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AMD seems to be developing Nintendo NX APU
After Microsoft and Sony, AMD found a new client for custom APUs. AMD develops these custom APUs for Sony's PS4 en Microsoft's Xbox One already.
In this case it'll be a "semi-custom" chip for a game console, very likely this will be the NX from Nintendo. AMD started last quarter with the development of the semi-custom APU which is developed based on very specific wishes from the client. AMD CEO Lisa Su stated that she expects a solid year for the revenue created from game-console chips, which gives AMD an opportunity to grow in the 2nd half of the year. So, chances are high this all refers to the NX from Nintendo, a x86-apu based game console. The combination of a processor and GPU delivers much advantages for Nintendo.
AMD classifies the APU developed as “semi-custom.” Accelerated processing units (APU) chips combine a central processing unit (CPU) and graphics processing unit (GPU) on a single chip. Nintendo has already made the jump from IBM’s PowerPC to x86-based (AMD and Intel) architecture. That means that games written for Nintendo’s current Wii U console will be x86 compatible. It would make sense for Nintendo to continue its relationship with AMD and continue to use x86 architecture in its next-generation design, which Nintendo announced would be called the NX.
Nintendo’s upcoming codenamed NX video game console, is expected to launch in 2016.
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#5123971 Posted on: 07/17/2015 01:53 PM
Launch 2016, so maybe we'll see 14nm + HBM there.
That would make very power efficient device. Those 4 HBM chips which are on Fury X eat virtually nothing on 500MHz. (They do not downclock when there is no load, at least not externally.)
May be nice handheld thingy.
Launch 2016, so maybe we'll see 14nm + HBM there.
That would make very power efficient device. Those 4 HBM chips which are on Fury X eat virtually nothing on 500MHz. (They do not downclock when there is no load, at least not externally.)
May be nice handheld thingy.
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#5123978 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:06 PM
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
I wish Nintendo would return to form, something with some actual power behind it. Like I get that their games are more focused on younger generation and stuff, but the console should at least be able to play current AAA titles. They can't ride the Wii/Wii U gimmick forever.
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
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#5123990 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:26 PM
It's a shame the WII U hasn't sold well, as it offers something totally different from the competition. If you only play on PC then it is a great console to own, as most aren't released on PC so you get to play something different
It's a shame the WII U hasn't sold well, as it offers something totally different from the competition. If you only play on PC then it is a great console to own, as most aren't released on PC so you get to play something different
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#5123992 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:32 PM
I want one badly, but no go 1-2 year bank loan, if it was 1 year i would not be able to buy games, 2 year would mean i would buy a game occasionally but no cinema, no fast food, pretty much no to everything else
It's a shame the WII U hasn't sold well, as it offers something totally different from the competition. If you only play on PC then it is a great console to own, as most aren't released on PC so you get to play something different
I want one badly, but no go 1-2 year bank loan, if it was 1 year i would not be able to buy games, 2 year would mean i would buy a game occasionally but no cinema, no fast food, pretty much no to everything else
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#5123993 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:34 PM
I hope the next console doesn't have that weird PAL & NTSC region lock non-sense.
I hope the next console doesn't have that weird PAL & NTSC region lock non-sense.
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#5123996 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:38 PM
I believe that's what this system is supposed to be, powerful. Could be wrong.
I wish Nintendo would return to form, something with some actual power behind it. Like I get that their games are more focused on younger generation and stuff, but the console should at least be able to play current AAA titles. They can't ride the Wii/Wii U gimmick forever.
I believe that's what this system is supposed to be, powerful. Could be wrong.
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#5123997 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:40 PM
nope you are wrong, it was never about the graphics, its always about good gameplay, nice graphics (smooth, colorfull, not texturised to impossible levels), funky and addictive music
I believe that's what this system is supposed to be, powerful. Could be wrong.
nope you are wrong, it was never about the graphics, its always about good gameplay, nice graphics (smooth, colorfull, not texturised to impossible levels), funky and addictive music
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#5123998 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:42 PM
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
At those prices, why not just order stuff from the US?
