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AMD Ryzen Quad-Core 2+2 versus 4+0 Core Setups Analyzed

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/27/2017 04:28 PM | source: | 96 comment(s)
AMD Ryzen Quad-Core 2+2 versus 4+0 Core Setups Analyzed

The game performance of Ryzen processors has been topic of much discussion ever since the CPUs have been released. The 8-core parts are 2x 4 cores clusters called a CCX each. In-between the two CCXes is an interconnect for caches and communication etc. 

The now commonly accepted thesis is that the bandwidth over that inter connect is limited. It clocks similar to your DDR4 memory, hence faster memory does have an effect on game performance. So with 8-cores, how would game performance be if you used just 4 cores on one CCX, or 2 cores per CCX? As in theory, if you shut down two cores per CCX, that interconnect would not be flooded so much and in theory that should increase CPU bound (lower resolution) game-performance. 

The guys over at Hardware Unboxed (a YouTube channel) put that to the test as the ASUS HERO motherboard allows to configure these setups in the BIOS. The end results are interesting, as really .. whatever configuration you choose, it just doesn’t matter that much. And that also tells a thing or two about upcoming 6 and 4 core processors from AMD.

Long story short, your best bet for faster game CPU bound game performance, remains to be overclocking the processor a bit and using fast high frequency memory. 

Source Hardware Unboxed (YouTube) via TPU. Have a peek at the game results below, you can click the thumbnails.



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rl66
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#5412973 Posted on: 03/27/2017 05:01 PM
7700K is 4.8GHz and ryzen 4.0GHz so add another 20% for ryzen and compare clock to clock and situation changes in favor of ryzen so i think amd has done good job with ryzen.


clock to clock is stupid as they haven't the same reference architecture.
(it's like comparing a pentium D 955 VS a core 2 duo clock to clock).

even with difference of clock they should be compared stock clock.

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#5412976 Posted on: 03/27/2017 05:08 PM
7700K is 4.8GHz and ryzen 4.0GHz so add another 20% for ryzen and compare clock to clock and situation changes in favor of ryzen so i think amd has done good job with ryzen.


Since when is 7700k 4.8ghz?

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#5412977 Posted on: 03/27/2017 05:08 PM
Well memory bandwidth seems to increase performance quite a bit, kinda reminds me of the P4 netburst where high latency cache prefers high bandwidth memory, same for the AMD FX chips. However not sure if this is memory bandwidth or the fact the bus speed has increased from 100MHz to 123MHz increasing PCI-e throughput significantly which much like the AMD FX overclocking the HT yielded very good performance gains. Since all traffic is going through this 4x PCIe 3.0 connection 4GB/sec each direction graphics cards start taking a noise drive at this speed and have other stuff connected to it i think that extra 23MHz = 23% more data traffic will help more than the memory it's self. Good luck getting to 3600MHz memory need Samsung chips to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA#t=0.151099

isidore
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#5412979 Posted on: 03/27/2017 05:16 PM
Since when is 7700k 4.8ghz?


Since it's saying in the screens. He is referring to the speed they run the benches.

Unilythe
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#5412980 Posted on: 03/27/2017 05:16 PM
Since when is 7700k 4.8ghz?


A bit tunnelvision here. Since when is Ryzen 4.0GHz? They're both clocked higher in his example.

They're obviously both overclocked numbers. Both frequencies are the most reliable overclocks for said CPU's.

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