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AMD Ryzen ZEN3 architecture not delayed, still to be released in 2020 says AMD
This week there has been a report from Digitimes that Ryzen ZEN3 based processors would be moved towards 2021. I am currenty in a conference call with AMD, they are denying that rumor.
We can be short and blunt about this, ZEN3 aka Vermeer is still on track for a 2020 release. This is confirmed with AMD, and info which we're allowed to share. So yeah, Digitimes had it wrong for a change. it's good to hear AMD confirming this.
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Asus recently announced an offering for miniPCs, this round they're based on AMD Ryzen 4000-U Series processors. Mostly used in Ultra portbales the 15 Watt SoC can also be used to power up mini PC. ...
AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT and Ryzen 9 3900XT Will Not Get Coolers Included - 06/16/2020 08:26 AM
Most previous Ryzen 3000 models received some sort of WRAITH cooler, however, the upcoming Ryzen 7 3800XT and Ryzen 9 3900XT will not get boxed with a cooler....
AMD Ryzen 3 4300U can play Crysis, even with the CPU cooler removed - 06/15/2020 02:12 PM
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT and Ryzen 9 3900XT Listed on Amazon with a shipping Date - 06/15/2020 09:16 AM
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#5801241 Posted on: 06/19/2020 04:01 PM
^^ Doing the same, though I am looking at the 3900x.
^^ Doing the same, though I am looking at the 3900x.
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#5801254 Posted on: 06/19/2020 04:21 PM
Not to keep your hopes up, but some brands might attempt to implement compatibility with Zen3 on older boards. I have doubts mine will, but it is worth considering.
For me personally, if Zen3's IPC is less than 10% better, I'll probably go for a 3700 (I shouldn't go any higher due to my mobo's 4-pin CPU power connector). If the IPC is more than 10% better and my mobo won't be compatible with it, I'm just going to wait for AM5 or whatever the next-gen socket will be.
I will be considering upgrading my 1800x to the 3800xt. However I plan to wait for Zen3 to weigh my options of direct CPU replacement or getting a motherboard plus CPU.
Not to keep your hopes up, but some brands might attempt to implement compatibility with Zen3 on older boards. I have doubts mine will, but it is worth considering.
For me personally, if Zen3's IPC is less than 10% better, I'll probably go for a 3700 (I shouldn't go any higher due to my mobo's 4-pin CPU power connector). If the IPC is more than 10% better and my mobo won't be compatible with it, I'm just going to wait for AM5 or whatever the next-gen socket will be.
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#5801263 Posted on: 06/19/2020 04:43 PM
Not to keep your hopes up, but some brands might attempt to implement compatibility with Zen3 on older boards. I have doubts mine will, but it is worth considering.
For me personally, if Zen3's IPC is less than 10% better, I'll probably go for a 3700 (I shouldn't go any higher due to my mobo's 4-pin CPU power connector). If the IPC is more than 10% better and my mobo won't be compatible with it, I'm just going to wait for AM5 or whatever the next-gen socket will be.
Yeah this is basically my thought process and my hope on x370(I do have the highest end gigabyte x370 board so maybe but not holding my breath). However I will not wait for AM5 as I have 4 DIMM's(32GB) of very good quality single rank Samsung B die that I would like to use a bit longer. I don't "need" to upgrade but a large percentage of performance can be gained from gen 1 Ryzen without having to change memory or possibly the motherboard so I will take advantage of it one way or another.
Not to keep your hopes up, but some brands might attempt to implement compatibility with Zen3 on older boards. I have doubts mine will, but it is worth considering.
For me personally, if Zen3's IPC is less than 10% better, I'll probably go for a 3700 (I shouldn't go any higher due to my mobo's 4-pin CPU power connector). If the IPC is more than 10% better and my mobo won't be compatible with it, I'm just going to wait for AM5 or whatever the next-gen socket will be.
Yeah this is basically my thought process and my hope on x370(I do have the highest end gigabyte x370 board so maybe but not holding my breath). However I will not wait for AM5 as I have 4 DIMM's(32GB) of very good quality single rank Samsung B die that I would like to use a bit longer. I don't "need" to upgrade but a large percentage of performance can be gained from gen 1 Ryzen without having to change memory or possibly the motherboard so I will take advantage of it one way or another.
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#5801440 Posted on: 06/20/2020 03:21 AM
I did consider AMD before buying the 10400 for that system, but the best deal I could find was the 10400 and a MSI mpg z490 gaming edge wifi. The equivalent AMD system would have been more expensive, and I would have had to buy a separate GPU. The 10400 has the built in graphics which is all it needed for that system.
