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AMD Ryzen 9 3800X and other 7nm Procs Surface at Russian Etailer
As we gear up for CES announcements, we do expect to hear a thing or two from AMD. Interestingly enough on a Russian etailer website Series 3000 procs have surfaced, including a Ryzen 9 3800X, yes Zen2.
We, however, do expect announcements and nothing else as AMD did not organize a press day for briefings. So before I continue with this, this round I need to shout out loud, DISCLAIMER, this info could be fake as heck. But this is what the lineup would look like if we are to believe e-katalog:
| AMD Ryzen Desktop Series Processors | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Model | Cores/Threads | Base Clock | Turbo Clock | TDP |
| AMD Ryzen 3000 Series | ||||
| Ryzen 9 3800X |
16C/32T
|
3.9 GHz
|
4.7 GHz
|
125W
|
| Ryzen 7 3700X |
12C/24T
|
4.2 GHz
|
5.0 GHz
|
105W
|
| Ryzen 7 3700 |
12C/24T
|
3.8 GHz
|
4.6 GHz
|
95W
|
| Ryzen 5 3600X |
8C/16T
|
4.0 GHz
|
4.8 GHz
|
95W
|
| Ryzen 5 3600 |
8C/16T
|
3.6 GHz
|
4.4 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 3 3300X |
6C/12T
|
3.5 GHz
|
4.3 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 3 3300 |
6C/12T
|
3.2 GHz
|
4.0 GHz
|
50W
|
| AMD Ryzen 2000 Series | ||||
| Ryzen 7 2700X |
8C/16T
|
3.7 GHz
|
4.3 GHz
|
105W
|
| Ryzen 7 2700 |
8C/16T
|
3.2 GHz
|
4.1 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 5 2600X |
6C/12T
|
3.6 GHz
|
4.2 GHz
|
95W
|
| Ryzen 5 2600 |
6C/12T
|
3.4 GHz
|
3.9 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 5 2400G |
4C/8T
|
3.6 GHz
|
3.9 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 3 2300X |
4C/4T
|
3.5 GHz
|
4.2 GHz
|
65W
|
| Ryzen 3 2200G |
4C/4T
|
3.5 GHz
|
3.7 GHz
|
65W
|
E-Katalog is listing Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5 and 3 series and a Ryzen 9 3800X would feature 16 cores and 32 threads, twice as many as current Ryzen 7 2700X mainstream flagship. The CPU is listed with 125W TDP, which is 20W more than 2700X. Have a peek at the screengrabs below from Russia based E-Katalog via Videocardz.
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#5623606 Posted on: 01/04/2019 05:24 PM
TDP can be adjusted down on all Ryzens. It is MB and its BIOS which should have that option. And CPU/iGPU adheres to those limits way too perfectly.
Therefore you can get older and cheaper 2200G... That's since you want low power and therefore not expecting magical performance.
I did limit clock of 2400G (4C/8T) to 3.6GHz which caped it somewhere around 40W. And I left iGPU at default clock. I undervolted both a bit. It did easily fit default 95W. Even in games it was like 55~75W mostly. When playing movies APU did not really had problems to stay under 25W (HWiNFO64). And that was with 2 screens (120Hz & 240Hz).
I did measure entire system power draw and at idle it was under 30W on wall socket. And under full load under 110W. With single screen I would expect idle power draw to be even lower. System is now used by my father as multimedia center.
Even while it is for media center, go with dual channel memory configuration. 2x8GB I put into system is far more than needed. Therefore 2x4GB is just enough. Using just one stick did reduce APUs performance by good 40% in combined workloads.
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Need to look again in my Asrock bios for Ryzen 1700, could not find it last time i looked.
The low power models tend to be cheaper then a full power CPU because it is generally slower, but if the price is the same I could always make custom power stages, but it would be hard to copy the short bursts Intel does on there laptops for example.
TDP can be adjusted down on all Ryzens. It is MB and its BIOS which should have that option. And CPU/iGPU adheres to those limits way too perfectly.
Therefore you can get older and cheaper 2200G... That's since you want low power and therefore not expecting magical performance.
I did limit clock of 2400G (4C/8T) to 3.6GHz which caped it somewhere around 40W. And I left iGPU at default clock. I undervolted both a bit. It did easily fit default 95W. Even in games it was like 55~75W mostly. When playing movies APU did not really had problems to stay under 25W (HWiNFO64). And that was with 2 screens (120Hz & 240Hz).
I did measure entire system power draw and at idle it was under 30W on wall socket. And under full load under 110W. With single screen I would expect idle power draw to be even lower. System is now used by my father as multimedia center.
Even while it is for media center, go with dual channel memory configuration. 2x8GB I put into system is far more than needed. Therefore 2x4GB is just enough. Using just one stick did reduce APUs performance by good 40% in combined workloads.
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Need to look again in my Asrock bios for Ryzen 1700, could not find it last time i looked.
The low power models tend to be cheaper then a full power CPU because it is generally slower, but if the price is the same I could always make custom power stages, but it would be hard to copy the short bursts Intel does on there laptops for example.
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#5623607 Posted on: 01/04/2019 05:30 PM
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Need to look again in my Asrock bios for Ryzen 1700, could not find it last time i looked.
The low power models tend to be cheaper then a full power CPU because it is generally slower, but if the price is the same I could always make custom power stages, but it would be hard to copy the short bursts Intel does on there laptops for example.
ASRock has it on less intuitive place than others. MSI is most noob friendly and therefore has easiest navigation. Gigabyte has it usually easily found too.
I'll chek my BIOS and post photo.
cTDP has to be on Manual.
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Need to look again in my Asrock bios for Ryzen 1700, could not find it last time i looked.
The low power models tend to be cheaper then a full power CPU because it is generally slower, but if the price is the same I could always make custom power stages, but it would be hard to copy the short bursts Intel does on there laptops for example.
ASRock has it on less intuitive place than others. MSI is most noob friendly and therefore has easiest navigation. Gigabyte has it usually easily found too.
I'll chek my BIOS and post photo.
cTDP has to be on Manual.
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#5623733 Posted on: 01/05/2019 01:56 AM
^ This
^ This
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#5623737 Posted on: 01/05/2019 02:23 AM
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#5623761 Posted on: 01/05/2019 06:48 AM
Thank you for your confirmation.
Actually you are trolling by calling me names in the first place. Just because you got triggered off whatever I said about a "cpu" weather I am right or wrong you should be more polite. This is just further evidence ppl like you can't keep your crappy mouth shut about people who like to talk tech. Have fun being single and alone LOL!!!!
Thank you for your confirmation.
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#5623818 Posted on: 01/05/2019 03:19 PM
That's not kind of leading retailer with exclusive preorders. Be it DNS or Citilink, would be real, but this is just a clickbait.
That's not kind of leading retailer with exclusive preorders. Be it DNS or Citilink, would be real, but this is just a clickbait.
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@typhon6657 : Sorry, but IPC of current intel's desktop chips and AMD's is practically equal. Some are higher on AMD's side, some workloads do better on intel's.
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