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AMD Ryzen price reductions last until December 2nd
Last Monday we reported about massive price reductions on Ryzen processors, up to 30% discounts. Example, you can purchase an 8-core flagship Ryzen 7 1800X processor (normally €499) for roughly €340 euros. New information shows that the discounts last until December 2nd.
While AMD refused to comment on the price reductions (we asked), the purchasing prices of retailers have been temporarily reduced. All Ryzen processors including Threadripper are 10% up-to even 30% cheaper than before. Germany based ComputerBase herd back from suppliers that the promotion lasts until December 2, so that is another eleven days.
The price drop seems to have an effect on the entire range. The below table shows prices based on the Netherlands, however, if you browse for a 1800X at Geizhals, be surprised. Also a Ryzen 7 1700 (unlocked) for €249 for 16 threads? €199 for 12 threads :-)
| Ryzen 7 | Ryzen 5 | Threadripper | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1800X | 1700X | 1700 | 1600X | 1600 | 1500X | 1950X | 1920X | 1900X | |
| Recommended retail price | $ 499 | $ 399 | $ 329 | $ 249 | $ 219 | $ 189 | $ 999 | $ 799 | $549 |
| Average price | € 479 | € 369 | € 317 | € 249 | € 216 | € 191 | € 1021 | € 809 | € 549 |
| Cheapest price | € 340 | € 290 | € 249 | € 214 | € 199 | € 169 | € 830 | € 670 | € 470 |
| Discount | 29% | 21% | 21% | 14% | 8% | 12% | 19% | 17% | 14% |
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#5494732 Posted on: 11/22/2017 06:26 PM
36% off here to/ Wow that's a good deal...
36% off here to/ Wow that's a good deal...
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#5494750 Posted on: 11/22/2017 08:14 PM
Just ordered 2 Ryzen 5 1600's one for myself and one for a customer for 230$cad each or 180$us, I was going to hold off on buying one for myself but at that price i couldn't resist.
Just ordered 2 Ryzen 5 1600's one for myself and one for a customer for 230$cad each or 180$us, I was going to hold off on buying one for myself but at that price i couldn't resist.
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#5494751 Posted on: 11/22/2017 08:14 PM
They are probably clearing inventory before zen+ arrives,but man what a deals if somebody at the start of this year told me that before the year ends you could buy 8c/16t processor for 300$,i would have think he is on a good road to loonie house
They are probably clearing inventory before zen+ arrives,but man what a deals if somebody at the start of this year told me that before the year ends you could buy 8c/16t processor for 300$,i would have think he is on a good road to loonie house
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#5494759 Posted on: 11/22/2017 08:34 PM
R7 1700 is 260US$ on amazon..
R7 1700 is 260US$ on amazon..
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#5494785 Posted on: 11/22/2017 10:14 PM
Well, I just jumped on a threadripper 1950x - cant wait to see what it can do, it my first AMD chip since Athlon 64 days
Well, I just jumped on a threadripper 1950x - cant wait to see what it can do, it my first AMD chip since Athlon 64 days
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#5494786 Posted on: 11/22/2017 10:17 PM
Just bought the 1700x as well when i saw the prices. Didn't know there was a price reduction.
I aimed for a 1700 this month, not sure if the 1700x is much faster though.
Just bought the 1700x as well when i saw the prices. Didn't know there was a price reduction.
I aimed for a 1700 this month, not sure if the 1700x is much faster though.
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#5494792 Posted on: 11/22/2017 10:47 PM
extremely clever marketing by bringing Europe into the "black friday" sales. thereby getting more folks into the AMD camp...
the very big plus is that all the new AM4 mobo's are forward compatible, meaning upgrades for the new folks are going to be very reasonable... that shiny new rig can just have that latest Ryzen+ (or 2...whatever) popped right in without worry.
extremely clever marketing by bringing Europe into the "black friday" sales. thereby getting more folks into the AMD camp...
the very big plus is that all the new AM4 mobo's are forward compatible, meaning upgrades for the new folks are going to be very reasonable... that shiny new rig can just have that latest Ryzen+ (or 2...whatever) popped right in without worry.
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#5494923 Posted on: 11/23/2017 11:50 AM
If the rumors of an early refresh are true, I might just replace my 1600x and use it for an SFF build. Not that I need it, but I want to get some experience building SFF. I'll either give it away or use it as a media center later on.
If the rumors of an early refresh are true, I might just replace my 1600x and use it for an SFF build. Not that I need it, but I want to get some experience building SFF. I'll either give it away or use it as a media center later on.
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#5494959 Posted on: 11/23/2017 02:37 PM
extremely clever marketing by bringing Europe into the "black friday" sales. thereby getting more folks into the AMD camp...
the very big plus is that all the new AM4 mobo's are forward compatible, meaning upgrades for the new folks are going to be very reasonable... that shiny new rig can just have that latest Ryzen+ (or 2...whatever) popped right in without worry.
I think the same. Excellent prices getting more people onto the AM4 platform and therefore an easy upgrade path, even a couple of years down the line.
extremely clever marketing by bringing Europe into the "black friday" sales. thereby getting more folks into the AMD camp...
the very big plus is that all the new AM4 mobo's are forward compatible, meaning upgrades for the new folks are going to be very reasonable... that shiny new rig can just have that latest Ryzen+ (or 2...whatever) popped right in without worry.
I think the same. Excellent prices getting more people onto the AM4 platform and therefore an easy upgrade path, even a couple of years down the line.
