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AMD Ryzen Info and Clock Frequency Overview
Over the past week a lot of info on AMD Ryzen surfaced on the web. It is time for a recap, clock frequency overview and a bit of an explanation on the X models.
Ryzen will likely launch with three models. When time passes there will be three tiers with the R7, R5 and R3 denominators comparable to Core i3, i5 and i7 for the Ryzen product range. AMd will launch with three SKUs, the AMD Ryzen R7 1700, AMD Ryzen R7 1700X and AMD Ryzen R7 1800X.
Over the weekend a new rumor was added, the X version would be referred to as XFR technology etc. Personally I doubt it, processors are processors and they have been named quite similar for years. we think the X simply is a short euphemism for Extreme, much like Intel offers Extreme versions of their processors. Extreme versions are binned, tested to be the better parts that can tweak the best. Likely that’s all there is to it.
ALL models will be unlocked, AMD made that bold claim themselves in early January. The X models thus simply are better binned ones with less restrictions on likely voltage.
AMD Ryzen R7 1800X - 499 USD
AMD Ryzen R7 1800X is the flagship processor and it has has 8 cores with 16 threads and is assumed to get a Boost frequency of 4.00 GHz. The boost frequencies are not confirmed, but the indications we have seen the past few weeks would state a 4.0 GHz Turbo and 3.6 GHz base clock. No further data was revealed. Now keep in mind (if the perf is close) a similar 8-core Intel CPU would cost you about 1,200 euros, the cost for the flagship Ryzen R7 1800X processor would be 599.99 euros. These are unlocked (multiplier) processors.
AMD Ryzen R7 1700X - 389 USD
The next AMD Ryzen in line is the R7 1700X, this one would again get 8 cores and 16 threads but this time at a Turbo frequency of 3.80 GHz, so yes this is pretty much the same processor, just with a lower base at 3.4 GHz and Turbo frequency.
AMD Ryzen R7 1700 - 319 USD
Then there is the AMD R7 Ryzen 1700, this would be a top-end CPU for gamers and yes, again you'll receive an 8 core and 16 threads processor. This time at a Turbo frequency of 3.70 GHz, the most notable being that it is the only model that indicates a TDP, which is set as 65W whereas the other two would be 95 Watt parts. The base clock frequency would be 3.0 GHz.
Over the weekend there however has been a new development, some other models have been spotted. I personally do not think the processors listed below aside from the three aforementioned ones will launch anytime soon. Again the above three processors (we think) will launch first.
So later on there could be AMD Ryzen R5 1600X & 1500 – 6 Core, 12 Thread processors in the $229 To $259 price range. Then the AMD Ryzen R5 1400X & 1300 range with 4 Cores, 8 Thread CPUs at 199 To $175. And then the lowest R3 range would see be Ryzen the R3 100X & 1100, these are 4 Core, 4 Thread CPUs with prices in the $149 To $129.
I find the prices on parts that are not yet released to be highly speculative though. For the three release skus the rpices should be pretty spot on.
All these processors would fit Socket AM4 and thus you can use the same motherboard. Below a chart compiled based off the latest info which leaked through Baidu. See screenshots below as well.
| Processor model | Cores/Threads | L3 Cache | TDP | Base | Turbo | Unlocked | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AMD Ryzen R7 1800X | 8/16 | 16MB | 95W | 3.6GHz | 4.0GHz | Yes | $499 |
| AMD Ryzen R7 1700X | 8/16 | 16MB | 95W | 3.4GHz | 3.8GHz | Yes | $389 |
| AMD Ryzen R7 1700 | 8/16 | 16MB | 65W | 3.0GHz | 3.7GHz | Yes | $319 |
| AMD Ryzen R5 1600X | 6/12 | 16MB | 95W | 3.3GHz | 3.7GHz | Yes | $259 |
| AMD Ryzen R5 1500 | 6/12 | 16MB | 65W | 3.2GHz | 3.5GHz | Yes | $229 |
| AMD Ryzen R5 1400X | 4/8 | 8MB | 65W | 3.5GHz | 3.9GHz | Yes | $199 |
| AMD Ryzen R5 1300 | 4/8 | 8MB | 65W | 3.2GHz | 3.5GHz | Yes | $175 |
| AMD Ryzen R3 1200X | 4/4 | 8MB | 65W | 3.4GHz | 3.8GHz | Yes | $149 |
| AMD Ryzen R3 1100 | 4/4 | 8MB | 65W | 3.2GHz | 3.5GHz | Yes | $129 |
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#5392065 Posted on: 02/13/2017 02:14 PM
And, what is also important, Intel's top crystals are APUs. They have GPU, which is useful in case of emergency, like broken video card or PSU and will be useful once DX12 scaling takes off.