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
At those prices, why not just order stuff from the US?
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#5123999 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:44 PM
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
Are you talking in USD, or Polish Zloty? Because if you're talking about Polish Zloty, all of those prices are within normal, some barely higher then normal.
Your monthly minimum wage seems to be pretty low, and monthly minimum wages always confuse me, so maybe that's what you're talking about. But the value of your currency to the value of those games seem to be on par
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
Are you talking in USD, or Polish Zloty? Because if you're talking about Polish Zloty, all of those prices are within normal, some barely higher then normal.
Your monthly minimum wage seems to be pretty low, and monthly minimum wages always confuse me, so maybe that's what you're talking about. But the value of your currency to the value of those games seem to be on par
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#5124008 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:54 PM
That is how it looks like in my mind with the world wage:
That is how it looks like in my mind with the world wage:
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#5124009 Posted on: 07/17/2015 02:55 PM
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
With prices like that I'm surprised there isn't a much larger black/gray market for products like this.
edit\
This says here that it costs $629 USD for a Playstation 4 in Poland.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-18/pricey-ps4-the-most-expensive-countries-to-buy-a-playstation-4.html
Then I tried to find info on Nintendo in the Polish marketplace and discovered this article...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/11/feature_why_nintendo_isnt_popular_in_poland
I'm not sure how accurate that was, but it was definitely informative.
Or they could also go for a very cheap console that ppl from other than rich countries could actually afford ?
ill show u what i mean, what i have to spend on a console:
it costs me 1118$ for Nintendo Wii U Premium Black The Legend of Zeldalda
or
1699$ for Sony Playstation 4 500GB + Grand Theft Auto V
or just sell my GPU for 500$ and buy a new one for 720$ and spend the rest of the cash on games...
that is the world for ppl wanting to play on a console - just too expensive and games my god: PS4 AAA titles goes for 329$ and PC like 150$
we do not complain much but man, so many without internet
would u like an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked ? 2389$
in this world - there would be a million dollar line in the front of a 1 shop if wii u was for 300$ and games for 10-30
With prices like that I'm surprised there isn't a much larger black/gray market for products like this.
edit\
This says here that it costs $629 USD for a Playstation 4 in Poland.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-18/pricey-ps4-the-most-expensive-countries-to-buy-a-playstation-4.html
Then I tried to find info on Nintendo in the Polish marketplace and discovered this article...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/11/feature_why_nintendo_isnt_popular_in_poland
I'm not sure how accurate that was, but it was definitely informative.
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#5124012 Posted on: 07/17/2015 03:04 PM
With prices like that I'm surprised there isn't a much larger black/gray market for products like this.
edit\
This says here that it costs $629 USD for a Playstation 4 in Poland.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-18/pricey-ps4-the-most-expensive-countries-to-buy-a-playstation-4.html
Then I tried to find info on Nintendo in the Polish marketplace and discovered this article...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/11/feature_why_nintendo_isnt_popular_in_poland
I'm not sure how accurate that was, but it was definitely informative.
no one is capable of doing fake and fast GPU - it just would not be any good and when there is no black market, there's a grey area of brand new graphic cards that make some tiny little artefacts like once per week
With prices like that I'm surprised there isn't a much larger black/gray market for products like this.
edit\
This says here that it costs $629 USD for a Playstation 4 in Poland.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-18/pricey-ps4-the-most-expensive-countries-to-buy-a-playstation-4.html
Then I tried to find info on Nintendo in the Polish marketplace and discovered this article...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/11/feature_why_nintendo_isnt_popular_in_poland
I'm not sure how accurate that was, but it was definitely informative.
no one is capable of doing fake and fast GPU - it just would not be any good and when there is no black market, there's a grey area of brand new graphic cards that make some tiny little artefacts like once per week
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#5124013 Posted on: 07/17/2015 03:06 PM
Nope they need to make this one powerful, or atleast on par with PS4. The reason being is they need 3rd party titles to survive, and they will only get that if it's similar to other consoles. The Wii U has done badly because of those reasons, people don't want it as they see it as weak (even though 1st party games are awesome on it) and 3rd party developers won't release games on it as not enough people own the console.
