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Guru3D.com » News » AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/01/2015 08:03 AM | source: | 72 comment(s)
AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

After yesterdays turmoil on a lacking DX12 feature for Nvidia AMD’s Robert Hallock shares that Fury X is also missing a number of DX12 features. 

The good man replied in a Reddit thread on the DX12 Async shader/compute feature that is missing from NVIDIA’s graphics cards, and then claimed that there is no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today. Which obviously was already known as AMD never claimed full DX12 support on all feature levels with their GCN architecture

“I think gamers are learning an important lesson: there’s no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today.” said Robert and continued:

“There have been many attempts to distract people from this truth through campaigns that deliberately conflate feature levels, individual untiered features and the definition of “support.” This has been confusing, and caused so much unnecessary heartache and rumor-mongering.

Here is the unvarnished truth: Every graphics architecture has unique features, and no one architecture has them all. Some of those unique features are more powerful than others.

Yes, we’re extremely pleased that people are finally beginning to see the game of chess we’ve been playing with the interrelationship of GCN, Mantle, DX12, Vulkan and LiquidVR.”

When somebody  asked what are the aspects of DX12 that the FuryX is missing, Hallock replied and listed them.

“Raster Ordered Views and Conservative Raster. Thankfully, the techniques that these enable (like global illumination) can already be done in other ways at high framerates (see: DiRT Showdown).”

So it is simple, currently no graphics card with full 100% DirectX 12 support, that means that some games are to favor AMD and others Nvidia.


I want to add thing here, yesterday Hallock was all over this downplaying Nvidia and evangelizing how good their GPUs are, and now he is taking a step back with these answers on Reddit.

It's all marketing mud-fighting and attacking each other these days in-between Nvidia and AMD. Fun fact: on the AMD GPU Tech day for Fury, I myself literally confronted and asked about the DX12 supported feature levels to Hallock, and in this case Hallock himself absolutely refused to give a valid answer at the time as he very well knew that AMD would not fully support DX12 either.



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mitzi76
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#5151561 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:37 AM
What did I say in the other thread?

Just ignore the junk from both sides. Sad they have to resort to petty crap. Or it's just trolls making **** up..and posting benchmarks and tables.

We seen it before. Hardly original.

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#5151562 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:39 AM
wrong thread

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#5151568 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:55 AM
Did someone think that current gpus would be fully dx12 capable ? I thought it is pretty clear that there are features missing here and there considering the fact that all of these gpus were pretty much made way before dx12 was done.

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#5151572 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:58 AM
This all pretty pathetic and just proves my point in regards to pc gamers being so hypocritical. Then theres the absolutely childish behaviour and utter delusion from a large portion of amd loyalist.

The competition has been leading they way for how long now and without question, still is, constantly leaving amd to play catch up.

Just one meaningless amd sponsored benchmark, the competitions lack of support for a feature that has been and still is of no real use on an api that is still meaningless until we have actual games, and you smell blood and this is how you act.

****ing disgraceful.

Have you read what you just said in context?

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#5151575 Posted on: 09/01/2015 11:02 AM
Have you read what you just said in context?


Not quite sure what you mean think he has a point to be honest....

This whole dx12 things smacks of unsubstantiated claims and trolling then people jumping on the bandwagon thinking they can try and give credibility to what is most likely made up garbage.

There may be some issues but until dx12 is launched officially I could claim anything...

Wait are they trying to influence buying habits or its just petty "your gpu cant do this so there...my games are gonna get 5fps improvement over yrs".

or "my hair/dust particles are gonna look amazing".

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