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AMD to launch 12nm Ryzen in February
AMD spoke with its partners and plans to launch in February 2018 an upgrade version of its Ryzen series processors built using a 12nm low-power (12LP) process at Globalfoundries.
This claim has been made based on sources at motherboard makers, states digitimes from who this news reaches us today. According to their info, AMD would release the CPUs codenamed Pinnacle 7 first, followed by mid-range Pinnacle 5 and entry-level Pinnacle 3 processors in March 2018, the sources disclosed.
In other news, sales seem to be picking up and AMD is expected to see its share of the desktop CPU market return to 30% in the first half of 2018. AMD would launch the low-power version of Pinnacle processors in April 2018 and the enterprise version Pinnacle Pro in May 2018.
The corresponding chipsets, the 400 series, will also become available in March 2018 with X470- or B450-based motherboards to be the first to hit the store shelves. The chipsets are still designed by ASMedia and its orders for the chipsets are expected to grow dramatically starting January 2018.
Thanks to stable chip orders for Microsoft's and Sony's game consoles, increased demand for graphics cards, growing sales for its Ryzen 7/5 processors, new Ryzen Pro product line for the enterprise sector and the top-end Ryzen Treadripper processors, AMD managed to achieve 19% sequential growth in second-quarter 2017 revenues and expects the amount to grow further by 23% in the third quarter. AMD said it does not comment on products that have not been announced.
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#5476231 Posted on: 09/27/2017 05:10 PM
I disagree, although as a whole the clockspeed race is primary over, we still need a higher clock speed for many applications. cores are great but are worthless if they don't clock very high. Fact is many programs still prefer and want high clock speeds, this might see a rapid change with everyone now getting more cores in their system but least this is the way it is right now. it's why the 7700k performs so well even with only 4 cores
These chips should hit 4.4ghz, unless they are going to hit the same 4.1ghz of the current Ryzen, which even with an IPC increase won't be that incredible sadly. Zen 2 i hear is meant to be aiming for 5GHz and this is where we would see massive gains. 6/8 cores running at 4.8-5GHz would perform amazingly. Sadly i feel this jump might be more of a sandy bridge to ivy bridge kind of leap, where the performance increase will be quite small... Still time will tell, if they are able to increase IPC and push clock speeds a little then the jump should be a fairly nice amount
I'd say it's a mix of needing higher clocks, but also these cores need to be efficient as well.
While I would love an AMD chip at 5ghz, if the IPC say at(And I know this wouldn't happen) 4ghz matches the IPC performance of a counter Intel chip at 5ghz, well I'll take it.
I disagree, although as a whole the clockspeed race is primary over, we still need a higher clock speed for many applications. cores are great but are worthless if they don't clock very high. Fact is many programs still prefer and want high clock speeds, this might see a rapid change with everyone now getting more cores in their system but least this is the way it is right now. it's why the 7700k performs so well even with only 4 cores
These chips should hit 4.4ghz, unless they are going to hit the same 4.1ghz of the current Ryzen, which even with an IPC increase won't be that incredible sadly. Zen 2 i hear is meant to be aiming for 5GHz and this is where we would see massive gains. 6/8 cores running at 4.8-5GHz would perform amazingly. Sadly i feel this jump might be more of a sandy bridge to ivy bridge kind of leap, where the performance increase will be quite small... Still time will tell, if they are able to increase IPC and push clock speeds a little then the jump should be a fairly nice amount
I'd say it's a mix of needing higher clocks, but also these cores need to be efficient as well.
While I would love an AMD chip at 5ghz, if the IPC say at(And I know this wouldn't happen) 4ghz matches the IPC performance of a counter Intel chip at 5ghz, well I'll take it.
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#5476235 Posted on: 09/27/2017 05:19 PM
I'd say it's a mix of needing higher clocks, but also these cores need to be efficient as well.
While I would love an AMD chip at 5ghz, if the IPC say at(And I know this wouldn't happen) 4ghz matches the IPC performance of a counter Intel chip at 5ghz, well I'll take it.
Yeah i agree a mix is far better than one or the other...
IPC wise AMD is always going to be behind intel, that being said ryzen caught up to around 5-10% so who knows maybe Zen2 matches are beats intel. that will be interesting to find out in 2019/2020... long time to wait for someone like me though
Ryzen refresh will be interesting however, i think the biggest issue Ryzen had was its max clock speed wall, if they can improve that then i would be very interested to see the results. just hopefully they do come February as i do not want to wait much longer for a new system
I'd say it's a mix of needing higher clocks, but also these cores need to be efficient as well.
While I would love an AMD chip at 5ghz, if the IPC say at(And I know this wouldn't happen) 4ghz matches the IPC performance of a counter Intel chip at 5ghz, well I'll take it.
Yeah i agree a mix is far better than one or the other...
IPC wise AMD is always going to be behind intel, that being said ryzen caught up to around 5-10% so who knows maybe Zen2 matches are beats intel. that will be interesting to find out in 2019/2020... long time to wait for someone like me though
Ryzen refresh will be interesting however, i think the biggest issue Ryzen had was its max clock speed wall, if they can improve that then i would be very interested to see the results. just hopefully they do come February as i do not want to wait much longer for a new system
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#5476240 Posted on: 09/27/2017 05:31 PM
Will the current motherboards serve?
Will the current motherboards serve?
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#5476241 Posted on: 09/27/2017 05:35 PM
AMD will have to keep the pressure, they can not afford to fall behind again. This will only be a win win for consumers. I hope this refresh in FEB 2018 is true and not just a delay after delay again. They better increase IPC and clock speed 15% min as well otherwise reviewers are going to destroy it.
AMD will have to keep the pressure, they can not afford to fall behind again. This will only be a win win for consumers. I hope this refresh in FEB 2018 is true and not just a delay after delay again. They better increase IPC and clock speed 15% min as well otherwise reviewers are going to destroy it.
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