So making it powerful will mean more people buy it, which will also mean 3rd party developers will make games for it.
nope you are wrong, it was never about the graphics, its always about good gameplay, nice graphics (smooth, colorfull, not texturised to impossible levels), funky and addictive music
Nope they need to make this one powerful, or atleast on par with PS4. The reason being is they need 3rd party titles to survive, and they will only get that if it's similar to other consoles. The Wii U has done badly because of those reasons, people don't want it as they see it as weak (even though 1st party games are awesome on it) and 3rd party developers won't release games on it as not enough people own the console.
So making it powerful will mean more people buy it, which will also mean 3rd party developers will make games for it.
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#5124017 Posted on: 07/17/2015 03:13 PM
Nope they need to make this one powerful, or atleast on par with PS4. The reason being is they need 3rd party titles to survive, and they will only get that if it's similar to other consoles. The Wii U has done badly because of those reasons, people don't want it as they see it as weak (even though 1st party games are awesome on it) and 3rd party developers won't release games on it as not enough people own the console.
So making it powerful will mean more people buy it, which will also mean 3rd party developers will make games for it.
who will buy it ? ppl already have consoles, fight for PS4 price/performance was lost even with Microsofts power at the back, they would need like 4k now which is out of the boundaries even with your dollars in the pocket, almost nobody will buy a 1500$ wii u2 just like almost nobody buys Wii U in my country for over 1k, just too expensive for toy
Sony and Microsoft knows that very well - they know how good these are selling in developing countries - they just dont. Its like i know someone who knows someone that owns a PS4.
I maybe translate for u how good the PS4 is doing:
***346;wietne wyniki sprzeda***380;y PS4 w Polsce: 100 tys. sztuk coraz bli***380;ej
Great selling of PS4 in Poland: 100k coming...
and that's it 100k for 38.530.000 ppl
that number should be even less with nintendo - just doesn't exist, because in Poland we want to play AAA titles, some of those ppl have a gaming PC or a PS4 - not together its very rare
Nope they need to make this one powerful, or atleast on par with PS4. The reason being is they need 3rd party titles to survive, and they will only get that if it's similar to other consoles. The Wii U has done badly because of those reasons, people don't want it as they see it as weak (even though 1st party games are awesome on it) and 3rd party developers won't release games on it as not enough people own the console.
So making it powerful will mean more people buy it, which will also mean 3rd party developers will make games for it.
who will buy it ? ppl already have consoles, fight for PS4 price/performance was lost even with Microsofts power at the back, they would need like 4k now which is out of the boundaries even with your dollars in the pocket, almost nobody will buy a 1500$ wii u2 just like almost nobody buys Wii U in my country for over 1k, just too expensive for toy
Sony and Microsoft knows that very well - they know how good these are selling in developing countries - they just dont. Its like i know someone who knows someone that owns a PS4.
I maybe translate for u how good the PS4 is doing:
***346;wietne wyniki sprzeda***380;y PS4 w Polsce: 100 tys. sztuk coraz bli***380;ej
Great selling of PS4 in Poland: 100k coming...
and that's it 100k for 38.530.000 ppl
that number should be even less with nintendo - just doesn't exist, because in Poland we want to play AAA titles, some of those ppl have a gaming PC or a PS4 - not together its very rare
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I wish Nintendo would return to form, something with some actual power behind it. Like I get that their games are more focused on younger generation and stuff, but the console should at least be able to play current AAA titles. They can't ride the Wii/Wii U gimmick forever.