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AMD is working hard on their RENOIR series APU. The Ryzen 7 4700G already has been caught on camera. The source from Videocardz mentions the product is a final one, and is pending release in stores soon.
The Ryzen 7 4700G is an AMD Renoir processor based on Zen2 cores, however, has embedded graphics. It is rumored that GPU shader core cluster count is 8 Compute Units, multiply that by 64 shader processors per cluster and you'll see 512 Shader processors. This "Renoir" based product shares design elements of Vega, but would hold the display- and multimedia core logic of Navi. The CPU would feature 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 8 MB of shared L3 cache (4 MB per CCX). The chip will likely have a 65 Watt TDP.
An interesting spot for sure. However, I am inclined to say that the 4-core parts need an IGP to save on build cost, with more expensive 8-core products people would buy a dedicated graphics card anyway.
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#5789271 Posted on: 05/16/2020 02:05 PM
Leaving out the additional 16MB L3 cache from Zen2 saves what, half a billion transistors? A billion? More room for the iGPU...
Don't underestimate AMD APU's...there's still demand for running five to ten 4K Youtube videos all at once, not to mention maxing out Crysis at 1080p without the stock cooler even spinning up.
Eight cores might just be magical...
Leaving out the additional 16MB L3 cache from Zen2 saves what, half a billion transistors? A billion? More room for the iGPU...
Don't underestimate AMD APU's...there's still demand for running five to ten 4K Youtube videos all at once, not to mention maxing out Crysis at 1080p without the stock cooler even spinning up.
Eight cores might just be magical...
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#5789461 Posted on: 05/17/2020 02:49 PM
Don't underestimate AMD APU's...there's still demand for running five to ten 4K Youtube videos all at once
This is not going to happen without dropping actual video playback in background.
Due to amazing AMD drivers, sometimes APUs will not play even 1080p without stutters... Intel iGPUs are simply better in this use-case.
Don't underestimate AMD APU's...there's still demand for running five to ten 4K Youtube videos all at once
This is not going to happen without dropping actual video playback in background.
Due to amazing AMD drivers, sometimes APUs will not play even 1080p without stutters... Intel iGPUs are simply better in this use-case.
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#5789648 Posted on: 05/18/2020 02:47 PM
This seems like a slightly cut down 3700x with a integrated GPU.
Comparing to current G line, that could be a 200$-ish part, which seems like insanely good value even without the GPU, which would be a nice bonus.
I'd say it's kinda unbelievable, but if true, then Intel will have a really hard time selling even their 10th gen i5s.
So it is ok to lie as long as the other doesn't realize it?!
And actually they are selling technology specs (if I get what you mean), we are talking about tech here. What if for example someone has a R3 2400G and sometimes codes in H265, doesn't have the money for more cores but can sell his old R3 and buy for little money a R3400G from the generation that encodes H265 way faster just to have some bump in speed without spending money he doesn't have...well, surprise...
Now, what exactly is advertised for each product I don't know, but that's not the problem. The problem is that someone will hear "Ryzen 3000 series improved in this and that" in a general review, when he finds the time to have a general idea, not the more detailed info we like to get. Why should he know or presuppose that the n gen Ryzen with the G at the end are not actually from the n generation but the previous one, especially if that's a stupid thing to do?
I totally agree with this point, the naming scheme for the G line is completely absurd. The consumer base that can actually tell the difference between them is probably 0,01% of the people buying pcs.
This seems like a slightly cut down 3700x with a integrated GPU.
Comparing to current G line, that could be a 200$-ish part, which seems like insanely good value even without the GPU, which would be a nice bonus.
I'd say it's kinda unbelievable, but if true, then Intel will have a really hard time selling even their 10th gen i5s.
So it is ok to lie as long as the other doesn't realize it?!
And actually they are selling technology specs (if I get what you mean), we are talking about tech here. What if for example someone has a R3 2400G and sometimes codes in H265, doesn't have the money for more cores but can sell his old R3 and buy for little money a R3400G from the generation that encodes H265 way faster just to have some bump in speed without spending money he doesn't have...well, surprise...
Now, what exactly is advertised for each product I don't know, but that's not the problem. The problem is that someone will hear "Ryzen 3000 series improved in this and that" in a general review, when he finds the time to have a general idea, not the more detailed info we like to get. Why should he know or presuppose that the n gen Ryzen with the G at the end are not actually from the n generation but the previous one, especially if that's a stupid thing to do?
I totally agree with this point, the naming scheme for the G line is completely absurd. The consumer base that can actually tell the difference between them is probably 0,01% of the people buying pcs.
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#5789694 Posted on: 05/18/2020 06:35 PM
When this is released I'll finally replace my tired Intel X99 HEDT 6-core server with a faster, less power consuming, and integrated GPU 8-core AMD.
Hopefully it will work on X370 mobo... and not need X570 or some ridiculous shiet like that
I replaced my X58 dual xeon setup with a 1920x TR setup. Was only $475 for everything!!!! Worth every penny.
I was gonna do a cheap 1800x and b450 board but i couldn't pay the deal up.
1920x
X399 Taichi
32gb LPX 3000
Deepcool 240 all
Gtx 780
all for $475
I kinda wanna get this apu for a mini its build htpc that i also can take with me to game on at friends houses.
Drop a RX 5500xt in it when i take it with me. Use the apu igp when movie watching.
When this is released I'll finally replace my tired Intel X99 HEDT 6-core server with a faster, less power consuming, and integrated GPU 8-core AMD.
Hopefully it will work on X370 mobo... and not need X570 or some ridiculous shiet like that
I replaced my X58 dual xeon setup with a 1920x TR setup. Was only $475 for everything!!!! Worth every penny.
I was gonna do a cheap 1800x and b450 board but i couldn't pay the deal up.
1920x
X399 Taichi
32gb LPX 3000
Deepcool 240 all
Gtx 780
all for $475
I kinda wanna get this apu for a mini its build htpc that i also can take with me to game on at friends houses.
Drop a RX 5500xt in it when i take it with me. Use the apu igp when movie watching.
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guys we dont really know the full naming scheme yet, so for all we know amd could shift the entire stack up a tier, ie the gpuless chips (zen3) move up to ryzen 9 and all of the other parts move to renoir. which may make sense given the general lack of competition.
This could also just be an oem chip for things like dell optiplex prebuilt machines as well.