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AMD to release 3rd Gen Threadripper processors this year already
There's no slowing down AMD isn't there? AMD will release their third generation Threadripper processors this year already. A presentation slide from an investors briefing confirms that info to become a true fact. Obviously, there are no details about the CPUs series just yet.
The slide that shows AMD mentioning third Threadripper was spotted by Tom's Hardware. We all know Ryzen 3000 is due out for a release this year, 7nm, chiplet design and likely high clock frequencies on ZEN2 that go along with it. Ryzen series 3000 procs are expected to be released halfway this year.
Threadripper CPUs originally have been released just two years ago, and shook up and reshaped the market for Intel alright, that was Summer 2017 folks. The 2nd gen based in 12nm fabrication was released exactly a year later so we expect AMD to follow that timeframe, August 2019? The roadmap does mention it is subject to changes.
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#5647449 Posted on: 03/07/2019 06:04 PM
Intels problem isn't actual processor R&D, that is probably done for two or three future generations at this point. Their main problem has been process technology, ie. 10nm. If that worked, Ice Lake would've been out years ago.
This is a topic AMD isn't dealing with at all, since they just outsource that to TSMC, so its not really anything comparable. Its also not really something you can make go much faster with more money, since this stuff just takes forever (and already costs billions).
Once 10nm is actually out and stable, I fully expect Intel to "strike" far faster. And with any luck their next process won't suffer from the same delays, with the lessons they learned from 10nm.
So perhaps they are finally over the "hump" soon when 10nm launches in mainstream, and progress will resume, now that they actually have competition again.
I agree; that's pretty much what I meant, I just didn't phrase myself very well.
On top of all that, Intel has gone on record to say that they'll be designing future CPU cores less dependent on the process architecture, so even if a future process is delayed again, hopefully the next core architecture won't be directly married to it, and they can release it on a different node if need be.
I'm curious to see how that will turn out. The benefit you mentioned is a good one but node sizes aren't changing all that often anymore. I think the level of optimization Intel does with their nodes is what gets them such high clock speeds.
Intels problem isn't actual processor R&D, that is probably done for two or three future generations at this point. Their main problem has been process technology, ie. 10nm. If that worked, Ice Lake would've been out years ago.
This is a topic AMD isn't dealing with at all, since they just outsource that to TSMC, so its not really anything comparable. Its also not really something you can make go much faster with more money, since this stuff just takes forever (and already costs billions).
Once 10nm is actually out and stable, I fully expect Intel to "strike" far faster. And with any luck their next process won't suffer from the same delays, with the lessons they learned from 10nm.
So perhaps they are finally over the "hump" soon when 10nm launches in mainstream, and progress will resume, now that they actually have competition again.
I agree; that's pretty much what I meant, I just didn't phrase myself very well.
On top of all that, Intel has gone on record to say that they'll be designing future CPU cores less dependent on the process architecture, so even if a future process is delayed again, hopefully the next core architecture won't be directly married to it, and they can release it on a different node if need be.
I'm curious to see how that will turn out. The benefit you mentioned is a good one but node sizes aren't changing all that often anymore. I think the level of optimization Intel does with their nodes is what gets them such high clock speeds.
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#5647455 Posted on: 03/07/2019 06:21 PM
well "quickly" can mean quite a few different things. I definitely think that Intel will stop slacking and will get the 10nm process running by the end of the year.
I think in 2020 we will see a good Intel product. 2019 is the time for AMD to shine.
because Intel literally has their own fabs they are a lot more flexible in terms of changing processes and speeding things up. for AMD/Nvidia they basically rely on TSMC/GF if they miss their targets/goals or choose to focus on a different node/market(GF dropping 7nm plans, TSMC prioritizing mobile). there isn't much to be done.
The only part I don't agree with is the word "quickly". Intel is struggling to keep up with their own plans that had little to do with AMD, to the point that they're contracting TSMC. Intel has more than enough money to make a major competitive product but they don't seem to be able to get it out fast enough.
well "quickly" can mean quite a few different things. I definitely think that Intel will stop slacking and will get the 10nm process running by the end of the year.
I think in 2020 we will see a good Intel product. 2019 is the time for AMD to shine.
because Intel literally has their own fabs they are a lot more flexible in terms of changing processes and speeding things up. for AMD/Nvidia they basically rely on TSMC/GF if they miss their targets/goals or choose to focus on a different node/market(GF dropping 7nm plans, TSMC prioritizing mobile). there isn't much to be done.
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#5647471 Posted on: 03/07/2019 06:55 PM
32c64t TR 3950x? What can Intel do?
32c64t TR 3950x? What can Intel do?
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#5647514 Posted on: 03/07/2019 08:17 PM
Probably have another record year
32c64t TR 3950x? What can Intel do?
Probably have another record year
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Intels problem isn't actual processor R&D, that is probably done for two or three future generations at this point. Their main problem has been process technology, ie. 10nm. If that worked, Ice Lake would've been out years ago.
This is a topic AMD isn't dealing with at all, since they just outsource that to TSMC, so its not really anything comparable. Its also not really something you can make go much faster with more money, since this stuff just takes forever (and already costs billions).
Once 10nm is actually out and stable, I fully expect Intel to "strike" far faster. And with any luck their next process won't suffer from the same delays, with the lessons they learned from 10nm.
So perhaps they are finally over the "hump" soon when 10nm launches in mainstream, and quicker progress will resume, now that they actually have competition again.
On top of all that, Intel has gone on record to say that they'll be designing future CPU cores less dependent on the process architecture, so even if a future process is delayed again, hopefully the next core architecture won't be directly married to it, and they can release it on a different node if need be.
All that said, AMD is still "catching up" even with Zen2, the only thing AMD has going for them is throwing cores at people, which at least to me is getting old beyond a certain count in mainstream/enthusiast.