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AMD Vega To get 20K Units Released at launch and new Zen+ chatter
The ongoing rumors about Radeon RX Vega are just, on-going. In the latest news it is reported that there will be 20K Units for Vega available state some media. There might be news about Zen+ inbound as well.
This particular Vega rumor comes from Tweaktown who decided that news from HardwareSfera is an "exclusive industry source. Other than that there are no credible leads or facts on this info, but yeah apparently they would launch with a maximum of 20K units. Which actually makes sense, as most releases in the high-end see such numbers typically. The volume availability might be a bit more limited due to the fact that HBM2 still is in short supply.
There’s another rumor floating on the web that claims that AMD will reveal more info on Vega-, Navi- and Zen+-architecture op May 16th. Here the information was derived from a pending Financial Analyst Day where the CEO of AMD will speech a bit. How the media gets to the fact that she’ll talk about Vega-, Navi- and Zen+-architecture, I have no idea. New technology roadmaps are expected to be released as well.
In an AMA on Reddit AMD already stated they will prolong ZEN architecture with Zen2 and Zen3 as Zen+.The first iteration of these would be Pinacle Ridge with a release in 2018. This series should get another 15% IPC improvement.
So likely next week we’ll hear a bit more on Vega and ZEN+, AMD will also be live-streaming the event.
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#5430149 Posted on: 05/10/2017 02:22 PM
AMD Raven Ridge APU spotted in SiSoftware database
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_system.php?q=cea598ab9faa9eaa9cbadde0cdfcdaa895a583ead7e6c0a895a086fec3f2d4b1d4e9d9ff8cb189&l=de
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/43613-amd-quad-core-raven-ridge-apu-spotted
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
Hell, Yeah!But even this time it will be miracle to get decent 12" notebook.
AMD Raven Ridge APU spotted in SiSoftware database
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_system.php?q=cea598ab9faa9eaa9cbadde0cdfcdaa895a583ead7e6c0a895a086fec3f2d4b1d4e9d9ff8cb189&l=de
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/43613-amd-quad-core-raven-ridge-apu-spotted
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
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#5430158 Posted on: 05/10/2017 03:06 PM
Just a little...
We all know crimes and justice (legal punishment) are relative to defendant wealth, specially in Western countries where expensive attorneys make a HUGE difference in any lawsuit result.
This is not philosophical anymore...It's everyday reality.
Couldn't agree more. But we went way too offtopic
Just a little...
We all know crimes and justice (legal punishment) are relative to defendant wealth, specially in Western countries where expensive attorneys make a HUGE difference in any lawsuit result.
This is not philosophical anymore...It's everyday reality.
Couldn't agree more. But we went way too offtopic
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#5430213 Posted on: 05/10/2017 05:53 PM
Your argument is funny. Needed the humor...yearly audit prep work pressure. "Typically" means you better have a sound argument why there is a deviation from not presenting those as such. If one can present why the deviation would unfairly misrepresent how the company is actually doing, then the deviation would be accepted but also the deviation would be disclosed in the 10K or 10Q and not as a footnote, a section all its own detailing what the impact would have been if accounted for in the way the rest of industry reports. You are correct in that they are "suggestions." The whole basis of accounting is that of a dynamically changing framework. Business evolves and so does presenting financial information for comparative purposes. What you have hit on is that R&D can differ from industry to industry. The key being industry wide acceptance/practice. Your argument is too loose. Have you ever looked at Intel's, AMD's, Nvidia's financials? You would see that not everything is accepted as R&D. Since the understanding is not completely there, it makes sense why the argument is put forth. Rest assured those that know what they are doing are being paid well to do so. Do not forget about the independent audit firms. They are not there to uncover f*r*a*u*d (some reason the word is censored). They are there to make sure that the financials being presented do no materially present a different picture from the supporting details and analysis.
There are tax implications as well that need to be taken into account. Have to realize companies want to show as much expense as possible to lessen their income tax liability. That is why the requirement of the Cash Flow Statement is included in those SEC filed reports. One cannot just look at the two big traditional statements and obtain a complete picture of how healthy the company is. That is also why in the 10k's there is always mention of how the entity is aligned with the industry and how the outlook of the industry as a whole is headed and doing economically; typically part of the MDA section of the report. That is why Intel's or Nvidia's financial dealings are very important to AMD. They are an indication of how the industry as a whole is doing. Like has been stated by AMD themselves that there are two major companies that produce high end cpus and gpus. AMD happens to do both. All of which circles back to industry wide acceptance of what is considered R&D and what is not. Big picture stuff...not trees, forest.
