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Guru3D.com » News » AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/01/2015 09:03 AM | source: | 72 comment(s)
AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

After yesterdays turmoil on a lacking DX12 feature for Nvidia AMD’s Robert Hallock shares that Fury X is also missing a number of DX12 features. 

The good man replied in a Reddit thread on the DX12 Async shader/compute feature that is missing from NVIDIA’s graphics cards, and then claimed that there is no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today. Which obviously was already known as AMD never claimed full DX12 support on all feature levels with their GCN architecture

“I think gamers are learning an important lesson: there’s no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today.” said Robert and continued:

“There have been many attempts to distract people from this truth through campaigns that deliberately conflate feature levels, individual untiered features and the definition of “support.” This has been confusing, and caused so much unnecessary heartache and rumor-mongering.

Here is the unvarnished truth: Every graphics architecture has unique features, and no one architecture has them all. Some of those unique features are more powerful than others.

Yes, we’re extremely pleased that people are finally beginning to see the game of chess we’ve been playing with the interrelationship of GCN, Mantle, DX12, Vulkan and LiquidVR.”

When somebody  asked what are the aspects of DX12 that the FuryX is missing, Hallock replied and listed them.

“Raster Ordered Views and Conservative Raster. Thankfully, the techniques that these enable (like global illumination) can already be done in other ways at high framerates (see: DiRT Showdown).”

So it is simple, currently no graphics card with full 100% DirectX 12 support, that means that some games are to favor AMD and others Nvidia.


I want to add thing here, yesterday Hallock was all over this downplaying Nvidia and evangelizing how good their GPUs are, and now he is taking a step back with these answers on Reddit.

It's all marketing mud-fighting and attacking each other these days in-between Nvidia and AMD. Fun fact: on the AMD GPU Tech day for Fury, I myself literally confronted and asked about the DX12 supported feature levels to Hallock, and in this case Hallock himself absolutely refused to give a valid answer at the time as he very well knew that AMD would not fully support DX12 either.



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rl66
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#5151540 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:56 AM
so how well does the fury overclock "overclockers Dream"


you are naughty :)

airfathaaaaa
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#5151542 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:57 AM
Infairness to AMD they showed the Fury as DX12 tier 2 (12_0) support so clearly it's not 100% DX12 compliant since it needs to be tier 3 (12_1) to be 100% compliant, i was kinda surprised that they didn't have it as tier 3 (12_1) but i guess they didn't want it to backfire if x doesn't work or perform like it should.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review,8.html

Which you can see here. So they have not advertised it as 100% compliant unlike their competitor.

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/images/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-directx-12-advanced-api-support.png
i tought every cgn card has resource binding technology on them and thus they are fully tier 3 cards


alanm
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#5151546 Posted on: 09/01/2015 11:10 AM
^ That table was discredited. Originally from wikipedia but some idiot kept editing the table to indicate pascal has no async shader. Was eventually deleted from wiki.

cyberfredxxx
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#5151549 Posted on: 09/01/2015 11:14 AM
it s the same with every new version of directx...
both actual card from AMD or Nvidia haven't full support of the new directx :/
We must wait the new generation to have full support.

airfathaaaaa
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#5151552 Posted on: 09/01/2015 11:23 AM
^ That table was discredited. Originally from wikipedia but some idiot kept editing the table to indicate pascal has no async shader. Was eventually deleted from wiki.

that much i know but given what we know now about maxwell 2.0 that table is pretty damn spot on

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