AMD Ryzen R7, R5 and R3 Processor Line-up listed

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/04/2017 08:50 AM | source: | 57 comment(s)

Ah yes, a new day a new Ryzen related post! This one is fairly tasty and interesting though as website coolaler is listing the complete line up of AMD Ryzen processors, including names.

Previously we have talked about the R7, R5 and R3 denominators comparable to Core i3, i5 and i7 for the Ryzen product range. From what Coolaler (with an unknown source I would like to add) is listing there will be 17 models released 8C/16T, 6C/12T, 4C/8T, 4C/4T yet weirdly enough, not a 8C/8T. And yes that reads as the number of cores and threads.

AMD R7 is the 8C/16T series with 5 models: R7 1800X, R7 PRO 1800, R7 1700X, R7 1700, R7 PRO 1700 we guess is X is the identifier for unlocked.

Processor	Cores	Threads	Base Clock	Comparable Perf
AMD R7 1800X	8	16	3.0 - 3.6 GHz	Core i7 6900K
AMD R7 Pro 1800	8	16	3.0 - 3.6 GHz
AMD R7 1700X	8	16	3.0 - 3.6 GHz	Core i7 7700K/6800K
AMD R7 1700	8	16	3.0 - 3.6 GHz	Core i7 7700
AMD R7 Pro 1700	8	16	3.0 - 3.6 GHz
AMD R5 1600X	6	12	3.2 - 3.5 GHz	Core i5 7600K
AMD R5 Pro 1600	6	12	3.2 - 3.5 GHz	Core i5 7600
AMD R5 1500	6	12	3.2 - 3.5 GHz	Core i5 7500
AMD R5 Pro 1500	6	12	3.2 - 3.5 GHz
AMD R5 1400X	4	8	3.2 - 3.5 GHz	Core i5 7400
AMD R5 Pro 1400	4	8	3.2 - 3.5 GHz
AMD R5 1300	4	8	3.2 - 3.5 GHz
AMD R5 Pro 1300	4	8	3.2 - 3.5 GHz
AMD R3 1200X	4	4	3.1 - 3.4 GHz
AMD R3 Pro 1200	4	4	3.1 - 3.4 GHz
AMD R3 1100	4	4	3.1 - 3.4 GHz
AMD R3 Pro 1100	4	4	3.1 - 3.4 GHz

Also the the PRO extension is unclear. Final R7 clocks frequencies are unknown but Coolaler is listing 3.0GHz ~ 3.6GHz for the base clocks with we assume up-to 4.0 GHz boost/turbo clocks.

The more mainstream AMD R5 range will see 6C12T and 4C8T processors. Two of the four from a total of 8 models, including R5 1600X, R5 PRO 1600, R5 1500, R5 PRO 1500, R5 1400X, R5 PRO 1400, R5 1300, R5 PRO 1300, you can see an X Version for the 1600 and 1400. Baseclocks will start at 3.2GHz up-to 3.5GHz, with unspecified Turbo frequencies.

Then there is the more entry level AMD R3 range with is 4C4T. Four are the R3 1200X, R3 PRO 1200, R3 1100, R3 PRO 1100, there is one X version, the base clock is 3.1 ~ 3.4GHz with unspecified turbos. Not bad for entry level processors starting at quad core. It does confirm the fact that there will not be any dual-core processors.

From the looks of it AMD Ryzen will become available March 2. All information in this news item remains speculation as we cannot verify how coolaler has obtained this info. Thanks chispy for the news-submit.

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#5388619 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:15 AM

If zen with 6c/12t will go against intel i5 4c/4t is bad, very bad, worst than vishera. I hope are only rumors.

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#5388622 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:28 AM

No 8 Core / 8 Thread?

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#5388624 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:35 AM

No non-hyperthreaded units? Huh, strange...

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#5388625 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:35 AM

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#5388627 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:52 AM

If the R7 1800X is a factory-oc model like the old FX-9590 Vishera, that needs advanced cooling to touch on the i7-6900K performance at almost double the power consumption, then I don’t need it.

The fact that they are pitting 6C/12T CPU models against the Intel i5 (4C/4T) is not a good sign.

Also, an 8C/16T CPU that hits at the 4C/8T Core i7-7700K is not going to do well in most games.

I7 6900 have a 140W TDP when the max TDP of AMD Ryzen is 95W ... what are you talking about ?

The 7700 is the fastest Intel CPU in games, so if it meet it, why will you it is bad ? ( in fact this list put it at both the leve of the 8core (6900K) from Intel and the 7700K.. so i will maybe not much read in it as that will mean it touch both the quadcore at 4.4ghz, and the 8cores at 3.7ghz )

If you see the list, he put the faster Intel CPU as comparaison... ANd i enjoin to read the traduction ( even if google is really not reliable for it ) ..

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#5388628 Posted on: 02/04/2017 09:58 AM

If zen with 6c/12t will go against intel i5 4c/4t is bad, very bad, worst than vishera. I hope are only rumors.

Hmm..? That's what an Intel stock owner would say. From a consumer's point of view if the same price gets you a 6 core, 12 threads CPU with superior performance, it would be jolly good. It would be something Intel should have done years ago, but in lack of competition didn't bother, placing greed before vision and ambition.

