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AMD to launch 12nm Ryzen in February
AMD spoke with its partners and plans to launch in February 2018 an upgrade version of its Ryzen series processors built using a 12nm low-power (12LP) process at Globalfoundries.
This claim has been made based on sources at motherboard makers, states digitimes from who this news reaches us today. According to their info, AMD would release the CPUs codenamed Pinnacle 7 first, followed by mid-range Pinnacle 5 and entry-level Pinnacle 3 processors in March 2018, the sources disclosed.
In other news, sales seem to be picking up and AMD is expected to see its share of the desktop CPU market return to 30% in the first half of 2018. AMD would launch the low-power version of Pinnacle processors in April 2018 and the enterprise version Pinnacle Pro in May 2018.
The corresponding chipsets, the 400 series, will also become available in March 2018 with X470- or B450-based motherboards to be the first to hit the store shelves. The chipsets are still designed by ASMedia and its orders for the chipsets are expected to grow dramatically starting January 2018.
Thanks to stable chip orders for Microsoft's and Sony's game consoles, increased demand for graphics cards, growing sales for its Ryzen 7/5 processors, new Ryzen Pro product line for the enterprise sector and the top-end Ryzen Treadripper processors, AMD managed to achieve 19% sequential growth in second-quarter 2017 revenues and expects the amount to grow further by 23% in the third quarter. AMD said it does not comment on products that have not been announced.
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#5476196 Posted on: 09/27/2017 03:54 PM
Imagine if they made a 10 core 12nm threadripper that could do 4.5ghz.
Add it higher memory speed compatibility and bam.
Imagine if they made a 10 core 12nm threadripper that could do 4.5ghz.
Add it higher memory speed compatibility and bam.
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#5476205 Posted on: 09/27/2017 04:21 PM
Imagine if they made a 10 core 12nm threadripper that could do 4.5ghz.
Add it higher memory speed compatibility and bam.
I'm not sure they will ever release a 10-core TR; it seems they can only be in multiples of 4 (due to the architecture design). That being said, a 4.5GHz 12 core ought to be sustainable on liquid cooling and would offer some pretty nice numbers for a good price.
Imagine if they made a 10 core 12nm threadripper that could do 4.5ghz.
Add it higher memory speed compatibility and bam.
I'm not sure they will ever release a 10-core TR; it seems they can only be in multiples of 4 (due to the architecture design). That being said, a 4.5GHz 12 core ought to be sustainable on liquid cooling and would offer some pretty nice numbers for a good price.
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#5476207 Posted on: 09/27/2017 04:22 PM
I would expect them to hit the wall at about 4.4 or 4.5GHZ, which is still very good.
I'm happy I didn't go all out on a new CPU, might get the Ryzen refresh....
I would expect them to hit the wall at about 4.4 or 4.5GHZ, which is still very good.
I'm happy I didn't go all out on a new CPU, might get the Ryzen refresh....
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#5476212 Posted on: 09/27/2017 04:34 PM
Clockspeed race is over 10 years ago. Boosting clocks high turns down efficiency and life expectancy. Also, applications where clock speed is important are dying each day, we are moving forward to core count (finally).
Current Ryzen chips are fabbed at 14nm, I doubt the difference will be of significance just with the improved fabbing process alone. I do hope they get better yields and more consistency so the cheaper SKUs can clock higher.
I disagree, although as a whole the clockspeed race is primary over, we still need a higher clock speed for many applications. cores are great but are worthless if they don't clock very high. Fact is many programs still prefer and want high clock speeds, this might see a rapid change with everyone now getting more cores in their system but least this is the way it is right now. it's why the 7700k performs so well even with only 4 cores
I would expect them to hit the wall at about 4.4 or 4.5GHZ, which is still very good.
I'm happy I didn't go all out on a new CPU, might get the Ryzen refresh....
These chips should hit 4.4ghz, unless they are going to hit the same 4.1ghz of the current Ryzen, which even with an IPC increase won't be that incredible sadly. Zen 2 i hear is meant to be aiming for 5GHz and this is where we would see massive gains. 6/8 cores running at 4.8-5GHz would perform amazingly. Sadly i feel this jump might be more of a sandy bridge to ivy bridge kind of leap, where the performance increase will be quite small... Still time will tell, if they are able to increase IPC and push clock speeds a little then the jump should be a fairly nice amount
Clockspeed race is over 10 years ago. Boosting clocks high turns down efficiency and life expectancy. Also, applications where clock speed is important are dying each day, we are moving forward to core count (finally).
Current Ryzen chips are fabbed at 14nm, I doubt the difference will be of significance just with the improved fabbing process alone. I do hope they get better yields and more consistency so the cheaper SKUs can clock higher.
I disagree, although as a whole the clockspeed race is primary over, we still need a higher clock speed for many applications. cores are great but are worthless if they don't clock very high. Fact is many programs still prefer and want high clock speeds, this might see a rapid change with everyone now getting more cores in their system but least this is the way it is right now. it's why the 7700k performs so well even with only 4 cores
I would expect them to hit the wall at about 4.4 or 4.5GHZ, which is still very good.
I'm happy I didn't go all out on a new CPU, might get the Ryzen refresh....
These chips should hit 4.4ghz, unless they are going to hit the same 4.1ghz of the current Ryzen, which even with an IPC increase won't be that incredible sadly. Zen 2 i hear is meant to be aiming for 5GHz and this is where we would see massive gains. 6/8 cores running at 4.8-5GHz would perform amazingly. Sadly i feel this jump might be more of a sandy bridge to ivy bridge kind of leap, where the performance increase will be quite small... Still time will tell, if they are able to increase IPC and push clock speeds a little then the jump should be a fairly nice amount
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Hmm I wasn't expecting this so soon. That's good news, though, if it remains to be true. I kind of wonder what they're going to be calling the new products, though. They've already been using X suffixes and unless it's more than just a die shrink (and a couple bug fixes - there have been some stability issues in the early Ryzen models), I don't feel it warrants bumping up to the 2000 series.
I'd like to see a Coffee Lake that can overclock to 8ghz, then we can call it a victory.
https://www.engadget.com/2007/01/24/pentium-4-overclocked-to-8ghz-lets-see-your-fancy-core-2-try-t/
So, why do you care about ghz?
To be fair, 4GHz is a little under-whelming for an overclock. If Ryzen was limited to 4.5Ghz I don't think people would be complaining much, because at least then it'd make the 7700K a much tougher sell. There are still a lot of tasks out there that depend more on Ghz than cores.
That being said, I hope AMD figured out a way to get higher clocks with this new node. It'll help them a lot.