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AMD Threadripper PRO 5000 and EPYC Milan-X Likely to become available in March
The Zen3 architecture underpins AMD's Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5000 series CPUs. CPUs with as many as 64 cores are available for high-end workstations.
This anticipated March 8th launch is just for OEMs and system integrators, it should be noted. Later this year, the DIY market is expected to begin. Processors in the Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5000 series for workstations are the first Threadripper devices based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture and include 8-channel DDR4 memory and up to 128 PCI-Express Gen4 lanes for workstation connection. They are designed for Socket sWRX8 motherboards and are not available in the retail channel. At the moment, it is unknown if these chips utilize the newer "Zen 3" CCD with 3D Vertical Cache or the more traditional "Zen 3" CCD with 32 MB planar L3 cache.
The EPYC "Milan-X" data-center CPUs from AMD will also soon be available for purchase. These are the Zen3 CPUs with 3D V-Cache added to them and provide 100 MB of total cache per CCD and 800 MB of total cache for the 64-core/128-thread variant.. Reports indicate Milan-X will be launched on March 21st. The same architecture with 3D V-Cache will be available to customers on March 14 or March 21 for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
Specifications of the new AMD Epyc (Milan) processors now can be placed into an overview, the TDP of the new chips appears to stretch to 280W for the fastest clocked flagship model with 64 cores and 128 threads, as can be decrypted using the diagram below, a slide posted by ExecutableFix on Twitter. Below you can see the nomenclature and table with alleged processors and specs.
| AMD 3rd Gen EPYC Milan | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SKU | Cores/Threads | Base Clock | Boost Clock | L3 Cache | TDP |
| EPYC 7763 | 64C/128T | 2.45 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 256MB | 280W |
| EPYC 7713(P) | 64C/128T | 2.0 GHz | 3.675 GHz | 256MB | 225W |
| EPYC 7643 | 48C/96T | 2.3 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 256MB | 225W |
| EPYC 75F3 | 32C/64T | 2.95 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 256MB | 280W |
| EPYC 7543(P) | 32C/64T | 2.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 256MB | 225W |
| EPYC 7513 | 32C/64T | 2.6 GHz | 3.65 GHz | 128MB | 200W |
| EPYC 74F3 | 24C/48T | 3.2 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 256MB | 240W |
| EPYC 7443(P) | 24C/48T | 2.85 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 128MB | 200W |
| EPYC 7413 | 24C/48T | 2.65 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 128MB | 180W |
| EPYC 73F3 | 16C/32T | 3.5 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 256MB | 240W |
| EPYC 7343 | 16C/32T | 3.2 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 128MB | 190W |
| EPYC 7313(P) | 16C/32T | 3.0 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 128MB | 155W |
| EPYC 72F3 | 8C/16T | 3.7 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 256MB | 180W |
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#5997197 Posted on: 03/01/2022 09:16 PM
I really dislike the Epyc naming scheme. So full of unnecessary irregularities, and searching for products by product number is difficult.
I really dislike the Epyc naming scheme. So full of unnecessary irregularities, and searching for products by product number is difficult.
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#5997204 Posted on: 03/01/2022 09:40 PM
They screwed us Threadrripper owners with both x399 AND TRX40.
Epyc fail
So it appears that TRX40 owners like myself are going to get screwed. Way to go, AMD. I'm sure the other HEDT adopters are really enthused as well.
They screwed us Threadrripper owners with both x399 AND TRX40.
Epyc fail
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#5997219 Posted on: 03/01/2022 11:03 PM
Just like 9900k, 10900k and 12900k uses 3 different sockets (11900k was ignored on purpose)
7980xe, 9980xe and 10980xe was just the same thing in a different package with a bit of factory overclocking, so only really one CPU for the same socket.
The super HEDT Intel 56 core abomination is also only a 1 generation socket too.
It sucks but I am not really surprised, the 3000 series 32 and 64 core Threadripper is still damned fast for us who plays Cinebench though.
So it appears that TRX40 owners like myself are going to get screwed. Way to go, AMD. I'm sure the other HEDT adopters are really enthused as well.
Just like 9900k, 10900k and 12900k uses 3 different sockets (11900k was ignored on purpose)
7980xe, 9980xe and 10980xe was just the same thing in a different package with a bit of factory overclocking, so only really one CPU for the same socket.
The super HEDT Intel 56 core abomination is also only a 1 generation socket too.
It sucks but I am not really surprised, the 3000 series 32 and 64 core Threadripper is still damned fast for us who plays Cinebench though.
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#5997234 Posted on: 03/02/2022 12:33 AM
So it appears that TRX40 owners like myself are going to get screwed. Way to go, AMD. I'm sure the other HEDT adopters are really enthused as well.
They screwed us Threadrripper owners with both x399 AND TRX40.
Epyc fail
Yep, X399 here, I bought in on the 2nd gen and that's where my upgrade options stopped.
...
7980xe, 9980xe and 10980xe was just the same thing in a different package with a bit of factory overclocking, so only really one CPU for the same socket.
...
I really think both AMD and Intel intend to treat an current/future HEDT systems as single generation. For AMD, they're trying to do more to segment between the PRO line and the less expensive TRX40. FWIW, I've worked with companies that bought in on a few Threadripper workstations but didn't want to spend on the Threadripper PRO. Giving the PRO line an upgrade path might do enough to incentivize companies to spend extra on the more expensive systems. Plus Vendors can lock in the PRO lineup chips just like EPYC (AMD PSB), so AMD and vendors would consider that a win in killing a lot of the 3rd party sales/reselling later. PSB is a positive for security (assuming you're a business) but it all sucks for home users and/or homelabbers
So it appears that TRX40 owners like myself are going to get screwed. Way to go, AMD. I'm sure the other HEDT adopters are really enthused as well.
They screwed us Threadrripper owners with both x399 AND TRX40.
Epyc fail
Yep, X399 here, I bought in on the 2nd gen and that's where my upgrade options stopped.
...
7980xe, 9980xe and 10980xe was just the same thing in a different package with a bit of factory overclocking, so only really one CPU for the same socket.
...
I really think both AMD and Intel intend to treat an current/future HEDT systems as single generation. For AMD, they're trying to do more to segment between the PRO line and the less expensive TRX40. FWIW, I've worked with companies that bought in on a few Threadripper workstations but didn't want to spend on the Threadripper PRO. Giving the PRO line an upgrade path might do enough to incentivize companies to spend extra on the more expensive systems. Plus Vendors can lock in the PRO lineup chips just like EPYC (AMD PSB), so AMD and vendors would consider that a win in killing a lot of the 3rd party sales/reselling later. PSB is a positive for security (assuming you're a business) but it all sucks for home users and/or homelabbers
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So it appears that TRX40 owners like myself are going to get screwed. Way to go, AMD. I'm sure the other HEDT adopters are really enthused as well.