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AMD Socket AM4 Coming Up Inevitably usable for Zen
Some new documents have surfaced on the web, the slides contain information about the AMD Socket AM4 and explain the transition towards Zen based processors (which are expected 2nd half next year). AM4 will be the new desktop socket for AMD. Information indicates that in March (say CeBIT timeframe) we'll see motherboards based on the new socket. AM4 will transition from Excavator architecture towards Zen architecture.
A lot is riding on Zen alright. AM4 will be the slot to use for both APUs and many multi-core processors. Bristol Ridge will likely be the first processor to be used, the followup of the Carrizo APU. The Socket AM4 Desktop platform will support DDR4 RAM memory and FP4 would be the soldered socket for mobile platforms (supporting both DDR3 and DDR4). Bristol Ridge will have up to four CPU cores with TDP ranges from 45W to 65W and thus with support for DDR4 memory (2400 MHz). Later in 2016 AMD will launch their Zen architecture multi-core CPUs, which feature the company's next-gen, performance-focused CPU cores.
AMD, Zen's main focus will be on increasing per-core performance rather than core count or multi-threading performance. Zen architecture will be built on a more efficient 14 nanometer process, rather than the 32 nm and 28 nm processes of previous AMD FX CPUs and AMD APUs. The "Summit Ridge" Zen family will also feature a unified AM4 socket with its GPU-equipped "Raven Ridge" APU counterparts, and feature DDR4 support and a 95W TDP. Zen does not support DDR3, only 7th generation AMD APUs (also fitting the AMD AM4 unified socket) support DDR3 and DDR4.
Anyway, have a peek at the slides below.
Sources: Benchlife.info, Planet 3DNow
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#5204577 Posted on: 12/12/2015 03:06 AM
I also had the intel on a board that went into a slot. It was a Pentium III and was the only CPU I have ever switched out on the same motherboard. The machine came with a 350mhz PIII which I upgraded to an 850 about a year or so later. It was the first, and last, Intel based machine I have owned. It got replaced after 6 years of use by an Athlon64 3500+ system. I totally agree with the bang for the buck statement.
It's a little disappointing that Zen will need a new socket but as has been said, not really surprising. I will have one, or it's successor, some day but not right away. I really hope it revives AMD in the eyes of the consumer. Even the most dedicated Intel users should hope for that. Competition drives innovation.
One of the hidden costs going Intel is not just that the cpu's are more expensive, but also the motherboards. Intel changes sockets like I change socks... 
(Speaking as someone who actually bought a Pentium on a card that went into a slot--instead of a socket...!) AMD's AM3+ has been amazingly resilient, and companies like MSI are still introducing new motherboards based on it. .
(Speaking as someone who actually bought a Pentium on a card that went into a slot--instead of a socket...!) AMD's AM3+ has been amazingly resilient, and companies like MSI are still introducing new motherboards based on it. .I also had the intel on a board that went into a slot. It was a Pentium III and was the only CPU I have ever switched out on the same motherboard. The machine came with a 350mhz PIII which I upgraded to an 850 about a year or so later. It was the first, and last, Intel based machine I have owned. It got replaced after 6 years of use by an Athlon64 3500+ system. I totally agree with the bang for the buck statement.
It's a little disappointing that Zen will need a new socket but as has been said, not really surprising. I will have one, or it's successor, some day but not right away. I really hope it revives AMD in the eyes of the consumer. Even the most dedicated Intel users should hope for that. Competition drives innovation.
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#5205589 Posted on: 12/15/2015 03:24 AM
Gents, they are focusing on core performance instead of core count. With that being said we only can expect better core performance. Maybe AMD has changed their focus and are trying to catch up with Intel and compete in a core to core war. Competition=Innovation= better prices. Is a win-win
Gents, they are focusing on core performance instead of core count. With that being said we only can expect better core performance. Maybe AMD has changed their focus and are trying to catch up with Intel and compete in a core to core war. Competition=Innovation= better prices. Is a win-win
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#5205689 Posted on: 12/15/2015 11:39 AM
AMD suffered when GF 20 nm flopped.
AMD suffered when GF 20 nm flopped.
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#5206252 Posted on: 12/16/2015 12:22 PM
Yeah, AMD somehow dropped the ball when multi core CPU's came along. They were king of the hill in single core days with the Athlon 64. Then for some reason, the Intel dual cores killed the AMD ones and they still have never caught back up even though they are still good "bang for the buck" choices.
Hopefully, ZEN will once again level the playing field. Another Bulldozer like hype and subsequent disappointment would be disastrous. They really need to get this one right.
Yeah, AMD somehow dropped the ball when multi core CPU's came along. They were king of the hill in single core days with the Athlon 64. Then for some reason, the Intel dual cores killed the AMD ones and they still have never caught back up even though they are still good "bang for the buck" choices.
Hopefully, ZEN will once again level the playing field. Another Bulldozer like hype and subsequent disappointment would be disastrous. They really need to get this one right.
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I am hoping that Zen will be CPU that turns them around. They need a 4,6, and an 8 core CPU with good single threaded performance and good GHZ per core performance. AMD hasn't had a CPU to answer Intel since the AMD Athlon 64 and I am really hoping that Zen is the one to finally answer Intel's long call.
Also It is about time that they went away from the aging AM3 socket. Also I said this before that AMD needs to based their Zen CPUs off of the Athlon 64 just like Intel based all of the core based CPUs off of the Pentium3.