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AMD Ryzen 7000 Voltage Issues Persist for GIGABYTE and ASUS Motherboards Despite BIOS Updates
Both companies have introduced updated BIOS versions that set a maximum voltage configuration of 1.3v. However, neither has successfully kept the processor within this specified limit.
GIGABYTE and ASUS confront similar challenges regarding voltage limitations on AMD Ryzen 7000 processors, which may lead to CPU and motherboard burnoutIt's important to emphasize that the 1.3v limit is established by AMD to avert damage to their processors. Initially, it was assumed that only Ryzen 7000 X3Ds, featuring the 3D V-Cache memory chip, were impacted. However, further investigation revealed that Ryzen 7000 models without this extra memory were also affected.
Despite releasing new BIOS versions to tackle the voltage issue, both ASUS and GIGABYTE have failed to provide a satisfactory solution. ASUS faced considerable backlash, particularly for launching a Beta BIOS intended to address the problem. Complicating matters further, the company cautioned that installing a Beta BIOS might void the warranty. Following complaints, ASUS withdrew this warning, admitting the inconsistency of suggesting a remedy that results in warranty loss without effectively solving the problem.
A recent assessment by Hardware Busters shows that ASUS is not the only company falling short in providing an adequate solution. GIGABYTE X670E AORUS Master motherboards experience the same problem. When using memory with AMD EXPO technology enabled, the motherboard delivers voltages surpassing the 1.3v limit, posing a risk of temperature-related issues and potential damage to the CPU.
Tests on this specific motherboard revealed a safe voltage of 1.04v when EXPO technology was disabled. However, enabling this technology led to problems, with voltages climbing as high as 1.416v during stress tests like Prime95 using the older F7 BIOS. Even with the updated F10D BIOS, promoted as a solution to the Ryzen 7000 voltage limitation, the safe 1.3v threshold was still exceeded, reaching 1.361v. As a result, the usefulness of BIOS updates as fixes for the Ryzen 7000 voltage issue remains dubious.
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#6132406 Posted on: 05/16/2023 09:47 AM
Sounds like both companies use the same vendor for their voltage regulators and accompanying control software. Maybe that software contains a bug where it will accidentally set a much higher voltage that requested, leading to this issue.
Still you would expect the teams that builds the UEFI BIOSses at both companies to check what the actual voltage being set is and not rely on vendor supplied information. Guess we'll see new BIOS versions soon from both parties.
BTW: Other motherboard vendors might have similar issues, they just haven't been found out yet.
Most likely they use the same method of "increasing performance" by auto overclocking the CPU and they royally fucked up the voltage.
Sounds like both companies use the same vendor for their voltage regulators and accompanying control software. Maybe that software contains a bug where it will accidentally set a much higher voltage that requested, leading to this issue.
Still you would expect the teams that builds the UEFI BIOSses at both companies to check what the actual voltage being set is and not rely on vendor supplied information. Guess we'll see new BIOS versions soon from both parties.
BTW: Other motherboard vendors might have similar issues, they just haven't been found out yet.
Most likely they use the same method of "increasing performance" by auto overclocking the CPU and they royally fucked up the voltage.
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#6132408 Posted on: 05/16/2023 09:50 AM
lol, that's why prefer buying fixed hw late at discounts anyway than beta test early samples at extortionist prices.
lol, that's why prefer buying fixed hw late at discounts anyway than beta test early samples at extortionist prices.
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#6132412 Posted on: 05/16/2023 09:55 AM
Haven't CPUs had dynamic frequencies since the turn of the century? That would have been coupled with dynamic voltage regulation. Seems like too old and established technology for it to suddenly have weird and hard to solve problems now in the 20's.
Haven't CPUs had dynamic frequencies since the turn of the century? That would have been coupled with dynamic voltage regulation. Seems like too old and established technology for it to suddenly have weird and hard to solve problems now in the 20's.
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#6132413 Posted on: 05/16/2023 09:56 AM
that's not vcore but memory controller voltage what's causing the damage. asus prove again they're a premium brand name at premium prices but the quality control is worse than budget msi.
Most likely they use the same method of "increasing performance" by auto overclocking the CPU and they royally ****** up the voltage.
that's not vcore but memory controller voltage what's causing the damage. asus prove again they're a premium brand name at premium prices but the quality control is worse than budget msi.
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Sounds like both companies use the same vendor for their voltage regulators and accompanying control software. Maybe that software contains a bug where it will accidentally set a much higher voltage that requested, leading to this issue.
Still you would expect the teams that builds the UEFI BIOSses at both companies to check what the actual voltage being set is and not rely on vendor supplied information. Guess we'll see new BIOS versions soon from both parties.
BTW: Other motherboard vendors might have similar issues, they just haven't been found out yet.