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Guru3D.com » News » AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/01/2015 09:03 AM | source: | 72 comment(s)
AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

After yesterdays turmoil on a lacking DX12 feature for Nvidia AMD’s Robert Hallock shares that Fury X is also missing a number of DX12 features. 

The good man replied in a Reddit thread on the DX12 Async shader/compute feature that is missing from NVIDIA’s graphics cards, and then claimed that there is no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today. Which obviously was already known as AMD never claimed full DX12 support on all feature levels with their GCN architecture

“I think gamers are learning an important lesson: there’s no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today.” said Robert and continued:

“There have been many attempts to distract people from this truth through campaigns that deliberately conflate feature levels, individual untiered features and the definition of “support.” This has been confusing, and caused so much unnecessary heartache and rumor-mongering.

Here is the unvarnished truth: Every graphics architecture has unique features, and no one architecture has them all. Some of those unique features are more powerful than others.

Yes, we’re extremely pleased that people are finally beginning to see the game of chess we’ve been playing with the interrelationship of GCN, Mantle, DX12, Vulkan and LiquidVR.”

When somebody  asked what are the aspects of DX12 that the FuryX is missing, Hallock replied and listed them.

“Raster Ordered Views and Conservative Raster. Thankfully, the techniques that these enable (like global illumination) can already be done in other ways at high framerates (see: DiRT Showdown).”

So it is simple, currently no graphics card with full 100% DirectX 12 support, that means that some games are to favor AMD and others Nvidia.


I want to add thing here, yesterday Hallock was all over this downplaying Nvidia and evangelizing how good their GPUs are, and now he is taking a step back with these answers on Reddit.

It's all marketing mud-fighting and attacking each other these days in-between Nvidia and AMD. Fun fact: on the AMD GPU Tech day for Fury, I myself literally confronted and asked about the DX12 supported feature levels to Hallock, and in this case Hallock himself absolutely refused to give a valid answer at the time as he very well knew that AMD would not fully support DX12 either.



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rl66
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#5151512 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:24 AM
When I bought my 980 a few months ago, I was said by the retailer that my card had full directx 12 support. Surprise! :D


it has real DX12 support but not full (you know the new crap .0 .1 .2 introduced by M$. lol)

sajibjoarder
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#5151528 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:46 AM
at least amd is honest.. they dont cheat their customers

Turanis
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#5151536 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:50 AM
Thanks for sharing this. :)

From Hilbert article:
"It's all marketing mud-fighting and attacking each other these days in-between Nvidia and AMD. Fun fact: on the AMD GPU Tech day for Fury, I myself literally confronted and asked about the DX12 supported feature levels to Hallock, and in this case Hallock himself absolutely refused to give a valid answer at the time as he very well knew that AMD would not fully support DX12 either."

Ofc its a marketing thing/war.
nvidia from I read these years its all about lies&lies all over.Now Amd tell the truth about Mantle development and about DX12 support in their cards.
DX12 its like a baby,you know,still learn how to walk ,how to work (at this point).

Barry J
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#5151537 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:54 AM
at least amd is honest.. they dont cheat their customers



so how well does the fury overclock "overclockers Dream"

I waited to buy a Fury X or a 980ti i would say AMD where dishonest about Overclocking ability

rl66
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#5151538 Posted on: 09/01/2015 10:55 AM
at least amd is honest.. they dont cheat their customers


after the "Honest" word you forget "this time", i remember the argument that make me buy a HD7850... the worse bought i have done (btw still have it as no one want it... only 3 week of use).

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