It has been repeated over and over again, but AMD is in a very bad underdog position in the CPU market. If they really want to make a glorious comeback, they absolutely need to offer something better for the same money, at least for the bulk of the selection even if they can't beat Intel's 1000+ dollars chips. We are only talking about consumer's money here. Let's not forget these Zen chips don't include a GPU at all, so manufacturing costs should be reasonable indeed.

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#5388630 Posted on: 02/04/2017 10:09 AM

If zen with 6c/12t will go against intel i5 4c/4t is bad, very bad, worst than vishera. I hope are only rumors.

I last heard was they not going to be doing any odd ball cores CPU only 8C/8T or 16T and 4C/4T or 8T with possible of 2C/2T or 4T with SMT (Simultaneous multithreading).

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#5388633 Posted on: 02/04/2017 10:28 AM

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#5388636 Posted on: 02/04/2017 10:48 AM

I admit, this looks bad when i5 7600 which is fresh model of my 6600 needs additional 2 cores and 8 threads from AMD just to compete. That means Ryzen core is not impressive, it will be slower in -up to 4 threaded games-, or maybe, a tiny bit of chance that this chart does not represent a performance segmentation, it is only a price segmentation which would mean that R3 1200X is good enough to compete with i5 7600...

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#5388637 Posted on: 02/04/2017 10:50 AM

Look the list ... how can it compete with a 7700K, a 6900K and dont beat an 7600 then ? how a 8 cores with x clock speed can compete with the quadcore 7700K ( 4.4ghz ), and the 6cores will not match it ? ( the 7700K beat all high the 6900 in non professional applications ) if the 6cores is clocked the same of the 8cores .. why will it not compete too with the 7700K ..

Dont read too much on this list. ( who seems aimed at price configuration more than performance )

We know so far that Ryzen have a faster IPC than Intel 6th series ( as we have allready the benchmark from canardPC released with an slow ES samples ( 3.3ghz on turbo who was mostly run at 3.15ghz ).. then dont need to be a genius for understand the IPC of Ryzen at 4ghz . )

The problem i got with this list is why will you have 4 different sku and price for the 8cores.. 4 different sku for the 6cores and even more for the 4cores.. it dont make much sense, specially when all cpus are unlocked.

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#5388644 Posted on: 02/04/2017 11:43 AM

So IPC wise if Ryzen is as good or faster than kaby-lake, the only thing Intel would have to do to offer me a better deal - they would have to offer me at least a 6 core 12 threaded part for the same amount of cash as AMD but it has to fit in my skylake socket that i already have.

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#5388646 Posted on: 02/04/2017 11:48 AM

If zen with 6c/12t will go against intel i5 4c/4t is bad, very bad, worst than vishera. I hope are only rumors.

Or, like, it's the only way to convince people with an Intel fetish to maybe even consider an AMD CPU again. If it is correct, this seems to be a price chart, not a performance chart. All indications show that Zen cores have similar IPC to Broadwell-E cores, and there are hints that when they are working together they are doing so in a better way than the Intel cores. Although I probably won't upgrade my CPU yet (my GPU is the first one to change), I hope that Zen is what it seems to be up to this point.

From the Intel financial report at Deutsche Bank (read it, it's interesting for a lot of things), I got the feeling that Intel has really nothing to actually compete with it until Cannonlake.

Ross C. Seymore (Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc): That’s very helpful. I guess as my follow-up, you talked about the ASPs in answering a prior question. I wondered about the competitive intensity in the PC market. You’re taking a more conservative tack than the third-party vendors are forecasting, but your primary x86 competitor is coming out with a new architecture for the first time in many, many years. So, I wonder whether it’s on the ASP or the unit or the market share side how you’re factoring that into your forecast for the year.

Brian M. Krzanich (Intel Corp): Sure. I would tell you that we always look at this environment and say there’s going to be a competitive risk in the environment. And we’re always focused on really, our own product roadmap and making sure that we have the highest performance product. So, when we look at 2017, we still believe that our product roadmap is truly the best ever it’s been.

Observe the language. He's basically telling them: This is a risky business, there are competitive risks. Then he goes into defensive mode saying "we don't care what they do", then he says that they have the highest performance product, but he gives no nuance to it, like, what does he mean? They have the fastest product per core? The product with the most cores? A 48-core Xeon will be faster than the 32-core Naples, if he means it this way. And a quad core i7 will probably be faster than a quad core Zen, so yeah, they will have the "faster product". Then he ends up by saying that their own 2017 roadmap has been the best roadmap they've ever had. Well, that's not news exactly, that happens every year. Every year's roadmap is better than the previous year one.

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#5388651 Posted on: 02/04/2017 11:54 AM

Intel's brainwashing is strong...

Normally when you want to beat something, you offer more, not the same. But since Intel has been offering the same old stuff year after year, generation after generation, it results in some people thinking that nothing can ever change. The truth that Intel didn't want you to think about is that we should have had 6 core i5s years ago already. The only reason we don't is Intel's greed and lack of ambition in the no-competition environment.

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#5388656 Posted on: 02/04/2017 12:15 PM

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#5388659 Posted on: 02/04/2017 12:23 PM

I am confused. An 8c/16t amd cpu goes up against an 8c/16t intel cpu. That's great, that's what we want to see. But an 8c/16t amd cpu also goes up against a 4c/8t intel cpu? What's going on there? Also 6c/12t dukes is out with 4c/4t? There are so many things wrong with that table, I'm really hoping it's fake.

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