't have this problem because they are used to adapting to constant change. And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out, they don't even consider any upsides to it, or the reasons why, or anything.
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#4472126 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:13 PM
Well, having to solder a $250 CPU to a $150 MB without ever soldering anything before (and this type is very precision soldering mind you, with tons of pins), so yeah, the prospect of it would be rather freaky. The old timers will freak out because their eyesight isnt waht it used to so it would be a pain to see.
They aren't, the report even said they aren't, yet people here didn't even read article. Not even to mention the fact that people can't see outside their little square box, any change to that and they freak and panic. It's funny too -- because I feel like when I talk to older people, when you change an interface or something, they get all panicky and freak out about change, I always felt like the younger generation wouldn't have this problem because they are used to adapting to constant change. And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out, they don't even consider any upsides to it, or the reasons why, or anything.
Well, having to solder a $250 CPU to a $150 MB without ever soldering anything before (and this type is very precision soldering mind you, with tons of pins), so yeah, the prospect of it would be rather freaky. The old timers will freak out because their eyesight isnt waht it used to so it would be a pain to see.
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#4472141 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:24 PM
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Well, having to solder a $250 CPU to a $150 MB without ever soldering anything before (and this type is very precision soldering mind you, with tons of pins), so yeah, the prospect of it would be rather freaky. The old timers will freak out because their eyesight isnt waht it used to so it would be a pain to see.
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#4472142 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:24 PM
Yeah I didn't get it either lol -- I'm assuming it's because i said socket instead of chip or maybe it's because the sentence is worded as it sounds like I'm saying people will have to do it and not that it's being bought like that
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Yeah I didn't get it either lol -- I'm assuming it's because i said socket instead of chip or maybe it's because the sentence is worded as it sounds like I'm saying people will have to do it and not that it's being bought like that
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#4472145 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:27 PM
After reading it 16 times, I think the point of contention is "And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out"
Yeah I didn't get it either lol -- I'm assuming it's because i said socket instead of chip or maybe it's because the sentence is worded as it sounds like I'm saying people will have to do it and not that it's being bought like that
After reading it 16 times, I think the point of contention is "And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out"
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#4472148 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:31 PM
Yeah, the sentence is worded in a way that makes it sound like someone is going to have solder a socket onto a motherboard. It should be a chip onto a motherboard and the person doing the soldering is all ****ed up -- corrected:
"And yet, when it comes to receiving a chip soldered into a motherboard, people just freak out"
bam son, we just solved global warming
After reading it 16 times, I think the point of contention is "And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out"
Yeah, the sentence is worded in a way that makes it sound like someone is going to have solder a socket onto a motherboard. It should be a chip onto a motherboard and the person doing the soldering is all ****ed up -- corrected:
"And yet, when it comes to receiving a chip soldered into a motherboard, people just freak out"
bam son, we just solved global warming
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#4472170 Posted on: 12/05/2012 05:50 PM
They said they will keep on making Enthusiast high end cpus, but lets break it down a bit.
What is Enthusiast? Will people like me be able to afford these Enthusiast chips. I have 3 kids to feed on a 7 pound an hour income.
I can't afford to spend 200+ pound on a cpu and the mobos are usually a bit more expensive as well.
Last intel i had was a pentium 2 ^^. Not because i don't want one but to get one it would have to be a k series one and they have been out of reach for me price wise.
I'd think the cpu+mobo combo built together would be plug+play and throw away. I doubt they will be good overclockers like the k series.
They'll want the combo to have a short life like modern gfx cards. 18 months to 2 years and it'll be in the bin.
I've had this AMD 955 cpu now since 2009 i think. I know its showing its age now but running @ 3.8ghz it still works well enough.
If AMD were to die i would prolly be forced into buying the combo type set up and that might suck.
Of course they would be intel chips on intel boards, so what would that mean for mobo makers.
Most people here love to tinker with there system bios or software to enhance performance and if you don't you still like the idea that you can if you wish. I doubt intel will want the combo set ups tinkered with. So you'll prolly get a boost clock and no OCing or very little anyway.
They aren't, the report even said they aren't, yet people here didn't even read article. Not even to mention the fact that people can't see outside their little square box, any change to that and they freak and panic. It's funny too -- because I feel like when I talk to older people, when you change an interface or something, they get all panicky and freak out about change, I always felt like the younger generation wouldn't have this problem because they are used to adapting to constant change. And yet, when it comes to soldering a socket onto a motherboard, people just freak out, they don't even consider any upsides to it, or the reasons why, or anything.
They said they will keep on making Enthusiast high end cpus, but lets break it down a bit.
What is Enthusiast? Will people like me be able to afford these Enthusiast chips. I have 3 kids to feed on a 7 pound an hour income.
I can't afford to spend 200+ pound on a cpu and the mobos are usually a bit more expensive as well.
Last intel i had was a pentium 2 ^^. Not because i don't want one but to get one it would have to be a k series one and they have been out of reach for me price wise.
I'd think the cpu+mobo combo built together would be plug+play and throw away. I doubt they will be good overclockers like the k series.
They'll want the combo to have a short life like modern gfx cards. 18 months to 2 years and it'll be in the bin.
I've had this AMD 955 cpu now since 2009 i think. I know its showing its age now but running @ 3.8ghz it still works well enough.
If AMD were to die i would prolly be forced into buying the combo type set up and that might suck.
Of course they would be intel chips on intel boards, so what would that mean for mobo makers.
Most people here love to tinker with there system bios or software to enhance performance and if you don't you still like the idea that you can if you wish. I doubt intel will want the combo set ups tinkered with. So you'll prolly get a boost clock and no OCing or very little anyway.
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#4472362 Posted on: 12/05/2012 08:50 PM
maybe what intel meant is intel Extreme Edition CPU is still gonna be in the form of a socket,
while intel low and mid range cpu is gonna be soldered on the mobo,
well i only bought mid range cpu, so i think i'm gonna use AMD,
because i want to be able to choose for myself,
and not pick from what intel is offering from their combination of mobo with cpu soldered in it,
cos i don't trust that intel will combine the best i can get for CPU + Mobo for a good and still affordable price for me.
maybe what intel meant is intel Extreme Edition CPU is still gonna be in the form of a socket,
while intel low and mid range cpu is gonna be soldered on the mobo,
well i only bought mid range cpu, so i think i'm gonna use AMD,
because i want to be able to choose for myself,
and not pick from what intel is offering from their combination of mobo with cpu soldered in it,
cos i don't trust that intel will combine the best i can get for CPU + Mobo for a good and still affordable price for me.
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#4472372 Posted on: 12/05/2012 09:03 PM
It's more likely they would sell the CPUs to OEMs who then have it soldered in the manufacturing process to their own motherboards.
It's more likely they would sell the CPUs to OEMs who then have it soldered in the manufacturing process to their own motherboards.
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