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AMD to Release NVMe RAID Support for X399 September 25th
More news coming AMD is that the X399 motherboards will be supporting Bootable NVME RAID. A nice free upgrade I'd say. AMD got some heat recently, not having this feature available.
So to hook into that last topic, the feature was not available just yet. AMD will be releasing a free NVMe driver for the X399 platform. The new driver will enabled RAID 0, 1 and 10 with up-to 10 devices. If you wanted to RAID three M2 SSDs, now you can. You could in theory also add M2 SSDs on a PCI-Express add-in card and have these join the RAID group. It is not yet known if the feature is a chipset function or a software based solution.
The good news is that the new RAID driver is bootable. This however will require a BIOS update. The driver and BIOS updates should become available starting September 25th.
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#5468174 Posted on: 08/31/2017 04:54 PM
The ability to have 4+GB/s of read on SSD would be nice...
The ability to have 4+GB/s of read on SSD would be nice...
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#5468189 Posted on: 08/31/2017 05:37 PM
People are so petty sometimes. Oh boo-hoo, so what if M.2 didn't have RAID? Despite the slap in the face from Intel's X299 RAID situation, that didn't stop anyone from buying it, because anyone who actually cares about real-world performance and data integrity/backups will not depend on RAID. On M.2, you'll lose performance in most tasks with RAID, due to reduction in latency.
Somehow, people are forgetting these are quad-channel DDR4 boards. There are 128GB modules. If you want sheer write speeds, go for a RAM disk. Even sequential writes on a RAID0 M.2 array will pale in comparison. Meanwhile, the latency will be even better than a single M.2 drive.
These PCs are going to cost at least $2000 - might as well go all-out.
EDIT:
Also, for anyone who wanted RAID on NVMe drives, why didn't they just go for software RAID? I highly doubt the motherboards come with an integrated hardware controller, so CPU usage is going to go up regardless. Not that it matters - what else are you going to do with all those threads?
People are so petty sometimes. Oh boo-hoo, so what if M.2 didn't have RAID? Despite the slap in the face from Intel's X299 RAID situation, that didn't stop anyone from buying it, because anyone who actually cares about real-world performance and data integrity/backups will not depend on RAID. On M.2, you'll lose performance in most tasks with RAID, due to reduction in latency.
Somehow, people are forgetting these are quad-channel DDR4 boards. There are 128GB modules. If you want sheer write speeds, go for a RAM disk. Even sequential writes on a RAID0 M.2 array will pale in comparison. Meanwhile, the latency will be even better than a single M.2 drive.
These PCs are going to cost at least $2000 - might as well go all-out.
EDIT:
Also, for anyone who wanted RAID on NVMe drives, why didn't they just go for software RAID? I highly doubt the motherboards come with an integrated hardware controller, so CPU usage is going to go up regardless. Not that it matters - what else are you going to do with all those threads?
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#5468236 Posted on: 08/31/2017 08:20 PM
Don't flame me, but I have a question: under what circumstances does it make sense to go RAID on M2?
I've read an interesting article a couple of years ago @TH where they clearly stated that other than benchmarking there was no gain.
Of couse they could be wrong/outdated.
Also, can you have TRIM support on the RAID?
Real-time 8k video editing (ACES workflow, 8k, 16 bit EXR, 60 fps = 4 GB/s), VR-sets that don't fit in RAM. When you put 3 samsung 960 pro of 2 TB (with 25% overprovisioning) in raid 0(4,5 TB) you can achieve sequential R/W performance of 4.5 GB/s and 150.000 IOPS which should be enough for big VR-sets of around 15 minutes.
Don't flame me, but I have a question: under what circumstances does it make sense to go RAID on M2?
I've read an interesting article a couple of years ago @TH where they clearly stated that other than benchmarking there was no gain.
Of couse they could be wrong/outdated.
Also, can you have TRIM support on the RAID?
Real-time 8k video editing (ACES workflow, 8k, 16 bit EXR, 60 fps = 4 GB/s), VR-sets that don't fit in RAM. When you put 3 samsung 960 pro of 2 TB (with 25% overprovisioning) in raid 0(4,5 TB) you can achieve sequential R/W performance of 4.5 GB/s and 150.000 IOPS which should be enough for big VR-sets of around 15 minutes.
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#5468253 Posted on: 08/31/2017 09:15 PM
Schmidtbag is becoming my hero.
i fully planned on a 64gb set of ram for the threadripper 1900x (cannibalizing 32gb and buying another 32gb) for use as a ram disk.
and don't cha know - that will help gaming load times as well (tho i'd be playing as well as compiling, editing, or using my music suite at the same time - because its possible now).
:p
i hope availability is good both for 1900x and aorus gaming 7
Schmidtbag is becoming my hero.
i fully planned on a 64gb set of ram for the threadripper 1900x (cannibalizing 32gb and buying another 32gb) for use as a ram disk.
and don't cha know - that will help gaming load times as well (tho i'd be playing as well as compiling, editing, or using my music suite at the same time - because its possible now).
:pi hope availability is good both for 1900x and aorus gaming 7
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What, AMD not selling a key to unlock it?
I personally don't see the benefits of putting NVMe drives in RAID, but I don't deal with large amounts of data. At least people will stop complaining about it now.
Well, other than you know, the benefits of RAID