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#5801538 Posted on: 06/20/2020 04:32 PM
Really dont understand this comment and others like it.
You can ger a 10400 + "motherboard" for less then a "decent" z490 board costs too, so why compare it randomly to a x570?
Your comment makes it sound like there is some super high cost associated with the AMD platform while convienently forgetting x570 isn't the only board out there, just like the z490 isn't the only board on intels 10th gen processor.
Even the guy you are quoting is talking about a $200 motherboard, which comes to near $400, and there are plenty of good x570 motherboarda for under $400, heck, there are a couple x570 motherboars for under the $200 that the z490 he listed cost.
At the present time, AMD motherboard prices are heavily inflated beyond where they should be. I've run across several boards that are now priced 3x what they were a few months ago.....
I've been pricing upgrades for my son's computer, since it's my old i5 6600K system.... Even gave the prices in that same post. I didn't make any random comparisons. I even listed the exact motherboards, based on current availability, that are potential options. You guys act like price and availability hasn't changed, which is far from being the truth.
Given the current prices of AMD motherboards, it's actually cheaper to go Intel....thus, makes more sense. Example; I can upgrade my son's PC from an i5 6600K with MSI Z170A Gaming Pro to an i5 10400 with MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus for ~$373....or I can use an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus and R5 3600 and spend ~$468
Since he uses the system for nothing but web browsing and gaming, the R5 3600 has little real advantage, but would cost me $95 more due to inflated motherboard pricing. I could save that $95 and go with Intel and an i5 10400 or save $55 and go with an i5 10500.... The alternative would be an R3 3300X which, depending on the seller, is going for $130 - $200 with an MSI MPG B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi, which is $220.
There's also the limited availability of AMD boards. If you can't get the board, the price doesn't matter.... Pricing for AMD motherboards has gone up drastically, while availability is almost non-existent.... If someone is looking to build a system NOW, all that matters is price/availability NOW.....not a month or more away.
Really dont understand this comment and others like it.
You can ger a 10400 + "motherboard" for less then a "decent" z490 board costs too, so why compare it randomly to a x570?
Your comment makes it sound like there is some super high cost associated with the AMD platform while convienently forgetting x570 isn't the only board out there, just like the z490 isn't the only board on intels 10th gen processor.
Even the guy you are quoting is talking about a $200 motherboard, which comes to near $400, and there are plenty of good x570 motherboarda for under $400, heck, there are a couple x570 motherboars for under the $200 that the z490 he listed cost.
At the present time, AMD motherboard prices are heavily inflated beyond where they should be. I've run across several boards that are now priced 3x what they were a few months ago.....
I've been pricing upgrades for my son's computer, since it's my old i5 6600K system.... Even gave the prices in that same post. I didn't make any random comparisons. I even listed the exact motherboards, based on current availability, that are potential options. You guys act like price and availability hasn't changed, which is far from being the truth.
Given the current prices of AMD motherboards, it's actually cheaper to go Intel....thus, makes more sense. Example; I can upgrade my son's PC from an i5 6600K with MSI Z170A Gaming Pro to an i5 10400 with MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus for ~$373....or I can use an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus and R5 3600 and spend ~$468
Since he uses the system for nothing but web browsing and gaming, the R5 3600 has little real advantage, but would cost me $95 more due to inflated motherboard pricing. I could save that $95 and go with Intel and an i5 10400 or save $55 and go with an i5 10500.... The alternative would be an R3 3300X which, depending on the seller, is going for $130 - $200 with an MSI MPG B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi, which is $220.
There's also the limited availability of AMD boards. If you can't get the board, the price doesn't matter.... Pricing for AMD motherboards has gone up drastically, while availability is almost non-existent.... If someone is looking to build a system NOW, all that matters is price/availability NOW.....not a month or more away.
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#5802069 Posted on: 06/22/2020 08:08 PM
@sykozis If your son is browsing and gaming with a 360, A x470 and even 450 board with work nicely.
Why would he need a x570?
@sykozis If your son is browsing and gaming with a 360, A x470 and even 450 board with work nicely.
Why would he need a x570?
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#5802146 Posted on: 06/23/2020 12:40 AM
@sykozis If your son is browsing and gaming with a 360, A x470 and even 450 board with work nicely.
Why would he need a x570?
An MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max Wifi is still $250.... Or am I supposed to buy another board that lacks features and is overpriced, or is unavailable?
@sykozis If your son is browsing and gaming with a 360, A x470 and even 450 board with work nicely.
Why would he need a x570?
An MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max Wifi is still $250.... Or am I supposed to buy another board that lacks features and is overpriced, or is unavailable?
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#5803275 Posted on: 06/25/2020 05:28 PM
Do you want to keep labels out of this?
Did you see his very first post, and how is it in any relation to this topic at all? For a topic that has nothing at all, what-so-ever, to do with intel and then to delve into intel vs AMD based on his one comment, is absolutely a problem.
So, do you agree with his first comment? Are you condoning his behaviour? If you are, you might be a part of this problem. Just because you have spent your entire life on one forum doesn't give your personal belief a reason to be above others. I hope this is succinct.
I fail to see what he's whining about.
Do you want to keep labels out of this?
Did you see his very first post, and how is it in any relation to this topic at all? For a topic that has nothing at all, what-so-ever, to do with intel and then to delve into intel vs AMD based on his one comment, is absolutely a problem.
So, do you agree with his first comment? Are you condoning his behaviour? If you are, you might be a part of this problem. Just because you have spent your entire life on one forum doesn't give your personal belief a reason to be above others. I hope this is succinct.
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I'm actually considering upgrading my son's system to that same pair..... Pretty sad that it's possible to get a 10400 + mobo for less than the cost of a decent x570 motherboard.....
Really dont understand this comment and others like it.
You can ger a 10400 + "motherboard" for less then a "decent" z490 board costs too, so why compare it randomly to a x570?
Your comment makes it sound like there is some super high cost associated with the AMD platform while convienently forgetting x570 isn't the only board out there, just like the z490 isn't the only board on intels 10th gen processor.
Even the guy you are quoting is talking about a $200 motherboard, which comes to near $400, and there are plenty of good x570 motherboarda for under $400, heck, there are a couple x570 motherboars for under the $200 that the z490 he listed cost.