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Guru3D.com » News » AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/01/2015 09:03 AM | source: | 72 comment(s)
AMD: There is no such thing as full support for DX12 today

After yesterdays turmoil on a lacking DX12 feature for Nvidia AMD’s Robert Hallock shares that Fury X is also missing a number of DX12 features. 

The good man replied in a Reddit thread on the DX12 Async shader/compute feature that is missing from NVIDIA’s graphics cards, and then claimed that there is no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today. Which obviously was already known as AMD never claimed full DX12 support on all feature levels with their GCN architecture

“I think gamers are learning an important lesson: there’s no such thing as “full support” for DX12 on the market today.” said Robert and continued:

“There have been many attempts to distract people from this truth through campaigns that deliberately conflate feature levels, individual untiered features and the definition of “support.” This has been confusing, and caused so much unnecessary heartache and rumor-mongering.

Here is the unvarnished truth: Every graphics architecture has unique features, and no one architecture has them all. Some of those unique features are more powerful than others.

Yes, we’re extremely pleased that people are finally beginning to see the game of chess we’ve been playing with the interrelationship of GCN, Mantle, DX12, Vulkan and LiquidVR.”

When somebody  asked what are the aspects of DX12 that the FuryX is missing, Hallock replied and listed them.

“Raster Ordered Views and Conservative Raster. Thankfully, the techniques that these enable (like global illumination) can already be done in other ways at high framerates (see: DiRT Showdown).”

So it is simple, currently no graphics card with full 100% DirectX 12 support, that means that some games are to favor AMD and others Nvidia.


I want to add thing here, yesterday Hallock was all over this downplaying Nvidia and evangelizing how good their GPUs are, and now he is taking a step back with these answers on Reddit.

It's all marketing mud-fighting and attacking each other these days in-between Nvidia and AMD. Fun fact: on the AMD GPU Tech day for Fury, I myself literally confronted and asked about the DX12 supported feature levels to Hallock, and in this case Hallock himself absolutely refused to give a valid answer at the time as he very well knew that AMD would not fully support DX12 either.



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Fender178
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#5152506 Posted on: 09/02/2015 06:54 PM
To me this should not be a problem because DX12 is still in its early stages it will take a while for any card to have full features of it.

Redemption80
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#5152558 Posted on: 09/02/2015 08:19 PM
Exactly, i don't think there are any games out anytime soon that use all the DX12 features.

Denial, i didn't know the 980ti and FuryX were pretty much tied when it came to AOS, never saw the two compared in any of the reviews, just found them there and there really is very little difference.
If that is with Async Compute enabled on the FuryX and disabled on the 980ti, that make me curious how much of difference it is actually making.
Would like to see a comparison on AMD hardware with it on and off to see how much real world performance is gained.

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