AMD Ryzen 7000 processor announcements (preview)

#6048030 Posted on: 09/05/2022 10:50 AM

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Well I do agree with you generally speaking, I just think that they're not that niche anymore.
It's not restricted to a few native design software anymore, that's what it was 6+ years ago and ironically they were running Intel CPUs back then. The niche segment changed a lot lately even for the home user when microsoft made almost their entire software to run on mac.
For example I know a few companies myself where every dept runs on macbooks, from the digital/creative dept to dev and even marketing/administration.
Imo the only big gap between windows and mac for end user is gaming.

I'm comparing them because they recently changed from the x86 chips for the reason we fail to admit today, more efficiency and less waste.
And I particularly don't like the way x86 is going, compensating performance with 2% power consumption per less than 1% gain and more cost to produce.
For example, my mbpro M1 pro runs wow shadowlands in 4k at 80fps @ 35W (entire system/wall), my 9900k/3070 system in same exact scenario at 80 fps draws about 280W. Monitor not included but worth a mention that the mac still has a 16" screen in that power consumption and it's virtually a keyboard and a screen, not a huge heavy box (did I mention it also has a battery?).

I still enjoy the pc because it's customizable but frankly when using both systems I can see a big gap in tech advance, the pc is like a dinosaur that keeps getting bigger, heavier and more power hungry, not to mention costs a lot lately.


Tbh you could do SoC big as Apples on an X86 have it be roughly as performant at roughly the same wattage.

Apple is utilizing really wide and big package for their whole thing. That is the main reason they went solo, they can control everything.

AMD and Intel cannot just start selling SoC's to everyone it doesn't really work that well.

The custom ones AMD made for xbox series x and ps5 using quite old tech at this point on 7nm use from 50-150watts in gaming. With 5nm it would be even better.

Anyway point being Apple does things really differently and they gain from that. M1 the most basic one has 16 billion transistors. Whilst Pro had 33 billion and ultra 57 billion. Now if we compare to just Navi 21 its 26.8 billion whilst the cpus Intel and AMD produce are relatively low in transistors compared. One CCD having 4 billion.

Anyway having that wide design is an advantage for them. Allows them run more instructions per cycle

#6048215 Posted on: 09/06/2022 04:28 AM

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I will need a lot of convincing or beer to upgrade my system at this point lol.
This is Forza5 native 4k high/ultra settings on 9900k 4.8GHz / 6900xt 2.3GHz.
Cpu is still not a bottleneck there.

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Honest question since i am unfamiliar with the game, though have looked up other peoples benchmarks and it just is making me wonder, is it not?

That CPU render is all over the place, the simulation isn't which i don't know the difference, like i said i dunno the game or the benchmark, but it's the only screenshot i've seen with the CPU render all over the place like that

And looking at it further, the GPU Limited percentage should be near 100% to indicate no CPU bottleneck from what i've been able to look up that percentage to mean (seems backwards to me, but every benchmark i've seen shows that to be true, the worse the CPU, the lower the GPU limited percentage is)

Everything that i can find shows your CPU is bottlenecking forza horizon 5, unless all the information i can find is just wrong, again, not familiar with the benchmark or the game. Though it does not appear to be a "massive" bottleneck.