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#5494964 Posted on: 11/23/2017 02:40 PM
Yeah if AMD keeps their pricing at this level (meaning the usual pricing) I see myself switching to Ryzen+ / Ryzen 2.0 and thereafter if they're enough of a performance bump vs. Ryzen.
Yeah if AMD keeps their pricing at this level (meaning the usual pricing) I see myself switching to Ryzen+ / Ryzen 2.0 and thereafter if they're enough of a performance bump vs. Ryzen.
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#5494969 Posted on: 11/23/2017 02:55 PM
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
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#5494993 Posted on: 11/23/2017 04:04 PM
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
IMHO: even though modern Windows is able to run when the MB+CPU changes, I would still recommend a fresh install. Even when upgrading within the same brand/ecosystem. You can't know what kind of low-level stuff OS configures during installation, that is impossible to re-configure later during runtime or start-up.
For me it is also kind of a "cleansing" experience, especially if I ran the same system for several years. Various mess and one-off utilities pile up over time and it feels good to just throw it out completely and install only what I need and use regularly. I can always install whatever I want when I need it.
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
IMHO: even though modern Windows is able to run when the MB+CPU changes, I would still recommend a fresh install. Even when upgrading within the same brand/ecosystem. You can't know what kind of low-level stuff OS configures during installation, that is impossible to re-configure later during runtime or start-up.
For me it is also kind of a "cleansing" experience, especially if I ran the same system for several years. Various mess and one-off utilities pile up over time and it feels good to just throw it out completely and install only what I need and use regularly. I can always install whatever I want when I need it.
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#5494997 Posted on: 11/23/2017 04:24 PM
IMHO: even though modern Windows is able to run when the MB+CPU changes, I would still recommend a fresh install. Even when upgrading within the same brand/ecosystem. You can't know what kind of low-level stuff OS configures during installation, that is impossible to re-configure later during runtime or start-up.
For me it is also kind of a "cleansing" experience, especially if I ran the same system for several years. Various mess and one-off utilities pile up over time and it feels good to just throw it out completely and install only what I need and use regularly. I can always install whatever I want when I need it.
Yes i have done this myself a few times over the years when upgrading Windows or when C drive fails... but it is a total pain in the ass if you haven't got the time for it... or are not building a new machine from scratch.
It also "tricks" you into thinking your new machine is faster than the old because of your new hardware, when a lot of the time Windows is just faster because it is fresh and doesn't have all that stuff Windows builds up on every app install or upgrade (the massive inefficient hidden folder of millions of versions of old files for compatibility and registry). Windows *appears to be designed* to slow down over time to trick people into buying new hardware/software.
IMHO: even though modern Windows is able to run when the MB+CPU changes, I would still recommend a fresh install. Even when upgrading within the same brand/ecosystem. You can't know what kind of low-level stuff OS configures during installation, that is impossible to re-configure later during runtime or start-up.
For me it is also kind of a "cleansing" experience, especially if I ran the same system for several years. Various mess and one-off utilities pile up over time and it feels good to just throw it out completely and install only what I need and use regularly. I can always install whatever I want when I need it.
Yes i have done this myself a few times over the years when upgrading Windows or when C drive fails... but it is a total pain in the ass if you haven't got the time for it... or are not building a new machine from scratch.
It also "tricks" you into thinking your new machine is faster than the old because of your new hardware, when a lot of the time Windows is just faster because it is fresh and doesn't have all that stuff Windows builds up on every app install or upgrade (the massive inefficient hidden folder of millions of versions of old files for compatibility and registry). Windows *appears to be designed* to slow down over time to trick people into buying new hardware/software.
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#5495010 Posted on: 11/23/2017 05:13 PM
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
That's why these days i use the portable version of an app when available. The registry might have been a good idea on paper but in practice it ****. I use portable apps and put then on a secondary drive and backup them on an external drive. This way when i have to reinstall windows i have to reinstall just a couple of apps like Visual Studio and Office. For the other apps i just restore my E: drive. I also save settings/saves in the cloud when possible. I love Steam it's so easy to recover backuped games with it. Just copy the Steam folder and these days pretty much all games support cloud saves.
You know I *was* going to build a Ryzen system to replace my ancient X58 Intel motherboard/CPU, but then I saw youtube videos where reviewer said he was having all sort of bugs and errors and crashes until he completely re-installed a fresh Windows installation from his previous Intel based Windows install.
Well there is NO way I am going to reinstall Windows and all programs/utilities and all their updates I have ever used again, so no way I can buy Ryzen system. Much easier to upgrade to 8700K or similar and Intel motherboard and keep all my Windows software as is without having to start from scratch.
And I did really want a Threadripper system and the guaranteed re-use of motherboards that AMD promise for a few years... unlike Intel changing and making motherboard obsolete every year...
That's why these days i use the portable version of an app when available. The registry might have been a good idea on paper but in practice it ****. I use portable apps and put then on a secondary drive and backup them on an external drive. This way when i have to reinstall windows i have to reinstall just a couple of apps like Visual Studio and Office. For the other apps i just restore my E: drive. I also save settings/saves in the cloud when possible. I love Steam it's so easy to recover backuped games with it. Just copy the Steam folder and these days pretty much all games support cloud saves.
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I bagged a 1600 for £136 on amazon (150 euros for perspective), I wasn't going to touch ryzen (summit ridge at least) but at that price makes it a nice little stop gap until the next zen revisions.