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AMD VEGA10 now scheduled for October launch
The past few days a few rumors surfaced on the web, the GeForce GTX 1080 seems to be performing seriously good and as such AMD's board partners are in a bit of a fright. It seems only mainstream products will (likely) be launched in the Computex timeframe. Meaning there is no viable answer products wise in the higher-end to enthusiast segment to compete with Nvidia.
AMD was supposed to launch their high-end class VEGA (codename) product in early 2017, as it now seems that launch is being moved forward towards October. Realistically Nvidia isn't done, the 1080 will perform very nicely but they still have 'Big' Pascal GP100 on the shelves to answer any demand.
As the rumors goes (and they are just that) AMD decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10 from early-2017 aunch not to October 2016. Vega10 will be the GPU that replaces the Hawaii/Grenada series. Vega should hold HBM2 memory and that's the culprit, it is just not available in volume.
"Vega10" is lined up to replace the 390/490 series. Vega11 will replace the FIJI Fury parts. Rumors right now indicate that Vega10 has 4096 stream processors and could compete with the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11 would feature 6144 stream processors and would be lined against the GP100 big pascal GPU (think Titan).
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#5270592 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:36 PM
So Vega10 is the equivalent to 1080, and Vega11 that is supposed to go against "big" Pascal is still set for 2017 though, right? Either way, it was probably a good move by nvidia to go for GDDRX on "small" Pascal, as it stands they will have quite a headstart. Polaris Vega10 will go well with Battlefield 1 launch though, if they can pull it off so soon AND have HMB2...
So Vega10 is the equivalent to 1080, and Vega11 that is supposed to go against "big" Pascal is still set for 2017 though, right? Either way, it was probably a good move by nvidia to go for GDDRX on "small" Pascal, as it stands they will have quite a headstart. Polaris Vega10 will go well with Battlefield 1 launch though, if they can pull it off so soon AND have HMB2...
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#5270595 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:43 PM
Looks like Pascal is a real winner here
The 1070 at its price point should be a golden card.
GeForce GTX 1080 seems to be performing seriously good and as such AMD's board partners are in a bit of a fright.
Looks like Pascal is a real winner here
The 1070 at its price point should be a golden card.
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#5270598 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:46 PM
Well I know which card to get this year if true.
Well I know which card to get this year if true.
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#5270600 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:46 PM
Uh oh... seems some people overestimated Polaris *cough cough*
maybe Polaris isn't the magic tiny die that will take on nvidia's 50% larger die
Maybe AMD needs at least die size parity to match nvidia (big improvement over last gen nonetheless)
Uh oh... seems some people overestimated Polaris *cough cough*
maybe Polaris isn't the magic tiny die that will take on nvidia's 50% larger die
Maybe AMD needs at least die size parity to match nvidia (big improvement over last gen nonetheless)
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#5270603 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:47 PM
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
So Vega10 is the equivalent to 1080, and Vega11 that is supposed to go against "big" Pascal is still set for 2017 though, right? Either way, it was probably a good move by nvidia to go for GDDRX on "small" Pascal, as it stands they will have quite a headstart. Polaris Vega10 will go well with Battlefield 1 launch though, if they can pull it off so soon AND have HMB2...
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
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#5270606 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:54 PM
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
Don't, as stated many times... Raja Koduri himself said that numbers are just numbers and they may be anything with next generation or be gone again.
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
Don't, as stated many times... Raja Koduri himself said that numbers are just numbers and they may be anything with next generation or be gone again.
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#5270607 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:56 PM
Well Raja can say whatever he wants, if Polaris 10 is the big one, and Vega 10 is the small one, someone in AMD's decision-making structure deserves a kick in the nuts
In fact, I will argue that having arbitrarily chosen names for various GPUs using the same uarch is a terrible idea.
Don't, as stated many times... Raja Koduri himself said that numbers are just numbers and they may be anything with next generation or be gone again.
Well Raja can say whatever he wants, if Polaris 10 is the big one, and Vega 10 is the small one, someone in AMD's decision-making structure deserves a kick in the nuts
In fact, I will argue that having arbitrarily chosen names for various GPUs using the same uarch is a terrible idea.
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#5270609 Posted on: 05/11/2016 12:59 PM
Well Raja can say whatever he wants, if Polaris 10 is the big one, and Vega 10 is the small one, someone in AMD's decision-making structure deserves a kick in the nuts
In fact, I will argue that having arbitrarily chosen names for various GPUs using the same uarch is a terrible idea.
The numbers just represent which gpu went out first..
Well Raja can say whatever he wants, if Polaris 10 is the big one, and Vega 10 is the small one, someone in AMD's decision-making structure deserves a kick in the nuts
In fact, I will argue that having arbitrarily chosen names for various GPUs using the same uarch is a terrible idea.
The numbers just represent which gpu went out first..
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#5270611 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:00 PM
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
Just saw this:
Now I'm confused again lol.
Naming is all over the place. Polaris 10 is big, Polaris 11 is small. I'm gonna assume it's the same for vega
Vega 10 = New fury
Vega 11 = 490/x
Just saw this:
Now I'm confused again lol.
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#5270620 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:08 PM
Too many times AMD has made crazy claims when Intel or Nvidia actually comes out with real specs for a new product and too many times, we find there is no follow-through (think bulldozer).
Too many times AMD has made crazy claims when Intel or Nvidia actually comes out with real specs for a new product and too many times, we find there is no follow-through (think bulldozer).
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#5270621 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:09 PM
No, they don't, because Polaris 11 was demoed before 10, and neither of them are out.
Even if they were simply indicating which GPU was released first, that would be a doubly stupid naming scheme...
The numbers just represent which gpu went out first..
No, they don't, because Polaris 11 was demoed before 10, and neither of them are out.
Even if they were simply indicating which GPU was released first, that would be a doubly stupid naming scheme...
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#5270629 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:20 PM
No, they don't, because Polaris 11 was demoed before 10, and neither of them are out.
Even if they were simply indicating which GPU was released first, that would be a doubly stupid naming scheme...
Oh dear God.. At the beginning ppl figured that p 11 was the big one just because of the number but instead p10 is the big one... Read between the lines
I really dont understand what is so confusing here
p11 is the small one
p10 is the big one
vega could also have this numbering..
No, they don't, because Polaris 11 was demoed before 10, and neither of them are out.
Even if they were simply indicating which GPU was released first, that would be a doubly stupid naming scheme...
Oh dear God.. At the beginning ppl figured that p 11 was the big one just because of the number but instead p10 is the big one... Read between the lines
I really dont understand what is so confusing here
p11 is the small one
p10 is the big one
vega could also have this numbering..
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#5270631 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:21 PM
Just when AMD couldn't seem to be any more pathetic, they somehow manage to raise the bar.
Just when AMD couldn't seem to be any more pathetic, they somehow manage to raise the bar.
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#5270633 Posted on: 05/11/2016 01:22 PM
By giving us hbm 2.0 early?? Yeah that is really pathetic
Just when AMD couldn't seem to be any more pathetic, they somehow manage to raise the bar.
By giving us hbm 2.0 early?? Yeah that is really pathetic
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What is going on? Am I in no alternate dimension? What is the source for this rumor? Is it that random forum post from the other thread...?