Look at what you skipped over in your over zealous presentation, what needs to be left out of the R&D disclosure...What the expense actually represents, since that would be an indicator to competitors what they could do to out do you in the market. This is where all your argument is actually based, not where you think it is. Not being an accountant type, it just was not understood what they were communicating in the pronouncement.
...Basically justifying that companies can pretty much say whatever they want about it as long as their expenses are properly filed as such and not as investment.
Your argument is funny. Needed the humor...yearly audit prep work pressure. "Typically" means you better have a sound argument why there is a deviation from not presenting those as such. If one can present why the deviation would unfairly misrepresent how the company is actually doing, then the deviation would be accepted but also the deviation would be disclosed in the 10K or 10Q and not as a footnote, a section all its own detailing what the impact would have been if accounted for in the way the rest of industry reports. You are correct in that they are "suggestions." The whole basis of accounting is that of a dynamically changing framework. Business evolves and so does presenting financial information for comparative purposes. What you have hit on is that R&D can differ from industry to industry. The key being industry wide acceptance/practice. Your argument is too loose. Have you ever looked at Intel's, AMD's, Nvidia's financials? You would see that not everything is accepted as R&D. Since the understanding is not completely there, it makes sense why the argument is put forth. Rest assured those that know what they are doing are being paid well to do so. Do not forget about the independent audit firms. They are not there to uncover f*r*a*u*d (some reason the word is censored). They are there to make sure that the financials being presented do no materially present a different picture from the supporting details and analysis.
There are tax implications as well that need to be taken into account. Have to realize companies want to show as much expense as possible to lessen their income tax liability. That is why the requirement of the Cash Flow Statement is included in those SEC filed reports. One cannot just look at the two big traditional statements and obtain a complete picture of how healthy the company is. That is also why in the 10k's there is always mention of how the entity is aligned with the industry and how the outlook of the industry as a whole is headed and doing economically; typically part of the MDA section of the report. That is why Intel's or Nvidia's financial dealings are very important to AMD. They are an indication of how the industry as a whole is doing. Like has been stated by AMD themselves that there are two major companies that produce high end cpus and gpus. AMD happens to do both. All of which circles back to industry wide acceptance of what is considered R&D and what is not. Big picture stuff...not trees, forest.
Look at what you skipped over in your over zealous presentation, what needs to be left out of the R&D disclosure...What the expense actually represents, since that would be an indicator to competitors what they could do to out do you in the market. This is where all your argument is actually based, not where you think it is. Not being an accountant type, it just was not understood what they were communicating in the pronouncement.
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#5430225 Posted on: 05/10/2017 06:23 PM
AMD Raven Ridge APU spotted in SiSoftware database
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_system.php?q=cea598ab9faa9eaa9cbadde0cdfcdaa895a583ead7e6c0a895a086fec3f2d4b1d4e9d9ff8cb189&l=de
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/43613-amd-quad-core-raven-ridge-apu-spotted
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
If this is really true that puts it about the level of a 270. For an APU, that is incredible.
AMD Raven Ridge APU spotted in SiSoftware database
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_system.php?q=cea598ab9faa9eaa9cbadde0cdfcdaa895a583ead7e6c0a895a086fec3f2d4b1d4e9d9ff8cb189&l=de
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/43613-amd-quad-core-raven-ridge-apu-spotted
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
If this is really true that puts it about the level of a 270. For an APU, that is incredible.
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Yeah, while it's easy to blame Nvidia (I do that sometimes), in the end it makes perfect sense for Nvidia to do what they do. Nvidia knows how business works 1000% better than AMD. The real culprits are the game studios that think it's fine if AMD card owners can't enjoy the game because the majority of people have an Nvidia card anyway. Those devs are of course digging their own graves because a healthy situation in the GPU market would benefit them directly.
Personally I feel it would be the best if no game sported either Nvidia or AMD logo in their credits. It smells like corruption and nothing else.