I'm actually considering upgrading my son's system to that same pair..... Pretty sad that it's possible to get a 10400 + mobo for less than the cost of a decent x570 motherboard.....
Dude. Why are you such a fanboy? Every single thread is just the same damn thing over and over and over, every time you open your mouth. Give it a rest for once.
Is intel buying you a new house or a car? If not then be a consumer like the rest of us, buy what makes most sense at the time of your purchase. And even if Intel made the most sense for you to buy, stop tyring to impose your decisions on the rest of us. You are not Jesus, so we have no obligation to listen to you. End of story.
Brand fanboyism is only going to hurt us, not help us. Stop acting like a 12 year old.
Whether the purchase makes sense to you or not, it's HIS money and he can buy whatever he wants. Given the current prices of AMD motherboards, it's actually cheaper to go Intel....thus, makes more sense. Example; I can upgrade my son's PC from an i5 6600K with MSI Z170A Gaming Pro to an i5 10400 with MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus for ~$373....or I can use an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus and R5 3600 and spend ~$468.... Which makes more sense? I'd rather go Intel and save $95....
There is actually no where in any of his posts that he's trying to impose his decisions on anyone. Maybe try a little reading comprehension?
Right, banned for having an opinion (which others here agree with, btw, even in this thread) and answering questions. That's mature too, bud. You could also just not respond if you all you want to do is selectively quote things I say and ignore other things. Go take a chill pill and stop taking something personally you shouldn't be.
I've read all of your posts up to this point.... I fail to see what he's whining about. Keep in mind, I'm posting this from a full AMD build.....with another full AMD build in another room and parts for yet a 3rd full AMD build also in the other room.....and half way to a 4th full AMD build sitting on the shelf behind me.... I only own 4 Intel systems, 3 being laptops, at this point..... I'll do a full Intel build when they finally release a worthwhile dedicated GPU.
It's my firm belief that he's failing to comprehend what you're actually saying.....or, I'm missing the subliminal message that's embedded in your posts....
I did consider AMD before buying the 10400 for that system, but the best deal I could find was the 10400 and a MSI mpg z490 gaming edge wifi. The equivalent AMD system would have been more expensive, and I would have had to buy a separate GPU. The 10400 has the built in graphics which is all it needed for that system.
I'm actually considering upgrading my son's system to that same pair..... Pretty sad that it's possible to get a 10400 + mobo for less than the cost of a decent x570 motherboard.....
Dude. Why are you such a fanboy? Every single thread is just the same damn thing over and over and over, every time you open your mouth. Give it a rest for once.
Is intel buying you a new house or a car? If not then be a consumer like the rest of us, buy what makes most sense at the time of your purchase. And even if Intel made the most sense for you to buy, stop tyring to impose your decisions on the rest of us. You are not Jesus, so we have no obligation to listen to you. End of story.
Brand fanboyism is only going to hurt us, not help us. Stop acting like a 12 year old.
Whether the purchase makes sense to you or not, it's HIS money and he can buy whatever he wants. Given the current prices of AMD motherboards, it's actually cheaper to go Intel....thus, makes more sense. Example; I can upgrade my son's PC from an i5 6600K with MSI Z170A Gaming Pro to an i5 10400 with MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus for ~$373....or I can use an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus and R5 3600 and spend ~$468.... Which makes more sense? I'd rather go Intel and save $95....
There is actually no where in any of his posts that he's trying to impose his decisions on anyone. Maybe try a little reading comprehension?
Right, banned for having an opinion (which others here agree with, btw, even in this thread) and answering questions. That's mature too, bud. You could also just not respond if you all you want to do is selectively quote things I say and ignore other things. Go take a chill pill and stop taking something personally you shouldn't be.
I've read all of your posts up to this point.... I fail to see what he's whining about. Keep in mind, I'm posting this from a full AMD build.....with another full AMD build in another room and parts for yet a 3rd full AMD build also in the other room.....and half way to a 4th full AMD build sitting on the shelf behind me.... I only own 4 Intel systems, 3 being laptops, at this point..... I'll do a full Intel build when they finally release a worthwhile dedicated GPU.
It's my firm belief that he's failing to comprehend what you're actually saying.....or, I'm missing the subliminal message that's embedded in your posts....
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I will be considering upgrading my 1800x to the 3800xt. However I plan to wait for Zen3 to weigh my options of direct CPU replacement or getting a motherboard plus CPU.