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AMD Socket AM4 Coming Up Inevitably usable for Zen
Some new documents have surfaced on the web, the slides contain information about the AMD Socket AM4 and explain the transition towards Zen based processors (which are expected 2nd half next year). AM4 will be the new desktop socket for AMD. Information indicates that in March (say CeBIT timeframe) we'll see motherboards based on the new socket. AM4 will transition from Excavator architecture towards Zen architecture.
A lot is riding on Zen alright. AM4 will be the slot to use for both APUs and many multi-core processors. Bristol Ridge will likely be the first processor to be used, the followup of the Carrizo APU. The Socket AM4 Desktop platform will support DDR4 RAM memory and FP4 would be the soldered socket for mobile platforms (supporting both DDR3 and DDR4). Bristol Ridge will have up to four CPU cores with TDP ranges from 45W to 65W and thus with support for DDR4 memory (2400 MHz). Later in 2016 AMD will launch their Zen architecture multi-core CPUs, which feature the company's next-gen, performance-focused CPU cores.
AMD, Zen's main focus will be on increasing per-core performance rather than core count or multi-threading performance. Zen architecture will be built on a more efficient 14 nanometer process, rather than the 32 nm and 28 nm processes of previous AMD FX CPUs and AMD APUs. The "Summit Ridge" Zen family will also feature a unified AM4 socket with its GPU-equipped "Raven Ridge" APU counterparts, and feature DDR4 support and a 95W TDP. Zen does not support DDR3, only 7th generation AMD APUs (also fitting the AMD AM4 unified socket) support DDR3 and DDR4.
Anyway, have a peek at the slides below.
Sources: Benchlife.info, Planet 3DNow
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#5206638 Posted on: 12/17/2015 08:39 AM
Maybe you're right about the Pentium d but one of the things I read was this.
The D didn't last that long before it was supplanted by the Core 2 Duo which kicked everyone's ass. I do remember reading though that the D's were 2 chips on a board while the AMD X2's were 2 cores in a single chip which was considered better. However, once the Core 2's hit the scene in 2006 (only a year after the first D's), AMD has never caught up in terms of raw performance. If they had an advantage at first, it was fleeting.
Maybe you did have to be there . Admittedly, I have never had any dual core CPU. I went from an Athlon64 3500+ in my desktop (fantastic chip at the time) and a Turion64 ML-34 in my first laptop to an A8-3500M quad core APU in my second laptop which was my primary machine for everything including gaming for 3 years before getting this FX 6300 desktop. I always buy what seems to be the best bang for the buck choice and not necessarily the fastest thing available.
That's talking about overclocking and not talking about what that CPU overclocked vs AMDs best overclock would be.
Maybe you're right about the Pentium d but one of the things I read was this.
The D didn't last that long before it was supplanted by the Core 2 Duo which kicked everyone's ass. I do remember reading though that the D's were 2 chips on a board while the AMD X2's were 2 cores in a single chip which was considered better. However, once the Core 2's hit the scene in 2006 (only a year after the first D's), AMD has never caught up in terms of raw performance. If they had an advantage at first, it was fleeting.
Maybe you did have to be there . Admittedly, I have never had any dual core CPU. I went from an Athlon64 3500+ in my desktop (fantastic chip at the time) and a Turion64 ML-34 in my first laptop to an A8-3500M quad core APU in my second laptop which was my primary machine for everything including gaming for 3 years before getting this FX 6300 desktop. I always buy what seems to be the best bang for the buck choice and not necessarily the fastest thing available.
That's talking about overclocking and not talking about what that CPU overclocked vs AMDs best overclock would be.
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#5206641 Posted on: 12/17/2015 08:48 AM
Maybe you're right about the Pentium d but one of the things I read was this.
The D didn't last that long before it was supplanted by the Core 2 Duo which kicked everyone's ass. I do remember reading though that the D's were 2 chips on a board while the AMD X2's were 2 cores in a single chip which was considered better. However, once the Core 2's hit the scene in 2006 (only a year after the first D's), AMD has never caught up in terms of raw performance. If they had an advantage at first, it was fleeting.
Maybe you did have to be there . Admittedly, I have never had any dual core CPU. I went from an Athlon64 3500+ in my desktop (fantastic chip at the time) and a Turion64 ML-34 in my first laptop to an A8-3500M quad core APU in my second laptop which was my primary machine for everything including gaming for 3 years before getting this FX 6300 desktop. I always buy what seems to be the best bang for the buck choice and not necessarily the fastest thing available.
That quote is so sweet, so 2006, water cooling, OC from 2.67GHz to something over 4GHz and power consumption not blown out of proportion.
(Basically being better than newer generation in every aspect, just water cooling needed?)
I can see how popular that was... Getting last bark on old technology and investing into that day LCS instead of saving $300~400 on LCS and getting new platform.
Maybe you're right about the Pentium d but one of the things I read was this.
The D didn't last that long before it was supplanted by the Core 2 Duo which kicked everyone's ass. I do remember reading though that the D's were 2 chips on a board while the AMD X2's were 2 cores in a single chip which was considered better. However, once the Core 2's hit the scene in 2006 (only a year after the first D's), AMD has never caught up in terms of raw performance. If they had an advantage at first, it was fleeting.
Maybe you did have to be there . Admittedly, I have never had any dual core CPU. I went from an Athlon64 3500+ in my desktop (fantastic chip at the time) and a Turion64 ML-34 in my first laptop to an A8-3500M quad core APU in my second laptop which was my primary machine for everything including gaming for 3 years before getting this FX 6300 desktop. I always buy what seems to be the best bang for the buck choice and not necessarily the fastest thing available.
That quote is so sweet, so 2006, water cooling, OC from 2.67GHz to something over 4GHz and power consumption not blown out of proportion.
(Basically being better than newer generation in every aspect, just water cooling needed?)
I can see how popular that was... Getting last bark on old technology and investing into that day LCS instead of saving $300~400 on LCS and getting new platform.
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Maybe you're right about the Pentium d but one of the things I read was this.
The D didn't last that long before it was supplanted by the Core 2 Duo which kicked everyone's ass. I do remember reading though that the D's were 2 chips on a board while the AMD X2's were 2 cores in a single chip which was considered better. However, once the Core 2's hit the scene in 2006 (only a year after the first D's), AMD has never caught up in terms of raw performance. If they had an advantage at first, it was fleeting.
Maybe you did have to be there . Admittedly, I have never had any dual core CPU. I went from an Athlon64 3500+ in my desktop (fantastic chip at the time) and a Turion64 ML-34 in my first laptop to an A8-3500M quad core APU in my second laptop which was my primary machine for everything including gaming for 3 years before getting this FX 6300 desktop. I always buy what seems to be the best bang for the buck choice and not necessarily the fastest thing available.