I'd rather have a strong CPU that I use 99.99% of time than an iGPU that I might use 0.01% of time. For that 0.01% of time I can just use some old video card lying around.
AMD will release their Zen based APUs later. It would be strange if their iGPU didn't beat Intel's, unless AMD is only aiming really low with their new APUs.
And, what is also important, Intel's top crystals are APUs. They have GPU, which is useful in case of emergency, like broken video card or PSU and will be useful once DX12 scaling takes off.
I'd rather have a strong CPU that I use 99.99% of time than an iGPU that I might use 0.01% of time. For that 0.01% of time I can just use some old video card lying around.
AMD will release their Zen based APUs later. It would be strange if their iGPU didn't beat Intel's, unless AMD is only aiming really low with their new APUs.
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#5392066 Posted on: 02/13/2017 02:15 PM
If we take on that they have more or less the same IPC, how is an octocore at 3.8GHz slower than a quad at 4.2GHz? Like, seriously, how? Is there any sane person which will chose the 7700k over that?
A price/market opponent doesn't really make it a performance opponent. In fact, that's how you disrupt a market.
Yeah, the spare GPU you can get for $50, is a reason to get 4 cores for $400, instead of 8.
How is 8/16 at ~$400 with basically Intel IPC, "catching up"?
WTF is wrong with people in these threads. I know we don't have concrete numbers yet, and it's stupid to judge without them, but we do have a very good idea about what is coming, right? Or we simply pretend?
So 1700X is more expensive than 7700K with similar performance...
If we take on that they have more or less the same IPC, how is an octocore at 3.8GHz slower than a quad at 4.2GHz? Like, seriously, how? Is there any sane person which will chose the 7700k over that?
According to the table we have seen before. Where 1700X was places as opponent to 7700K.
A price/market opponent doesn't really make it a performance opponent. In fact, that's how you disrupt a market.
And, what is also important, Intel's top crystals are APUs. They have GPU, which is useful in case of emergency, like broken video card or PSU and will be useful once DX12 scaling takes off.
Yeah, the spare GPU you can get for $50, is a reason to get 4 cores for $400, instead of 8.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see AMD back on the market, I had lots of AMD and ATi CPU AND GPU before. Also wish to see Elbrus with x86 compatible mode on the mass market. But so far it just doesn't give us Wow effect. More like they still catching up. Though they are much closer now thank to 14 nm.
How is 8/16 at ~$400 with basically Intel IPC, "catching up"?
I can already smell the disappointment of fans, feels like Bulldozer is repeating itself. I would be surprised otherwise
WTF is wrong with people in these threads. I know we don't have concrete numbers yet, and it's stupid to judge without them, but we do have a very good idea about what is coming, right? Or we simply pretend?
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#5392072 Posted on: 02/13/2017 02:26 PM
Fun fact: No source is given for those 'benchmark results' we're discussing here, are there? They have surface on anandtech forums I believe, and now they've been deleted by a mod because of a lack of source.
I'm still waiting on Hilbert's review (and generally, official samples at the reviewer's, not some leaked secretly taken benchmark nobody knows where it's coming from).
Fun fact: No source is given for those 'benchmark results' we're discussing here, are there? They have surface on anandtech forums I believe, and now they've been deleted by a mod because of a lack of source.
I'm still waiting on Hilbert's review (and generally, official samples at the reviewer's, not some leaked secretly taken benchmark nobody knows where it's coming from).
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#5392073 Posted on: 02/13/2017 02:27 PM
Getting so emotional in your argument won't help. These people just share their feelings based on the slow drip AMD has been leaking out. Some days we get encouraging info, some days we don't. I find most of the information encouraging but I can understand the skepticism. One of the most damaging leaks was the chart showing the 8 core AMD product "comparable" to a 4 core Intel counterpart. That "comparable" might had referenced "comparable" price, performance, overall, features, who knows. The problem is it just said "comparable" which would be a really bad sign.
Relax people.
WTF is wrong with people in these threads. I know we don't have concrete numbers yet, and it's stupid to judge without them, but we do have a very good idea about what is coming, right? Or we simply pretend?
Getting so emotional in your argument won't help. These people just share their feelings based on the slow drip AMD has been leaking out. Some days we get encouraging info, some days we don't. I find most of the information encouraging but I can understand the skepticism. One of the most damaging leaks was the chart showing the 8 core AMD product "comparable" to a 4 core Intel counterpart. That "comparable" might had referenced "comparable" price, performance, overall, features, who knows. The problem is it just said "comparable" which would be a really bad sign.
Relax people.
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One of the rival sites has found current benchmarks for the
R7 1700x. It does not rival the i7 7700k. What it rivals is the i7 6900k. Of course until more independent testers can get their hands on these chips, we really will not know what they can do. Been a while since i have been on this forum so not sure if i can post the link.